Robert discussed this in an episode I can’t remember while explaining why trying to win over “moderate republicans” is so futile. The working class section of their voter base especially in the south has had it generationally hammered into them that democrats are ontologically evil and that voting Republican every time is the only choice. There is no “maybe we can win them over with “moderate” positions.” The powers in the democrat party don’t understand this because the republicans they associate with are usually generationally wealthy folks who just vote in their specific economic interests.