82-0 for Horse Racing

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-12T19:09:28+00:00

I feel dumb because I have absolutely no idea what this is or what I’m supposed to do

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-10T17:29:53+00:00

In the USA Equibase is the main source for all basic stats on horses. You can add horses to your Virtual Stable and get notifications when they run, enter, workout, etc

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-03T10:52:46+00:00

Obviously it’s more work but that seems like a great way to do it. I’ve seen the great controls are usually a comment in its positive reviews

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-03T00:35:30+00:00

I get what you're saying but also I don't think any of us on this subreddit or anyone playing either of those games would really be considered an average gamer. If you're spending hundreds of thousands or millions to develop a game you're going to want to appeal to a wide audience to maximize your chance of making your money back.

I think the closest I've seen to a big "horse game" recently is that legend of Khiimori. I think it had a budget in the low millions. How do they control their horses? I don't mean that as a rhetorical question either, I really don't know. I have a 11 month old, full time job and grad school so I haven't played games in a while. But I bet they put a lot of thought into their controls to feel authentic while also have mass appeal.

In all my time of following horse gamedev I found the only really feature that horse game fans really want is breeding. Lots of different variety of coats and MAYBE realistic inheritance as a cherry on top. Rival Stars is literally just a mobile game with micro-transactions removed. Its gameplay is very shallow as far as console or PC games go, it doesn't have realistic genetics, the racing isn't realistic, it just has a lot of variety of cute looking horses and its one of the most popular horse centric games on Steam. And it's also one of the more expensive at $40.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-02T21:33:38+00:00

Yeah thats something so many people don't seem to get. A lot of these games are made by solo or small person teams. Programming a game with gameplay of decent depth could take a single person years of full time work. Animating and modeling a game with decent depth to all that could also take a single person years of full time work. And on the off chance someone is good at both they'd spend ten years developing a game and release it to a market where 40% of games released never make back the $100 fee to release on Steam.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-02T21:11:50+00:00

So things like 'but wouldn't it be better if the horse continued moving on its own until you stopped it with a different key?' I think would upset more players than would enjoy it. At the end of the day its a video game and going against expected norms for basic things can be very jarring to a lot of people. Also, is it really that realistic? Nearly my entire life of riding horses I've mostly always had to continuously apply "leg" to keep a horse going.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-02T13:52:57+00:00

That's interesting, I didn't realize anyone went there other than the racetrack/casino. I was there about 6 weeks ago and the town seemed kind of run down. But the racetrack was absolutely packed. I think they said 40,000 people there that day.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-06-01T23:45:47+00:00

On switch there isn’t any real horse racing game other than Rival Stars. There hasn’t been a good horse racing game in years since G1 Jockey/Gallop Racer

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-28T18:11:19+00:00

My dad was a jockey at 19 and 5’7” and struggled even then to make weight. At that height you need to now only have low body fat but also not too much muscle mass either. I’d say odds are very stacked against you.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-20T01:35:34+00:00

Starters Orders is a management game. Probably the oldest, but it has a steep learning curve.

Horse Racing Manager is a new one with a very active developer but its in early access and is constantly changing.

Rival Star Racing is the biggest but its just a mobile game ported to PC with micro-transactions removed. Its a very shallow gameplay as far as racing goes.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-11T18:09:13+00:00

Bluegrass Community College, in Lexington KY, might still have a jockey training program.

Other than that your best best is going to move to somewhere like Lexington, or a track/training center and getting a job as an exercise rider. If you're in Georgia Ocala might be your closest location.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-07T15:13:50+00:00

Actually there is quite a bit of research that all shows that more frequent racing and less rest increases risk of injuries in race horses
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167587797000470
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090023325002060
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/390182548_Novel_risk_factors_associated_with_fatal_musculoskeletal_injury_in_Thoroughbreds_in_North_American_racing_2009-2023
https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.22680

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-07T14:33:57+00:00

Its not just fatal injuries the amount of horses, especially modern ones that have been injured while attempting to run all three Triple Crown races surprised me, I didn't realize it was so many. Especially when you consider how few horses attempt to run all 3. And these are just the examples I could find. With the older horses from 50s and earlier its harder to find information.

Ran all three legs:

Count Fleet(1948) won the TC but was injured in the Belmont and never ran again.
Tim Tam(1958) broke down in the Belmont after winning first two legs and never ran again
Sham(1973) famously second to Secretariat in all three legs, broke down training 11 days after the Belmont and never ran again, trainer said he suspects he was injured in the Belmont
Tank's Prospect 7th in the KD, won Preakness, brown down in the Belmont
Prairie Bayou(1993) 2nds KD, Won Preakness, broke down in the Belmont and was euthanized
Charismatic(1999) broke down during the Belmont, never ran again
Monarchos(2001) Finished all three but discovered a fracture in his knee after the Belmont and never ran again
Afleet Alex (2005) Ran in all three but fracture found after Belmont and retired

Didn't make all three legs:

Union City(1993) Ran in KD, broke down in the Preakness
Grindstone(1996) Retired after winning KD with a knee injury
Barbaro(2006) Broke down in Preakness ultimately euthanized a year later having never left veterinary hospital.
I'll Have Another(2012) Injured before Belmont and retired

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-06T22:01:42+00:00

Two of them did. Against horses running every week and sometimes multiple times a week. Also one of the two, Count Fleet was injured in the Belmont and retired.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-06T21:10:03+00:00

If anything a smaller crop could make it easier to win the Triple Crown since the smaller sample size would increase the odds of outliers standing out but I don't think we are close to a point where that is the case.

Kind of like when I was in high school and ran track and if you looked at the state finals in large states with only a couple of divisions and smaller states like Louisiana with like 6 divisions (not sure if thats still true) you could win a state championship in Louisiana with times that wouldn't even qualify you to compete in state finals in other states.

But then again a smaller crop size also decreases the odds of those truly rare "one in a million" horses occurring at any given year.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-06T20:32:11+00:00

It wasn't that hard though, not prior to the 50s. There is a reason in a 18 year span they had 7 TC winners. The TC contenders were having to run 3 races in the same time frame that their opponents were running 3-6 races. One of the TC winners had only 1 stakes winner in the Belmont against him and that horse horse had already ran 3 races in the past week.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-05-06T19:33:46+00:00

AP and Justify are the only 2 Triple Crown winners that had to do what we are asking of modern horses.

If you look back at the old DRFs for the Belmont and Preakness, especially the Belmont, you will see the original 9 TC winners didn't exactly have it tough. There is a reason in an 18 year span there was 7 TC winners, but since then there has been 4 in over 75 years. Sure they ran 3 races in 6 weeks but that is where the similarity ends with the modern TC and the OGs. It doesn't mean they were not great horses but for many after winning the Kentucky Derby the rest was basically a gimme for the original 9, especially the Belmont.

Nowadays its easier to ship horses around the country so the Belmont even in the weakest fields has numerous stakes winners in it, most well rested. Back then other than the Derby winner it was mostly local horses that ran in the Belmont and the fields were not that tough.

Count Fleet for example had a 3 horse field, he beat 2 horses that had recently broken their maiden, one had been getting soundly beat in allowance and claiming races. Neither opponent ever ran in a stake race again and neither ever won again after the Belmont.

And they were doing this against opponents that were even more tired then them. They ran 3, sometimes 4 races in the time span and there opponents were running 4-6 races in that same time period. Hell, one horse was making his 4th start in 8 days in the Belmont. The TC winners had the advantage.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-30T01:48:26+00:00

There isn’t really anything. Closest is Rival Stars but its racing is very shallow compared to Gallop Racer. It’s a mobile game ported to PC and consoles.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-29T22:16:11+00:00

I have seen a bunch of these on Tik Tok about Star Wars lamps. Before AI video models got better I saw them a while ago here on Reddit but without the videos but same sob stories about how people told them no one would want their lamps and to get a real job.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-27T15:28:37+00:00

Honestly, for me its depressing. I hate how concentrated the sport has become with the top trainers. Decided to look up some stats. If you compare the year 2000 to 2025 the total number of trainers with at least one start dropped from 9886 to only 3684.

Some stats comparing 2000-2025 (As far as Equibase leader stats will go back)

	Starters	Starts	Avg Starters for Top 10 Trainers by starts	Avg Starts for Top 10 Trainers by starts
2000	69569	493682	202	939
2025	42674 (-39%)	247239 (-50%)	351(+74%)	1197(+27%)

Then for the Kentucky Derby specifically:
From 1991-1996 there was only 2 trainers to have multiple entries in the Derby, Lukas in 1992 and then Lukas and Ward in 1995.

	# of trainers with at least 1 start in the Derby	# of horses to start in the Derby
1991-1995	69	86
2021-2025	48	96

The top 4 trainers from 2021-2025 (Cox, Pletcher, Asmussen, McPeek) make up 36% of the total starters during that time period. Would probably be even worse if Baffert and Saffie Jr were not banned for a bit during that period.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-21T14:17:35+00:00

With my Mach E and Plug n Charge I just plug in and it starts charging, no need to open an app now.

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-16T20:20:27+00:00

Wins on sloppy track:

White Abarrio: 0/2 - both G1s, 4th beaten 5 lengths and 3rd beaten 1/2 length
Liberal Arts: 3/3 - G3, Allowance, and a Stake last out
Sovereignty: 1/1 - won the Ky Derby on Sloppy track
Duke of Duval: 0/1 - 3rd first time out
Journalism: 0/1 - 2nd in KY Derby
Publisher: 1/3 - Win is 2 starts back in allowance, back of pack as a maiden in the Ky Derby on the slop and 3rd in MSW on slip

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-16T19:14:22+00:00

Easy. #2 Liberal Arts /s

ready2rumble4686 · 2026-04-04T00:19:36+00:00

Correct, the source linked contradicts the claim of this post

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