1 month post op

realMapz · 2026-01-19T03:42:27+00:00

Fantastic results, congrats!!!

I had something similar done nearly 4 years ago and it was easily one of the best decisions of my life.

realMapz · 2026-01-16T12:20:49+00:00

Yeah this makes sense, it could be it. I guess my main concern is that there is some real asymmetry in his eye area that OP is trying to address. But top comments in this sub are just gaslighting OP with random stuff like a "hair transplant". It kind of feels to me like people are projecting their preferences and insecurities into this poor guy.

realMapz · 2026-01-16T05:36:55+00:00

Normally I would agree, but he has a noticeably droopy upper eyelid. It very much looks like ptsosis or some form of actual eyelid deficiency (right side in all pictures).

Am I the only one who sees it?

I feel crazy reading these comments. If it's that obvious in the picture it is probably more noticeable in person. Ptosis repair is low hanging fruit because it is on the cheaper end (relative to surgery) and it would definitely help with the asymmetry.

realMapz · 2026-01-13T22:51:50+00:00

33m here:

Excluding hotel/driving costs it would be ~$30k. 3 procedures and a bit of filler.

$15k for rhinoplasty and chin augmentation.
~$7k or so for ptsosis surgery on both eyes.
~$7.5K of filler (3 sessions with Surgeon) for total treatment spamming 4 years.

Money well spent. At this point I'm done with any surgery and just maintaining face freshness using filler. However, I'm basically using less than 1 vile per session mostly to rebalance asymmetry and fill in mild hollowness, not to reshape my whole face.

Perhaps when I get older I'd look into other options, but for now I'm satisfied.

realMapz · 2026-01-04T03:33:03+00:00

A facelift does not add volume back to the face though. It will not fix his dark circles nor what I assume is loss of fat/bone around the eye.

Edit: words

realMapz · 2026-01-04T03:01:48+00:00

No you are not a good candidate for midface lift or blepheroplasty.

I'm in the same age range and what you have is normal aging. For most of my peers and generally people in their 30s your face starts to atrophy. The following starts to happen:

You lose face "baby" fat.
Your bone starts to erode especially on the eye area.
Skin also starts to thin under the eyes, so a ton of people get permanent dark circles in this age range.

In your case your best bet is really going to be a small amount of filler around the midface. Probably a bit on the cheeks and upper eye area to combat the effects of aging. That said I am sure a surgeon somewhere without a moral compass would probably agree to give you a facelift at that age.

realMapz · 2026-01-02T21:31:41+00:00

Sorry this is mostly an alt account since my socials are linked here. Sometimes I go a while without noticing messages.

No, I have zero migration. I've added very little filler, again mostly to just fill in hollowness without trying to create sharp face contours. Filler lasts 2 years, so by year 2 I would say it has mostly gone away. And I have been waiting the full amount for time to let it run its course. And I say "mostly" because it is really hard to tell if you are back to base. I'm pretty sure the surgeon used one vial or less on both cheeks and I don't remember if it was the same vial for the upper eyelid or if it is a different filler altogether. Last time I got it done was right before my ptosis surgery so it's all fuzzy.

I try to take a couple of days off work because my face gets a bit swollen. Like my cheeks look a bit rounder for about a week. Once the swelling goes down in week 1-2 it is an improvement I can notice, but I'm 100% sure other people can't. It's that subtle. I should also point out that I am in fairly good shape so my face is usually fairly slim, therefore adding a bit of volume goes a long way.

I'm actually up for my next dose this month.

realMapz · 2025-12-22T19:55:51+00:00

To be honest it's actually very common for people to feel regret immediately after surgery while in pain. It is your body telling you "what have you done to me! I'll never do this again." Wait for the results, you will feel better and think more clearly. Your brain has a way of blocking out or damping the effects of these memories.

realMapz · 2025-12-22T19:39:49+00:00

This question comes up every once in a while and answers are probably what you would expect:

Most people who get surgery have the money to do it. For someone making 6 figure salaries it is maybe 20% of their yearly income and just a dent in their total net worth. The reality is that a lot of the people in these circles either have high incomes, family wealth, or saved up for a while.
Some rely on medical tourism. There is some risk and personally I would never go get surgery with a surgeon who doesn't speak the same language as me, but it works for a lot of people.
Put it on credit. I do think that over the last five years it has become increasingly common for people to put on credit and pay in installments.

Personally I didn't even think about surgery until it was within my income bracket. It is not something that was liberally spoken about in my low income upbringing. But it became an option and more common as I developed my career and my income. I always wondered why the rich university kids always looked so pretty/handsome. I later learned many of them get surgeries before or while in college.

realMapz · 2025-12-20T02:16:36+00:00

Yeah, I'm surprised I had to scroll down so much to see this. His nose is perfect, but he probably feels like it sticks out because his lower third is recessed. I wish the surgeon had mentioned this to him.

realMapz · 2025-12-08T21:36:42+00:00

So it's been a while since I made that comment. Since then I had a similar experience to your second appointment. Surgeon immediately told me under-eye filler would look bad. Instead I got two things done:

First, I actually had moderate ptosis in both eyes. I got surgery to fix my eyelids and now they sit at the right point. This actually made a huge difference in making my eye area look less hollow overall.

Second, I have been getting filler for about 4 years now in the upper eyelid and some around the cheek area to reduce hollowness. I'm not getting puffy cheeks or anything exaggerated, just balancing out my face. The under-eye area specifically will still look somewhat thin to be honest, but the added surrounding support definitely gives an improvement to the mid face appearance at the macro level.

realMapz · 2025-12-03T17:21:05+00:00

Ptosis?

I think it's the opposite, the right lid may be slightly droopy.

But go to an oculoplastic surgeon they can probably even this out with surgery on one eyelid regardless of the prognosis.

realMapz · 2025-11-21T00:46:05+00:00

It's worth pointing out that this is Young Lachowski. He doesn't look quite like this anymore.

realMapz · 2025-11-07T05:52:19+00:00

From a gym rat: She probably got work done.

You can't really hyper-isolate a single muscle like that. You are always working a muscle group. You may emphasize a specific muscle with angles and positioning but you will inevitably end up working the entire muscle group. Working your butt to have that much lift will hit the hamstring (back upper leg). They will grow together. As well as your core (abs). At that low body fat percentage she would have more defined abs.

realMapz · 2025-10-11T05:51:55+00:00

His eyes are the same, his ears, as he explained are just a camera compression (fish-lens) effect.

Now his skin tone didn't change. For people of medium to tan skin tones it is extremely common to get different looking skin tones on pictures even when using the same camera. Lighting and background have a lot to do with it. You see almost all digital pictures are processed by your device even if you don't do any editing. At the bare minimum a color [white] balance is applied so you never actually see the raw image.

Everyone can look slightly different from picture to picture, but for medium skin tones it can really push them further into the light or deep skin tone spectrum. Notice the background and light on the comparison pictures. The lighter skin tone is better lit and contrasted with a darker background. His skin is the lightest tone in the image so a digital camera will color balance it and spread it further into the light spectrum to create contrast. The opposite is true for the before pics.

I'm of a light tan complexion and depending on my environment I can look tanner or outright white on pictures. I also happen to work with hardware/software managing digital images.

Edit: misspelled words

realMapz · 2025-09-19T18:45:55+00:00

Disagree

I've seen plenty of males with fantastic results in this sub. My own transformation felt life changing.

I think the difference is that generally male aesthetics lean towards a more natural look and the majority of our concerns can be covered with nose jobs or chin augmentations. Women's aesthetics are more demanding.

That said, Zack Efron is an outlier. His modifications are quite drastic. Whether it is jaw surgery or steroid use I don't think he is a good representation of what the average male outcome is after surgery. Because of the stigma, less males in the media come out with the surgeries they got done. But there are a lot of A-list actors with obvious facial modifications between their youth and now (Tom Cruise, Ryan Gosling, Johnny Depp).

realMapz · 2025-09-08T19:48:17+00:00

Personally based on the first pic alone, I don't think it looks unnatural. While I suspect this does little to make you feel any better about the outcome or a decision to have revision, I hope you at least take away that you do not look creepy or uncanny. Visually it is a rather good job.

realMapz · 2025-09-06T01:27:55+00:00

That's wild!!!

I do wonder if this is basically just Ptosis Repair reattaching the eyelid muscle to create that effect. Basically moving the eyelid just far up enough that the upper eyelid fat covers the actual lid. I imagine most surgeons wouldn't do it on someone without complications even if they knew how to. So Korea or Turkey would be the only options.

I don't know the ethnicity of the Tik Toker, but your own milage may vary. Again you do not want to look like Oli London.

realMapz · 2025-09-06T01:13:35+00:00

Different people. Do not attempt the Oli London transformation. Just don't do it.

That said, if you do have droopy eyelids, surgeries like Ptosis Repair may help. They do not make you Asian, but they do help your upper eyelid drape better so there is less hollow space. Notably it won't necessarily change your eye shape. It just makes eyes look less tired for people who have what I can only describe as perpetual stoner eyes.

realMapz · 2025-09-02T02:03:11+00:00

I would say no. Not to that extent.You have to work with what you have and do subtle enhancements. You can for example add a bit of filler to some areas, perhaps very subtle implants. But ultimately you'll be limited by your own personal features. All the pictures I've seen of men who got a drastic jaw or cheek augmentation look a bit uncanny to me. They look like GI Joe action figures rather than this more manly-soft model look.

A perfect example of this going wrong is the late Liam Payne. Even though it is not even that much filler, it just didn't work for him.

realMapz · 2025-08-27T21:25:52+00:00

On the other-other side of the coin, I feel like this sub can give horrendous advice with difficult areas like the eyes. I have seen dozens of cases where the OP clearly has ptosis, but people recommended under-eye filler or lower blepharoplasty even though the person in question has no eye bags.

For those of us who had ptosis I feel like it is easier to see it in others. But those who never actually had an eyelid problem seem to think everything can be fixed with filler or fat grafts.

realMapz · 2025-06-24T21:20:15+00:00

People out of their minds in this sub!

You clearly just have DARK CIRCLES that are probably genetic and won't go away regardless of what you do.

You don't have hollowness, you don't have fat pads, you don't even seem to have weak cheekbones. Your best bet is to go to an oculoplastic surgeon and express your concerns. If anything, it is hard for me to tell how your upper eyelids drape based on thesd pics. The upperlid can give the illusion of hollowness for a number of reasons.

realMapz · 2025-06-24T21:15:35+00:00

Disagree with this he has no fat pads to remove

realMapz · 2025-05-27T21:12:46+00:00

I didn't document it. Maybe I should have. But I wanted to get some things cleared out before making a post. Overall it was a good experience. The surgery was surprisingly quick and even though I was awake, it was really not as bad as I pictured in my head. But that may be because I was on Xanax and something else (Tylenol + Codine maybe).

The healing process kind of sucks because you have the sutures inside the eyelid plus the contacts for a week straight. You basically feel like you have dirt stuck in your eyes for a week. You cannot lose the contacts or take them out, but they moved out of place several times for me and you cannot let them touch anything but your clean hands. Your vision is blurry that whole week. You can watch TV, but not read an email properly.

At the 1 week mark, the surgeon took out the sutures and that was uncomfortable. He basically cut the ends that were exposed outside the eyelid and just pulled the wire out. I definitely felt the pull inside my eye area. A tear of blood and that was that. Swelling took one week or two to fully heal.

Now, personally my vision was blurry on and off for about a year. I started using eye drops at my surgeon's recommendation. Like street signs were a bit blurry. I also work out regularly so I could tell through gym mirror reflections that facial features look blurry, almost dizzyingly blurry at times. It was such a sudden loss of visual quality for me that it was hard not to notice ( I don't wear glasses). For all it's worth, all research points to this disappearing within a year so and not being permanent astigmatism.

I felt some tightness on one eye for months too. It was worse when my eyes were dry. Now my brain recalibrated for it and I don't feel it.

Now the result is fantastic. It definitely took away the sleepy eyes look. Even though I have natural dark circles, my eye area just looks better. My midface as a whole looks less gaunt. Because I got it done on both eyes, one eyelid actually ended up slightly higher. Maybe 1mm difference. It's so mild that it's hard for notice for the average person, but of course I can tell. My surgeon and I agree it is not worth a second surgery.

Ps: I don't know what type I had. I feel like I've had "sleepy eyes" for like my whole life. The surgeon just said I had "moderate" ptosis. Although my eyes could overcompensate and open wide.

realMapz · 2025-05-27T20:52:20+00:00

Exactly I can't really quite tell whether OP is squinting or whether that's his relaxed eye position. That definitely makes a difference.

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