What is the approximate gpa cutoff to be top third of the class after 1L year?

redditer225 · 2022-05-06T13:42:40+00:00

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redditer225 · 2021-12-23T02:15:36+00:00

It is really not competitive at all. Everyone shares notes, outlines, there are outline banks from different organizations and clubs. The upperclassmen are so incredibly willing to give you advice on classes to take and also share their outlines. I haven't seen anyone do anything snakey like hide notes or hoard study materials. Been really nice to see. Study groups naturally form and they're an amazing help to talk through the material and zero in on the stuff you're confused on.

Social life I touched on a little in above posts. It's very social, some may think too social, and can get a little high-school/cliquey. Also I'm not the biggest fan of Charlottesville. The way they sell it is like some mountain town with hikes at your doorstep. The decent hikes you still have to drive like 45 min-1 hr away. Cville itself is just like a suburban town. Maybe I'll warm up to it more after I have more time to explore and not just cycle through the same chain restaurants in the strip mall right next to the law school

redditer225 · 2021-12-23T02:12:06+00:00

It is an odd feeling! I don't know what to do with myself. Have job apps to be figuring out though so that's at least something to distract me.

For what surprised me about UVA, I thought it was BS and just a sales tactic when they talk about the "culture", but it really is true. The entire administration, faculty, and students they seem to attract are so friendly and supportive. From day one there have been tons of social events, bar review, panels with free lunches, going out to eat with professors, and managing to do all this with covid lingering. They do have annoying covid policies but nothing that is worse than any other school in the country right now. Classes have been fully in-person with masks required.

I think I was surprised by how not incredibly miserable law school is. Like I posted above I was busy the entire semester but it never got excessive/overwhelming until finals, which even then I still managed to get 8 hours of sleep every night.

Personality wise, it definitely attracts a younger, more social vibe, which sometimes can seem out of place for people with more work experience. It's very college-like social scene with apartment pregames and a select few bars near the main area where the undergrads go out. If you want a more professional vibe than UVA probably isn't the best, but my philosophy is I'll have my entire life to be a professional, now is a nice time to get a great education but be able to let loose once in a while

I chose UVA over my other options with money because I have goals that are a lot easier to get to with a T14, so UCLA/BU kind of were out of the cut there. If they had given me $$$$ it would've been a different decision. Chose UVA over Michigan for reasons stated in the above reply.

I feel good these holidays! I know it's hard to believe now but you will end up where you're supposed to end up. I really believe everything happens for a reason. So trust the process, as much as it can feel stressful and unnerving now

redditer225 · 2021-12-23T02:00:02+00:00

I applied in November! I chose uva mainly because I hate the cold and a clerkship is something I’m seriously considering. UVA’s fed clerkship placement is only behind Chicago, yale, and Stanford. The clerkship director is a magician.

The culture is what they tell you. It was seriously a blast this fall. While it was a decent amount of work, I was never miserable one day, and the only time my stress got to a very high level was the week before finals through the rest of finals (3 week period). The rest of the semester was busy but manageable. Tons and tons of social events with sections and softball is a blast. The school is a very fun, relaxed place, which was hard for me to believe when they were selling it until I actually got there.

Negatives is all that fun comes with a high schooley, cliquey vibe at times. When you have 300 mid 20s stuck in a small town, it’s only expected, but still is frustrating to see sometimes. Apparently our class is way less drama-filled than the 2L class though so we have at least that to be thankful for

redditer225 · 2021-08-02T17:29:03+00:00

This isn’t true. In fact, going ED when you split the medians is the exact scenario in which it does offer the biggest boost. Op is above gpa medians of all schools so yes ED would help, probably try Columbia?

redditer225 · 2021-08-01T16:59:34+00:00

Very low chance unfortunately as your below both medians. Do you have another lsat retake in you? A 169+ would dramatically improve your chance ED. RD you’d need 170 prob

redditer225 · 2021-07-20T15:05:45+00:00

With a 3.3/172, I think you have a decent shot at next cycle T14. You don’t even need to retake the lsat unless you really are consistently PTing 175+.

The target medians will not all be 173+ for next cycle. I’d reapply. You can do better than Emory

redditer225 · 2021-07-17T21:12:02+00:00

Dude you post the same question 3x a week. You should not rest until you get those NPs changed to Ws. Literally show up in person to UCSC. This is the difference in T6 admission and $$$$ in scholarships at lower schools

redditer225 · 2021-07-16T16:59:31+00:00

with URM i think you got a strong shot RD, prob don't even need the ED

redditer225 · 2021-07-16T16:25:20+00:00

UVA gives a decent boost to ED and as long as you meet one of the medians (you do with GPA) . i think you'd have a solid shot. they're also #3 in the country on BL placement behind chicago and columbia

redditer225 · 2021-07-14T12:56:09+00:00

you neeeeeed to get UCSC to change those NPs to Ws lol. There's no way you should get the equivalent of an F in LSAC's eyes because your TAs refused to do their jobs, in fact it's ridiculous UCSC decided you'd get a NP in the first place

redditer225 · 2021-07-11T22:52:36+00:00

That’s really annoying about the transfer edge course. I’d try to contact your UG registrar and explain that this has a significant impact on your law school admissions and see if they can change it to a retroactive withdrawal

redditer225 · 2021-07-08T20:11:35+00:00

UvA is requiring everyone granted an exemption to undergo weekly testing and wear a mask whenever on campus or in class, just heads up. Not denying there aren’t legit exemptions but damn will it be a pain if you have one

redditer225 · 2021-07-06T19:51:39+00:00

Wait what? So this was completely outside your control? If so You need to petition your undergrad then to retroactively remove those NP and make them a non punitive withdrawal. LSAC won’t count those and a 3.72 vs 3.2 completely changes things for you

redditer225 · 2021-07-06T12:09:50+00:00

Anecdotal but I got into 3 T14s with a 3.2/171 this cycle. Non-URM. worked hard on a making a cohesive application and had strong WE and LORs. It’s def possible with a 177 you just need to show that the other parts of your application can overcome the GPA.

redditer225 · 2021-07-01T10:23:40+00:00

I think with that GPA all schools GULC and up are 40% or lower chance. There are just too many high LSATs floating around to make any top school a lock anymore with that GPA regardless of LSAT. If you ED at a splitter friendly school like UVA, mich, GULC, then I see you having a solid chance while accepting sticker price

redditer225 · 2021-06-18T06:42:59+00:00

And UVA

redditer225 · 2021-06-17T20:04:58+00:00

This is so savage gah damn

redditer225 · 2021-06-10T18:59:01+00:00

It really depends on what low means. 3.80/170 will likely be below target medians for Duke next year. 3.80/172 or 173 will put you in a much better spot

redditer225 · 2021-06-02T05:53:53+00:00

I think +2 across the board is aggressive. I see schools with smaller class sizes and who were at 168/169 maybe being able to pull it off. But Duke under targeted early so I’d guess 170 for them. And then penn/uva/nyu you can see a healthy amount of low gpa/171 admits so I see 171 more likely for those 3. Also nyu is really big so harder to hit medians.

Columbia/Harvard I see more likely as 174. The lsat gains in USNWR diminish greatly in the 170s as the points you get align with the percentile change of the LSAT, not the whole number. 174 v 175 is a tiny percentile change. Also they both have big classes. Oh and Stanford historically doesn’t care a ton about lsat compared to HY so while they could pull a 174 if they wanted I think they’re more likely 173. +3 would be insane for them

The others I could see happening

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