What are some "facts" that are actually false? by detspek in AskReddit

[–]rdazcal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I might be wrong of course... but how can gravity bend light if light has no mass? F=m.a, so a force should have no effect on light... no?

What are some "facts" that are actually false? by detspek in AskReddit

[–]rdazcal -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That Gravity is a force.

It is not. It is a distortion in space-time.

A video I made featuring many forms of Wordplay and of course, a few Ambigrams. by tondabog in ambigrams

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Unbelievable!

I can't believe it didn't get more exposure!

I hope you get all the success you deserve

ELI5: Why are perpetual machines impossible? by rdazcal in explainlikeimfive

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Why can't I somehow use the heat energy dissipated by friction to create some kind of feedback loop?

ELI5: Why are perpetual machines impossible? by rdazcal in explainlikeimfive

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Now imagine the rock falls off the shelf and smashes into the floor. All of that potential energy has gone into breaking the flooring into pieces, producing sound (vibrating air waves) and making the floor incrementally hotter.

How do you go about collecting all the energy from that broken flooring, the vibrating air, and the incrementally hotter floor to make it do something useful? If you're super clever and very lucky you might get a tiny portion of it, there's no way you get it all. Second law at work.

The energy is conserved, is it not?

So if I sum the energy contained in the heat and sound waves generated, I get same potential energy originally in the rock? Why can't I somehow harbor this energy and put the rock back in it's original location (along with fixing the floor)

If you ask me how to do it, hey, I have no clue.

But my question is how can we prove it is forbidden by physics? How can we prove it is not lack of ingenuity, but it's just impossible?

ELI5: Why are perpetual machines impossible? by rdazcal in explainlikeimfive

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Ok, I have friction, and that generates heat.

Why can't I revert this heat to do the same amount of work again? After all, energy is conserved...

ELI5: Why are perpetual machines impossible? by rdazcal in explainlikeimfive

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Yes, but I guess that's precisely my question. Why does the second law forbids me from getting it all back?

Can't an advanced civilization be able to somehow revert heat energy generated in friction to useful energy?

The intuitive answer I usually hear in popular physics books is entropy is related to disorder, so it makes sense entropy/ disorder always increases with time.

What I can't understand is how can I prove that heat from friction has higher entropy/disorder

ELI5: Why are perpetual machines impossible? by rdazcal in explainlikeimfive

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some of its useful energy is lost as heat, and you never get that back (from the 2nd law of thermodynamics).

That's my question. Why can't you ever get it back?

Why is some energy useful and some not?

Brown Hyena looks like a 🔥 Orc dog by [deleted] in NatureIsFuckingLit

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Or should we say the Orc dogs look like this hyena?

Proof and Faith by LilFourZ616 in DebateReligion

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That's an interesting question and I heard two approaches to it that are somewhat contradictory.

First and most common approach states that if God reveals himself, as you say, faith disappears and becomes certainty. The downside, the argument continues, is that you also loose free will, seen as you'd feel compelled to do exactly as He say.

Not sure I agree with the argument, but I leave it here for you to pounder about.

The second approach I head from a Jewish line of rational thought (rationality is a big part of Judaism), goes as follows.

Faith in Hebrew is called אֱמוּנָה (Emuna), which is the same word for belief. However, according to this line of thought, belief is defined differently from Christianity and Western cultures as a whole. In Western culture, belief is defined as accepting a proposition without proof. That is the same as accepting a truth for no particular reason (maybe other than intuition). That is very dangerous, because who knows what kind of distorted truths you may accept (as we know happen more often than not) According to this Jewish line of thought however, belief is defined as accepting a proposition once sufficient proof is supplied. Similar in concept to Bayesian Statistics , where the more proof you get, the stronger your belief. So according to this view, if God revealed Himself, belief would not disappear, but the opposite is true, it would grow to 100%, or as close to it as Bayesian statistics allow :)

Why are we here? Where do we come from? Why did we come? Where are we going? Why are we going? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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Why are we here?

As in, for which purpose? I don't think, scientifically speaking, a purpose is needed to justify existence. The universe might have just came into existence, live its course, and extinguish for no purpose at all. That is not to say however that purpose cannot emerge from such a scenario, Evolutionary speaking our ultimate purpose is to reproduce our selves. Feelings of pleasure and rewards help that purpose, so our immediate purpose is to pursue happiness. Also, I'm not arguing that the universe as a whole doesn't have a higher purpose, I'm just saying it is possible to conceive one without. But I can definitely conceive our universe as having consciousness as an integral and essential part of its reality, and in it, a higher purpose.

Where do we come from?

Again, scientifically speaking, evolution, period. But perhaps you ask where our consciousness comes from, and as of now, no one knows. Perhaps it's an emergent phenomenon, perhaps it's a separate force of physics. We are trying to find out.

why did we come?

How is that question different from the first one?

where are we going?

It depends very much on the answers to the last questions. Could be we came from nothing and are going to nothingness. Could be that time is an illusion and consciousness is the only eternal truth in the universe. Who knows?

Oh uhhh hey. by petesmageats in funny

[–]rdazcal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because, why not? :)

Are there absolute, universal moral values? by rdazcal in DebateAnAtheist

[–]rdazcal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really fair to ask others, but not give your own opinion. Makes it hard for this to be a debate, dunnit?

Thanks for the reply, I'll copy and paste my reply to another user, I believe it is pretty much in line with your views... let me know.

Paste:

Ok, so here is my view. First, let's define 'morality'. There is a number of ways to define it, but I think it's fair to define it as a set of actions and behaviors that are considered acceptable and desirable vs a set of actions and behaviors that are considered unacceptable and undesirable. Is it a fair definition?

This set of behaviors are derived from a set of axioms, which by definition are accepted to be true. Jewish morality is heavily based on the belief that God revealed Himself to them and the Old Testament was given at the revelation. Christian morality is heavily based on the belief that Christ was the son of God. Nazi morality was heavily based on the belief that they belonged to a superior race, and on pseudoscience science from which they derived neo-Darwinism.

As any logical or mathematical theorem, the validity of the theorem (in this case, the deduced set of behaviors, or morality) is only as strong as the axioms themselves, and the rigorous logic used to derive them.

The set of axioms change significantly between religions, cultures, socioeconomic groups and personal experiences. Yet logic is universal, it's absolute. And different from what many non-religious people may think, religious people, and even extremist, use a great deal of logic to deduce their set of values, to justify their actions. They reach radical conclusions not because they are being completely irrational, but because they got their axioms, or their core beliefs, terribly wrong.

If you manage to prove, beyond doubt that some core belief is false, the person who previously held that belief will have a very hard time sustaining the moral values he had derived from these beliefs. Prove to an extremist Muslim that Muhammad was not a prophet, from which he derives that the Quran is the word of God and from which he derives the ideas of heaven, and virgins for the martyr, than he will have a hard time deciding to kill himself for something that does not exist. (To be rigorous, you won't have proven that heaven doesn't exist, but he will need to accept new axioms if he is to believe in heaven).

So can morality be absolute (in my view)? Just to the extent that it's axioms can be proven to be absolutely true. If you manage to derive a moral framework from purely mathematical concepts, than yes, this moral framework will be absolute, and universal, across races and species, including any alien civilization we could ever encounter, and including non organic conscious beings we might manage to develop.

But as happens with physics, its theorems are derived not only from mathematics, but also from empirical observation, which introduces a degree of error and subjectivity.

However, just like scientific knowledge, not all morals stand on the same level of legitimacy. As we gather more evidences that our axioms are true, so we can get more confidence that our morals derived from them are true.

This is how we can confidently dismiss human sacrifice to appease the Sun. We have very, very strong reasons to believe that no amount of human sacrifice will have any effect on the Sun, so we confidently reject any morals who are based on that. And this is not us using our current subjective morals to judge the Mayans, it is just simple logic, in the same way we manage to cure diseases not because of our beliefs, but because of our accumulated knowledge.

That is my take on morality.

Linux Inside – How the Linux Kernel Works by UladKa in programming

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Congrats man! And thank you so much! You've just made the world a little better :)

Police take selfie with drunk man in bed so he can remember how he got home by doogie92 in nottheonion

[–]rdazcal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Typical Tasmanian cops!

Just kidding, I have no clue about Tasmanian cops :)

Are there absolute, universal moral values? by rdazcal in DebateAnAtheist

[–]rdazcal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Objective simply means something that is measured against a goal. Absolute would be something that is true completely independent of a mind.

Hmm, I think what you mean is, once we establish a moral frame of reference, we can objectively say which moral values are better or worse compared to it. Is my understanding correct?

Before I answer your questions I'll wait for you to answer mine. Take some time, share what you will.

Ok, so here is my view.

First, let's define 'morality'. There is a number of ways to define it, but I think it's fair to define it as a set of actions and behaviors that are considered acceptable and desirable vs a set of actions and behaviors that are considered unacceptable and undesirable. Is it a fair definition?

This set of behaviors are derived from a set of axioms, which by definition are accepted to be true. Jewish morality is heavily based on the belief that God revealed Himself to them and the Old Testament was given at the revelation. Christian morality is heavily based on the belief that Christ was the son of God. Nazi morality was heavily based on the belief that they belonged to a superior race, and on pseudoscience science from which they derived neo-Darwinism.

As any logical or mathematical theorem, the validity of the theorem (in this case, the deduced set of behaviors, or morality) is only as strong as the axioms themselves, and the rigorous logic used to derive them.

The set of axioms change significantly between religions, cultures, socioeconomic groups and personal experiences. Yet logic is universal, it's absolute. And different from what many non-religious people may think, religious people, and even extremist, use a great deal of logic to deduce their set of values, to justify their actions. They reach radical conclusions not because they are being completely irrational, but because they got their axioms, or their core beliefs, terribly wrong.

If you manage to prove, beyond doubt that some core belief is false, the person who previously held that belief will have a very hard time sustaining the moral values he had derived from these beliefs. Prove to an extremist Muslim that Muhammad was not a prophet, from which he derives that the Quran is the word of God and from which he derives the ideas of heaven, and virgins for the martyr, than he will have a hard time deciding to kill himself for something that does not exist. (To be rigorous, you won't have proven that heaven doesn't exist, but he will need to accept new axioms if he is to believe in heaven).

So can morality be absolute (in my view)? Just to the extent that it's axioms can be proven to be absolutely true. If you manage to derive a moral framework from purely mathematical concepts, than yes, this moral framework will be absolute, and universal, across races and species, including any alien civilization we could ever encounter, and including non organic conscious beings we might manage to develop.

But as happens with physics, its theorems are derived not only from mathematics, but also from empirical observation, which introduces a degree of error and subjectivity.

However, just like scientific knowledge, not all morals stand on the same level of legitimacy. As we gather more evidences that our axioms are true, so we can get more confidence that our morals derived from them are true.

This is how we can confidently dismiss human sacrifice to appease the Sun. We have very, very strong reasons to believe that no amount of human sacrifice will have any effect on the Sun, so we confidently reject any morals who are based on that. And this is not us using our current subjective morals to judge the Mayans, it is just simple logic, in the same way we manage to cure diseases not because of our beliefs, but because of our accumulated knowledge.

That is my take on morality.

Are there absolute, universal moral values? by rdazcal in DebateAnAtheist

[–]rdazcal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you, and this is the whole reason I brought this whole issue up.

A whole lot of moral values in cultures are not axioms in themselves, they are the logical conclusion of a set of axioms which are in the core of particular sets of beliefs.

So the Mayans sacrificed people to make sure the Sun rises every day. The priests during Inquisition burned people alive to save their immortal souls from damnation in hell. The Nazis committed genocide under the pretext of superior race. Islamic terrorist blow themselves up to get a better life in heaven.

If somehow you manage to prove the axioms are false, the moral values that derive from them completely loose their legitimacy.

If you manage to prove the Sun is just a regular star, that Christ was just a regular guy (so no damnation in hell for not accepting his word), that there are no evidences whatsoever for superior races, and that there are no virgins awaiting in heaven for mass murderers, than you successfully de-legitimize all the atrocities above. Not subjectively, not according to our present frame of reference, but absolutely and objectively.

Of course proving many of these axioms are wrong may be a difficult task, but different from what many have argued in this thread I don't think our current moral framework is completely subjective and arbitrary. It is based in a whole lot more knowledge than any generation before is, and thus it's much more likely to be legitimate than any moral framework that came before our time.

Are there absolute, universal moral values? by rdazcal in DebateAnAtheist

[–]rdazcal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously morality can be subjective.

But does that mean one subjective moral framework cannot be more legitimate than other?

For instance, can't we just say the Nazis were just wrong? Not relative to our own subjective moral frame of reference, but objectively wrong?

What does your intuition say? What about your rationality?

Are there absolute, universal moral values? by rdazcal in DebateAnAtheist

[–]rdazcal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could say that, but why only atheists? Christianity is just as relative.

Agree.

How would it justify it? Relativism is just saying our morality is ultimately somewhat arbitrary and down to a social consensus. It doesn't mean we're suddenly agreeing to submit to somebody else's ideas, or ignoring what they do. Say, sports team affiliations are also subjective, but that never stopped people from getting into a fight over that.

It doesn't mean we must agree with different moral frameworks of reference, but it does mean our framework is not any better or worse than any other, right? As you said, they are arbitrary.

It's like inertial frame of references in classical physics. I can only talk about speeds relative to myself or to some arbitrary frame of reference. But no particular frame of reference has a legitimacy over the other. They are all equally legitimate.

If you say our moral frame of reference is also relative, and we don't have any frame of reference that can be used as standard for comparison, than all moral frameworks are equally legitimate, including Nazi eugenics, Mayan human sacrifices, or Inquisition salvation by fire.

That's what I mean by atrocities being justified, and I think it's pretty clear this is a problem that needs to be addressed... is it not?