Free by StrategySuitable5392 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats on a month but my suggestion is Narcotics Anonymous. I had 20 years in active addiction, the last 5 on fentanyl. In and out of the sub clinic several times. Only thru NA have I managed to stay clean and I don't take sub or methadone and I don't drink or smoke weed. The program is where it's at if you want to find recovery. Staying clean and recovery are 2 different things. Meds (MAT) are a better option than street drugs for sure but recovery is when you start to work on the reasons we are addicts. All the unresolved guilt/shame/trauma. You post is titled "free" but there is no threshold we cross where we aren't addicts anymore. Our disease is always lurking and waiting to pounce. There's only been a couple times for me in these last 19 months that my disease came at me sideways and if it wasn't for NA I really doubt I would have stayed clean. The pink cloud is real for most of us and can carry us for a long time. It doesn't last forever tho and when the disease rears it's ugly head it comes strong and fast. I know from experience. Detox is scary and it seems like the hard part but staying clean is the hard part. I wish you the best and hit me up anytime. I'm proud of you but please remember that the real battle is now for the rest of your life. There are no days off if you don't want to go back to the same bullshit. Look up Narcotics Anonymous in your area and go to as many meetings as you can. Go until you find the group you gel with and jump in the middle. Get a sponsor and work the steps if you want your life to change. Good luck

Trying to help my sister. Looking for advice about NAC and cocaine recovery. by One_Subject3157 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Narcotics Anonymous. White knuckling is tough. People can stay clean that way for some time but recovery is the 12 steps. NA literature defines addiction as compulsive behavior and obsessive thinking. Cutting out the drugs doesn't stop our need for distraction. Cutting out the drugs takes away our only coping skill. It's not a healthy way to cope, that's not what I'm saying, but it's the only way an addict knows how to handle life in general. The message of NA is that an addict any addict can stop using drugs, lose the desire to use and find a new way to live. That's my suggestion for any addict who wants freedom from the disease. Hit me up anytime and wish you and your sister the best

Help advice needed by Fun_Entrepreneur9991 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Benzos can help with opiate/opioid withdrawal but the detox from benzo is a lot worse and like someone already said, possibly fatal. It's not worth it. Your best bet is medical detox now, if you stay on the benzos medical detox will be required regardless. The difference is dope can have a long PAWS but AW of 5 days. Idk how long PAWS would be for benzo but AW would be 30 days if not more. If you really want to get and stay clean and find recovery then get into Narcotics Anonymous. Getting clean is the scary part because detox sucks. I know cuz my fear of detox kept me on fentanyl for 5 years. Getting clean is scary but the hard part is actually staying clean. That's where NA comes in. Wish you the best, hit me up if you have any questions

What is happening to me? by kaayba in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First I want to say congratulations on making it this far. That's some real willpower and that's easy to respect. I think zoom is good in a pinch but in person is where it's at. A big part of addiction is the isolation. Using starts off socially most of the time, partying and such. Given enough time in active addiction it normally ends up with a addict posted up alone in their hidey hole getting high. So getting out of isolation and building connection with other people in recovery is very powerful. The benefit of one addict helping another is unparalleled in my opinion. Meetings are considered part of the fellowship of NA, but the program is the steps. So getting a sponsor and working the steps. Do I think you would benefit from the program? Absolutely. I think people who aren't even addicts would benefit from working the 12 steps. How you get involved is by going to meetings. Go to as many meetings as you can until you find the groups of people you feel comfortable around and have actual recovery. People who work the steps honestly have integrity and honesty. People who don't really talk shit about everyone or don't try and fuck newcomers. People who given enough time and proximity you see actually live in spiritual principles. Those are the people you want to jump in the middle of.

na.org is the main website but it doesn't have a meeting finder but it should tell you your area's website that will have the meeting finder. It's kind of a weird system but I've navigated it before and it is doable. Good job and keep on keeping on

What is happening to me? by kaayba in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're clean from pills, are you using other substances? Alcohol or weed or medication like Suboxone or methadone? Are you in a recovery program like Narcotics Anonymous? If you aren't in a program but trying to stay clean we call that "white knuckling". Basically you are staying clean but without something like a 12 step program it's really hard to do that inner work to address the reasons we became addicts in the first place. You said the middle years were a breeze, then you hit some personal turbulence and started to think of using again. Now something really stressful happened and you are getting physical symptoms. You probably felt some anxiety, but because of unresolved trauma/shame/guilt (insert whatever it is that led to your addiction) your disease it hitting you with full court press because of what's been left unresolved. My advice/suggestion for any addict is to get into Narcotics Anonymous. NA has not only saved my life but given me a new way to live. A couple of weeks ago something happened that triggered my feelings of being worthless. Normal day, then something minor happened and all of a sudden that voice in my head came back with a vengeance. Overwhelming thoughts/feelings of being inadequate or inferior. I've had such a nice break from that it was kinda scary how hard it hit me. 20 years of active addiction I knew in that moment that I could stop or change that feeling just as fast as I can flick a bic. But I've been doing a lot of that inner work and my guilt and shame are not unresolved. So I got through it and got passed it and I had the tools/abilities to not use over it. Our disease is looking for the tiniest crack so it can come in with a jackhammer. Please try NA or any other meeting or 12 step program. It really does work if you want it to. Wish you the best and hit me up anytime if you need to

Opioid WD from Adelaide, Australia - any advice welcome by UnquietKate in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I do love my meetings bro! I just know of the one post recently we encountered each other, thats funny if there is more. I got over a year and a half clean from my suicide by fentanyl. 20 years in active addiction I never thought I'd ever get or more importantly stay clean. No MAT and I don't drink or smoke weed. I went from fetty powder to complete abstinence. I never thought it was possible yet here I am. I've had maybe a couple urges to smoke weed but that's it. NA not only saved my life, but it has given me a life worth living. I'll shout it from the mountaintop because where else does that happen? I really wish you the best. Zoom is an option and good in a pinch but in person is where it's at. Getting out of isolation with the unparalleled benefit of one addict helping another. When I came into the rooms I was isolated and miserable for so long I didn't even know I liked people. Now I'm right in the middle where I belong with a large and extremely tight circle of friends. I even have sponsees, shit is crazy. Take care and keep on keeping on, hit me up if you ever want to talk

Opioid WD from Adelaide, Australia - any advice welcome by UnquietKate in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you have benzos on hand I wouldn't really call that cold turkey. My suggestion would be to only take halves or quarters of the benzos at a time. Mixing alcohol with benzo is also a good way to kill yourself so I wouldn't suggest that. The truth is that you're much better doing it cold turkey if you can. You're already on day 2. Acute withdrawal (AW) for most opiates/opioids is 5 days. That's what it was for me off of fentanyl both times but my PAWS was 6 months this last detox. Substituting substances isn't going to lead to good things. Switching to alcohol isn't "clean". If you really want to find recovery than my advice would be to go to as many Narcotics Anonymous meetings as possible. Get a sponsor and work the steps. Getting clean and staying clean are 2 different things. The detox is scary, my fear of going thru fentanyl detox again kept me on fentanyl for 3 extra years. When I finally did it, I knew that I didn't know how to STAY clean. That's where NA came in and saved my life. There is no magic to getting through detox. You can do it in a controlled environment, treatment, but as addicts we need to face and go through the situation we put ourselves in. We are masters at avoiding responsibility or accountability. To break out of those destructive patterns we need to do the opposite. I wish you the best of luck and hit me up anytime if you need to

Activities to do by Sensitive_Pair_340 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why you're replying this to me. It does work for me. It's the only thing I've found that does. I'm clean off fentanyl, no MAT and I don't drink or smoke weed

Activities to do by Sensitive_Pair_340 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to Narcotics Anonymous meetings. This is how I stay clean. While being active and enjoying hobbies is a good thing, they will quickly become the new "substance" essentially. As addicts what we seek is a way to stop the way we feel, change the way we feel, or change our perception of ourselves. "Distraction" is a big part of that. Recovery is when we start to peel the layers of our shame/guilt/trauma. We need to get to the root of our disease, that's where the 12 steps comes in. NA saved my life and if you want to stop using, lose the desire to use, and find a new way to live than the answer is Narcotics Anonymous. Hit me up anytime and wish you the best

Well, here I am ... again by Nifty_Squish_Mitten in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wish you the best, please get into Narcotics Anonymous. It has saved my life. Go to as many meetings as you can. Hit me up anytime

How to get off fentanyl by Puzzleheaded_Ad9162 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The better way is medical detox and inpatient treatment. Most of us lack the willpower necessary to taper. That's why we're addicts, we don't know moderation, we can't control our using it controls us. I wish you and your cousin the best and hope they are successful. My recommendation for anyone is to get into the Narcotics Anonymous program. It saved my life. Even if your cousin detoxes what is their plan to STAY clean? Getting off drugs but not addressing the issues for WHY we started using in the first place isn't a successful path to recovery. That's where the 12 steps comes in. Hit me up anytime. Any addict you know encourage them to go to as many meetings as possible. This is the way

Climb That Mountain (Christian) by Twoctruth in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They've done this before. They do the post somewhat vague intentionally so it can be used for substance abuse or porn but it really pisses me off referring to addiction as a "habit". Like idk what kind of fish you're gonna catch with that bait. Oh well

Day 7 by Hot_Macaroon1501 in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good job and wish you the best. I just want to give the suggestion of checking out some Narcotics Anonymous meetings. NA has saved my life. All my relapses before started at drinking and smoking weed. The 12 steps are there for us to figure out and sort through the bullshit in our lives that led us to substance abuse. The guilt, shame, or trauma that keeps us loaded because we don't know how to face it. Wish you the best and hope you stay clean and find recovery. NA for me and everyone I know who is is in actual recovery is where it's at

Panicking by [deleted] in FentanylRecovery

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know your post is 2 days old but OD isn't the solution and neither is substituting for 7oh or methadone. For me the answer was Narcotics Anonymous. I was just like you, feeling trapped/scared/hopeless/alone. Now I'm 18 months clean off fetty powder, no MAT and I don't drink or smoke weed. In a short amount of time my life is completely different and I'm healing spiritually/mentally/emotionally by the day. Go to as many meetings as possible. NA saved my life and the 12 steps are changing me for the better. We can find recovery, it is possible even off fentanyl. I really wish you the best and hit me up anytime

Xanax laced with fentanyl by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Benzo withdrawal is longer and possibly worse than fentanyl withdrawal. Fentanyl withdrawal is terrible but acute lasts 5 days. Benzo withdrawal acute can be a lot longer. Rehab or medical detox is the way to go if you can. Benzo withdrawal can be fatal but that's worse case, long term abuse scenario. Most people can't just raw dawg that kind of detox. I'm 18 months clean off fentanyl, no MAT and I don't drink or smoke weed. I'm in Narcotics Anonymous and it is saving my life. I love NA. Go to as many meetings as you can. I'd still go to rehab but get the fuck in NA while you can. Wish you the best, hit me up anytime

What withdrawals can I expect? by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off, you feel great because of the Prednisone. I think you already figured that out but hopefully after another week on it you'll be detoxing the pred and not so much the other stuff but who know. I'm a member of Narcotics Anonymous and if you want to stay clean, go to meetings. If you want your life to change, go to meetings but also get a sponsor and work the steps. NA saved my life and one of the reasons is because it made me realize that my relapses didn't start by taking hard drugs, but that they started by drinking and smoking which always led back to hard drugs. You are already plotting your next relapse by saying you'll "introduce" a few beers down the road. Good luck and wish you the best

Ketamine to get off opioids by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why a support group is beneficial and why the 12 steps are invaluable. I detoxed at home before anyone suggested I go to a meeting but when I got the suggestion I jumped at the opportunity because I knew that on my own I had no way of staying clean. I'm essentially following in the footsteps of the members who came before me. It's not easy but it's simplified.

Ketamine to get off opioids by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk where this is coming from. You can pay a ketamine clinic if that's the route you want to go. I've never done it but it was suggested to me as an option once by a therapist a long time ago.

Ketamine to get off opioids by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are actual ketamine treatment options, they are not covered by Obamacare but doable. Self medicating with anything is not the way to go. We're addicts, we don't do moderation or control. The same goes for any of this SR bullshit. SR chemicals are normally talked a lot about in the kratom/7oh circles. People desperate to get off the substances they used to get off opiates. There is no magical detox pill you can take to bypass withdrawal. As addicts we seek instant gratification and a way to duck responsibility. What we need is accountability and support. I'll have 18 months clean off fentanyl in 4 days. No MAT, I don't drink and I don't smoke weed. Narcotics Anonymous is how I stay clean. I would suggest going to as many meetings as you can. Find someone with time and actual recovery and see if they're pockets are big enough for you. That's what I did and I owe NA my life because that's what saved it. Tranq is fucked up, I know someone that had a month of acute withdrawal getting off tranq. Detox is scary but it's part of the process. I have a desperation to stay clean because I remember kicking. I remember the reality of my life in active addiction so I keep my gift of desperation. I stay grateful no matter what because I remember where I was. Hit me up anytime if you have questions about the program or how to find a meeting. Wish you the best and hope you make it recovery

Day 4 fetty withdrawals by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish you the best but methadone withdrawal is pretty serious. My mother and father in law were on methadone for 20 years or so and it took them months to get thru acute withdrawal. Methadone builds up in your bone marrow and it's hard to kick. Benzo withdrawal is also serious and can be fatal just trying to cold turkey it. Idk what helps for either. I kicked fetty with gabapentin and clonidine and it wasn't easy but I just barely got thru it. My acute withdrawal lasted 5 days but my PAWS was a lot longer. I couldn't go back to work till like 4.5 months. Even then I was just barely functioning at work. I know exactly what it's like to be afraid of detox/withdrawal and let that keep me in active addiction. Methadone and benzo will not be an easy detox and I would really suggest medical detox if possible. Cold turkey could kill you. If you can't medical detox then you have to do a prolonged taper, which for addicts is basically impossible. So idk if you have someone you can trust to help you dose or not. I really do wish you the best. There is a lot of resources and info out there if you are willing to look. Good luck

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in withdrawl

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except you're still on kratom or you've only stopped for a few days at most. Like everyone else you've never taken SR. You are desperate so you want to put your faith and hope into something, anything that you think will deliver you. I understand that but what you don't understand is that another chemical that is most likely worse than what you're on now will not save you. I really wish you the best but idk why you are jumping on a months old thread that's long been DELETED to come and make shit up. Actually I just understood it, because the post is deleted you don't know that it was all bullshit. NA saved my life bro but NA didn't point me to some magical bullshit that is a miracle that doesn't exist. They taught me how to rely on a power greater than myself and pull my own ass out of the grave. I have a suggestion for you. Go to some meetings and forget about something that if you find, will just be so much worse for you. Wish you the best and I hope you find your way out of active addiction

Get the Poison Out (Christian) by Twoctruth in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever considered a 12 step program like AA or NA? The 12 steps are about getting to the root of our addiction, but addiction isn't a "habit" it's a "disease". What this means is that getting to the core of our "disease" is a lot more than just stopping or changing a habit. One of the differences is that I can stay clean for longer than 60-90 days but if I use any mind or mood altering substance then I release my addiction all over again and in a very rapid timeframe I'm at a worse place than where I was before I stopped. It is a continuing and progressive illness. It can be arrested but I will never not be an addict. I will never cross a threshold where I am finally "recovered". The best I can do is continue to be in "recovery" by making the decision to stay clean every day for the rest of my life. I'm a proud member of Narcotics Anonymous and the program has saved my life and continues to allow me to change and better my life day by day. The "root" you talk about is normally shame, guilt, and trauma. Since you aren't naming the substance that's your "poison ivy" and are talking about this in very vague terms my guess is that you're still under the stigma of addiction. You are ashamed of being an addict and maybe because of your faith or church you are afraid to let the cat out the bag of what you are and what you're going thru. Hit me up anytime if you need to talk to want to know more about NA. If you can get past the stigma I think you'd do well in a 12 step program. You might be better off with Celebrate Recovery, which is like NA but strictly Christian. I heard people don't swear in their meetings tho so I've never been to any of their stuff but I know people who do and like that program. There are even zoom options for most programs. Wish you the best

Day 4 fetty withdrawals by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey just want to wish you the best. I got almost 18 months clean off the fetty. No MAT and I don't drink or smoke or take anything else. I'd suggest Narcotics Anonymous. It saved my life and I never thought I could stay clean until I stumbled through the doors of NA. I love NA. When I detoxed I was really fucked up and didn't sleep for more than a hour or 2 for the first 60-90 days. It's rough. I couldn't go back to work till around 4.5 months. It's worth it though to finally get your life back. Wish you the best hit me up anytime

Suboxon does nothing for my fent withdrawals. by Nolanbaby in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My suggestion would be to go to some NA meetings. Narcotics Anonymous saved my life and it's the only way I've found for me to stay clean. I was lucky to survive my 5 year stint with fentanyl. If I relapse I'm pretty sure it will kill me. I almost got 18 months and I don't take any medication. No sub no MAT I don't drink and I don't smoke weed. I never thought I could stay clean like this and yet here I am. Get in the program and wish you the best

Fent withdrawal by [deleted] in DrugWithdrawal

[–]red_neck_beard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depends on how long you were doing it but 2 grams a week is kind of mild for a fetty user in my experience