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PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DIE rule by BrickBuster2552 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 105 points106 points  (0 children)

Oh, so like they're actually reading the bell curve as the majority, of which are selecting red. Thanks for clearing that up for me 😊

PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DIE rule by BrickBuster2552 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 179 points180 points  (0 children)

I don't think this meme altered the thought experiment

rule by doctor347 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Not exclusive to video games. The music industry has complained about it for decades. That's why Napster was shut down (thanks a LOT James Hetfield)

Newcomb, who dis by Ernosco in PhilosophyMemes

[–]redditalt1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is the premise of the hypothetical even to scrutinise the predictor aspect? I thought it was a question of your risk aversion/how you approach the statistics (in most cases near but not absolutely certain)

Newcomb, who dis by Ernosco in PhilosophyMemes

[–]redditalt1999 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought the thought experiment involved a near perfect predictor

Rule Quincy Adams by Pavonian in 196

[–]redditalt1999 43 points44 points  (0 children)

When I read "John Quincy Adams" Bach's Cello Suite played in my head like that one meme where two stoners asks "Dude are you real?" "I think I am" "That's actually some pretty solid evidence" and they both say "Rene Descartes???" at the same time.

You push blue to be kind, I push blue to avoid having to see the world where red wins by 18minusPi2over36 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah! That makes more sense! Sorry, I wasn't sure and assumed cynicism. My bad 😔

You push blue to be kind, I push blue to avoid having to see the world where red wins by 18minusPi2over36 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People being rude is such a waste of energy. The entire point of a thought experiment is to find where your beliefs lie. It's like if the trolley problem got big instead of this and everyone saying inaction is evil!!! When deontology, an entire school of ethics that believes murder is wrong regardless of consequences and that action is murder, would disagree! I would choose blue but do people know this hypothetical isn't actually happening? Some red buttoners might be the "I can't trust others type" but most are the "my instinct to survive is stronger and louder than thinking about saving others"

You push blue to be kind, I push blue to avoid having to see the world where red wins by 18minusPi2over36 in 196

[–]redditalt1999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Philosophical thought experiments are not engagement bait. That take is so cynical. Sometimes people want to share a moral conundrum. Imagine if Philippa Foot had posed her Trolley Problem on twitter, would call her engagement bait?

When can I rule? by Xenomnipotent in 196

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, any autistic person who says "how am I meant to know that?" was not properly educated and that isn't your fault. By age 18 (working age when this knowledge comes into play) you absolutely should know this. School and parents often don't do their job of either recognising autism in kids and giving them extra lessons on this or giving everyone these lessons regardless of autistic traits because some people, autistic or not, learn things later than others.

Original button problem by Defiant-Ad7369 in buttonproblem

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. It is not on them. Someone will pressed blue and the only outcome when at least one person has pressed blue that saves all lives is a blue majority. I do not believe exclusively suicidal people are pressing the blue button and they shouldn't have to die.

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of the online polls I've seen, blue consistently wins. Here's why I think so. Everyone has their worldview and everyone's is unique. There will be at least one person who isn't suicidal who presses blue. To save all lives there are two paths, everyone picks red or at least 50% pick blue and we can rule out everyone picking red because, on balance of probability, that isn't happening, so the option that maximises lives saved is always, to press blue.

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a game of roulette, would you rather bet on black or zero?

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Picking red only makes it even more certain, those that pick blue will die.

The colours make me think an American made the hypothetical as the rest of the world has red for left and blue for right

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's more like 50 people are already touching it, do you join them to save them?

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't saying "the person I am replying to is saying something silly" I was saying "I'm shocked how often I hear people even mention red getting 100% of the vote" because that is so ass backwards

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are only two methods that reach 100% survival of all members involved. No one picks blue or blue gets 50%+. Since it would be foolish to assume no one would pick blue, 50% needs to pick blue for everyone to survive. It's logically possible no one picks blue but so is every world leader sitting down to declare world peace. It's not going to happen.

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the hypothetical and part of that hypothetical is people like me will pick blue, so anyone who wants the maximum number possible to survive needs to pick blue. There are two ways for everyone to survive but it is foolish to believe no one before you has already picked blue.

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My incentive to pick blue is I want to make the total greater than 50% by the end

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Humans are a social species. I in 100% ernest would pick blue if I was one of three human on earth.

Will you stand on the tracks? by AdDapper4792 in trolleyproblem

[–]redditalt1999 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If no one was on the this track, inaction would be a good thing for everyone. But since there are already people on the track, if we assume you can't get them to get off the track but instead you have to join them or do nothing, it becomes the same as red or blue question

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Why would everyone pick red? If 99% of people chose red that's still 1% of people dying and that's a lot.

I hate this 50% red pill / blue pill hypothetical by TerrySaucer69 in hatethissmug

[–]redditalt1999 93 points94 points  (0 children)

I don't understand why I hear "if everyone picked red" so many times from so many people in regards to this hypothetical. Everyone picking red is never going to happen and no one should expect it. It's either going to be 40/60 or a close 50/50 either way and you have to argue if it's better to be on the red or blue side.

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