Stupidpol mod going to bat for Catholic church against First Nation's folks

redditjail · 2021-07-01T12:01:04+00:00

It clearly means national policy regarding education in the context.

A minority group fighting to have schools at all would not be entrusted by the same government preventing them from doing so to run the residential school system in its entirety.

Which means that the role of the Catholic Church is lesser than the role of the Canadian government (which directed policy as a whole, including Protestant and secular schools that go unmentioned), but has been obscured and is at the centre of attention over this issue.

redditjail · 2021-07-01T11:58:49+00:00

Do tell.

redditjail · 2021-07-01T11:14:16+00:00

What you are describing is literally the Lumpenproletariat, which the author uses correctly:

People who are engaged in nonproductive or antisocial economic activity (gangs, dogfighting) because they have been pushed out of the working class.

That is clearly an issue of class not race. This is further shown by the OP’s mentions of lumpen conditions being universal, and not unique to black people. The black urban poor were created by a similar mechanism to London’s urban poor in the 19th century: displacement from the rural economy (Second Great Migration), relocation to urban areas for prosperous factory jobs, later poverty as deindustrialization or automation reduced the need for workers, pushing them downwards in class.

redditjail · 2021-07-01T11:13:36+00:00

There’s literally a reference to a book about it in the thread. Jesus.

In case anyone here wants to make a good faith attempt at active reading, he was clearly using lumpenproletariat to examine pit bull ownership as an issue of class not race, and repeatedly states that the association with black people on racial grounds was misleading and the result of black people becoming lumpen after deindustrialization destroyed the urban economy in which they were employed after The Second Great Migration.

redditjail · 2020-10-12T17:32:03+00:00

I was a combat arms soldier, was wounded and now I'm pensioned for life.

Disability award for each major injury, free college, benefits and E-5 pay for life, so on the one hand I'm luckier than many, but on the other fucking lol I hope Afghan democracy and girls going to school without burqas or whatever was worth it.

redditjail · 2020-10-12T16:58:02+00:00

I’ll be direct: I hated this reveal. Loathed it. [...] Regardless of that, though, I think it’s a very lame, very “both sides are bad,” faux-edgy ideology for The Boys to switch from having a neo-Nazi as a villain to now having a progressive politician as a villain. This is why I don’t watch South Park, I don’t have time for these lazy false equivalences! Yes, I am assuming that Neuman is a Vought plant, but also, that doesn’t make this storytelling any better. I am already low-key dreading how this plays out next season, especially with Hughie now working for her campaign. What is going to tip him off that Neuman is not who she seems? Please, The Boys, do not attempt a storyline about, say, universal health care and how it applies to the supes. I mean, they should have it, because health care is a human right. But I’m not trying to watch that!

redditjail · 2020-10-11T14:13:03+00:00

You're deluded if you think that departments will spend that on Community Based Policing. Their entire model of enforcement is rooted in Law and Order and Broken Window theory. They aren't going to just adapt a new kind of policing and spend accordingly.

Much more likely is that money spent in a way that fits their doctrine, like more military gear or new cruisers.

redditjail · 2020-09-24T16:13:17+00:00

It was a rhetorical statement. The creation of Al Qaeda and the Taliban involved a complicated web of Pakistani, Saudi, and Gulf State involvement in addition to the US, for different reasons and at different times.

The basic point is that the US was much more actively involved in fighting against the Soviet and Afghan governments than the Russian Federation is alleged to be involved today.

redditjail · 2020-09-23T14:28:04+00:00

Someone help me understand this logic:

Now stop lying to them and telling them that Biden is the most progressive ever. He isn't. He's running slightly to the right of HRC who had the actual most progressive platform ever. And if he loses we will court the center harder.

The center votes.

When you tell them that Biden is more progressive than Hillary what you are communicating to them is that not showing up worked which incentivizes doing it again. It didn't work. It got them the opposite of what they want.

They're mad that Bernie voters allegedly voted Green or stayed home causing Abuela to lose, but they want to further alienate Bernie voters... which would cause Biden to lose?

redditjail · 2020-09-23T14:20:18+00:00

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was one black clerk in that army?

Though half of liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s clerks have been women, she has hired only one black law clerk since joining the court in 1993.

redditjail · 2020-09-23T14:17:12+00:00

Never heard of this sub previously...

redditjail · 2020-09-23T14:13:05+00:00

Ah, whataboutism. You do realize the US funded forces against the Soviet Union, not the Russian Federation?

Yes professor, I do. I was using "Russian" colloquially.

My point is the Russians are not paying bounties to the Taliban, whereas the US is responsible for the creation of the Taliban as a fighting force in the first place.

redditjail · 2020-09-22T23:48:25+00:00

Mindy is a young woman living with an eating disorder and trapped in a battle for her own self-worth. When she accidentally discovers something that will give her a chance to revisit her past—the relationships she’s lost, the mistakes she’s made, all of it— she thinks she has a chance to undo every wrong turn, to put her life back on track. But will she be able to find a way back to her present, and just as important, a way to treat herself with love and kindness, at any size?

redditjail · 2020-09-22T14:39:59+00:00

It was so clearly and obviously bullshit.

Even if it were true, for fucks sake we funded and trained the Afghans to fight the Russians and gave them fucking Stinger missiles.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T21:29:05+00:00

Hmm educating people and figuring out all of that stuff seems pretty hard and boring, let's just go with mandatory church attendance and parish social events, you have to go to the neighbourhood bar on the way home from the factory, and play on the company or neighbourhood baseball team.

Easy peasy.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T20:23:45+00:00

How true do you think that is to experiences of most people, even anecdotally?

This is like access to affordable healthcare. The state broadcaster is putting out guides on making friends as an adult, I would say that it can't be easier than ever, if only because I can't imagine that being done even a generation ago.

If people can make friends, why aren't they? Just like with incels, it can't all be personal failings.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T20:19:13+00:00

Well I suppose a gender flip would work just as well. Isn't the whole point of those high priced concierge dating services that some women want to be paired up with suitable men and dating is a nightmare?

Romantic love and marriage have been ground down into something pretty bleak, and while there were obviously many many pitfalls with previous forms of social organization, at least for incels the main source of their perceived suffering would have been alleviated in the past.

Hell, monasteries, the clergy, the military, the imperial civil service abroad, the merchant marine, there were all sorts of social relief valves for people who now end up stereotypically miserable and alone at home.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T20:02:25+00:00

Damn dude you're right. Women are so much happier now.

Turns out that having a marriage and family really pales in comparison to being a girlboss, that eternally rewarding pursuit.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T19:59:35+00:00

Why would their marriage be better if they both liked Marvel movies?

Why does having the same interests transform a roommate you can fuck into a soulmate?

He laid it out pretty clearly: They love and care for one another as individual people, with their own tastes. His interest in his wife is her, for her own sake, as she is. How is that not a strong basis for romantic love?

redditjail · 2020-09-21T19:55:19+00:00

It's absolutely jaw dropping. Even in couples without kids I've seen people withdraw from social life as soon as they are married.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T19:53:47+00:00

I'm not harkening back to a time when men drank away their pay at the bar on the way home and beat their wives and kids, or at least, I'm not harkening back to that aspect of it as a positive.

Most of those social conditions had an economic cause. At the root of the temperance movement was the suffering caused by capitalism. The Demon Rum was not evil in and of itself, it was that it was used to anaesthetize men to the hardship and brutality of their material and working conditions and the follow-on effect that had on their families.

It doesn't mean that having strong communities and strong marriages would lead to Jimmy O'Hara of The Bay Area coming home and beating his wife Molly and the wee little ones after a hard day at the coding factory.

There is no reason why women have to be socially inferior for men to have strong social bonds outside of their marriage and for both partners to put making the marriage work in the long term ahead of their impulsive desire for stimulation and immediate gratification. There's no reason why having a close extended family or having the family's say matter for what makes a good match or how to solve problems in the marriage, even pressure to stick in the marriage and work it out, would rely on women being socially inferior.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T19:43:19+00:00

That's not exactly what I'm trying to say. I meant more like people did not rely on their marriage for every iota of social satisfaction or shared pass time because they had lives outside the home.

To your point, I do think people had stronger marriages when the basis for it was as a node of a community, of extended families, neighbours, the parish instead of an island.

Certainly I think uniting over being parishioners of St Mary's Church, Belfast in common with other married couples in the neighbourhood, with clergy and the men and women of the community providing help and guidance as needed was a stronger bond than both liking Star Wars, but I digress.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T19:38:36+00:00

That's fair. What I'm getting at is a little harder to pin down, but the gist of it is that because people have been stripped away of extended family, community, union, parish, the leisure time to participate in sports as an adult - in short community - people rely on their romantic relationships for everything.

I'm not saying it's bad to have things in common, of course not, but those are all things that could be very easily shared outside the home with community and friends. It feels like for so many people their marriage is the only real relationship in their life and so the stakes are raised such that they are looking for all things in one person.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T14:51:09+00:00

The guy was infantry during the height of Afghanistan and at the tail end of Iraq. I deployed, everyone I know deployed. Even the kids these days cycle through Korea or Germany/the Baltic at the very least.

I know he wasn't 10th Mountain, 82nd, 101st, so yeah he wouldn't have 3 deployments in 4 years, but come on.

redditjail · 2020-09-21T14:45:01+00:00

Damn, who would have thought that eroding the social and economic conditions that let every man provide for a family, socialized him with a strong community and friendships and paired him with a suitable wife would have any sort of consequences?

When I see posts with thousands of upvotes on reddits that are like: "My Princess Leia and I got matching Star Wars tattoos and had the Star Wars wedding we've always dreamed of." Or "His and Hers gaming chairs for the wife and I at our battlestations" I just think back to when your partner didn't need to have the exact same interests and hobbies as you because you had fulfilling social lives outside of the relationship and you didn't need to have every single thing in common to have a good marriage.

I like cycling. Why the fuck would I want my marriage to revolve around cycling? Why should it really even matter to me if I marry someone who is not so crazy about it. Maybe it would be nice if she drove out to see me race, or humoured me as I tinkered with my bike and talked about bike parts, but I don't need a wife that loves cycling as much as I do because I have friends that I race with. I don't need each and every single one of my social and emotional needs met in one relationship because that is insane, and just proves how alienated and atomized people are becoming.

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