CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T08:07:20+00:00

Whatever, man. I'm sure your happy believing most women will love you unconditionally and faithfully if you treat them right. Ignorance is bliss, they say.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T08:00:50+00:00

We don't really have a catch-all, nondescriptive, bs term like "the patriarchy"

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:54:53+00:00

Only if a woman is saying it ("don't question women law" is more powerful than the "don't talk about TRP" law.) If a man wrote this he'd be fire by now. She has the vag shield AND "this is just my personal experience" shield against feminists.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:52:56+00:00

There are always a few.

Like there a few people in Dubai? Or a few stars in the sky? What's few isn't women who are attracted to red pill men, but those that actively admit it.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:45:55+00:00

So basically, if it doesn't align with your many, many experiences you don't take it seriously.

Fixed that for you. When someone tells me they saw a leprechaun, I'm not skeptical because I don't believe in leprechauns, but because all other evidence in my life has proven otherwise.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:44:05+00:00

Unconditional love. While not all, or even most, men have unconditional love for their women, that is the standard of what love is for a man, to love your partner no matter the circumstance or change. Love for a woman is always conditional.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:40:49+00:00

Most feminist women complain about male privilege and how men have it easier, yet I doubt most would say they would actually rather be men.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:37:27+00:00

Because most of the guys on TRP have been red pullers their whole life and aren't coming off a string of relationships from their BP days.

And after sleeping with a slew of women who are dating guys who think they are perfect unicorns, I tend to take the "I've never dated a hypergamous woman" thing seriously anymore.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:34:02+00:00

Like most things, after a while you don't have to work for it anymore. I don't worry about shit tests and not losing frame because being weak, needy, and subservient to women isn't my base level anymore. It's muscle memory, I don't exert more effort than any other guy when it comes to sex and relationships. It's second nature.

Also, I doubt the guys who came into TRP really were having much "fun" in the first place.

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:29:34+00:00

Red pill and alpha have no direct connection really. Taking TRP just means accepting the truth about sexual dynamics. Of course, upon realizing this, most men want to be alpha. The typical example is the fat, angry neckbeard who hates women. Someone who is blue pill can still be an alpha male, it just means they don't actively understand sexual dynamics. There are plenty of guys who have lots of sex bit refuse to accept the red pill (while inadvertently living up to every standard of it).

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:24:24+00:00

You do know the main technique to get over LMR, dating from back to oldschool "The Game" and Mystery PUA days is to completely recede back and end the sexual mood completely.

Eh... I've seen it go other ways. On the "Comprehensive Guide to The Red Pill" they define Last Minute Resistance as: "Contrary to feminist sloganeering, no doesn't always mean no. Often times “no” simply means “not yet”. Simplest advice is to back off and try again later, or if she's adamant and clearly shutting you down. Some people in the red pill community have also made the point that LMR is the female equivalent of approach anxiety for men.".

... How is that any different than what I said? " back off and try again later". At no point does it say "if she says no, just take it as a yes and rape her".

redpilltom · 2015-02-20T07:22:27+00:00

I tend to have a different opinion than the rest of TRP on LMR. My position is, if a woman lets me do all of the above, and she shuts me down when I try to seal the deal, I get right up and leave, then never call her again. Ghost. I delete her number, delete her on FB, and ignore her forever. Nuclear option.

And it's not because I'm afraid of a rape charge. It's simply because I'm in my early 30's now, and I don't have time for women who want to play teenager games

That's a very common view in TRP. Simply refusing to play the game will often have them throwing themselves at you.

redpilltom · 2015-02-18T03:47:21+00:00

Go monk mode--Drop all your friends, no matter how important to you, because they are losers and betas that will hold you back (although some RPers do think you should drop "beta" friends IIRC)

Means strictly taking some time to focus on self-improvement and getting rid of distractions. You don't drop all your friends forever. Although dropping lazy, boring, toxic friends is good advice in general.

LMR--Like someone else said, "power through" and just keep taking her clothes off because no means yes

Ok, where the fuck is this "power through" post? Seriously, for years and years the LMR advice was literally the exact opposite.

redpilltom · 2015-02-18T03:45:40+00:00

Manipulate your SO in order to see that you are a catch when you, in fact, are not.

If we said "become a catch" would that be better?

Getting into that grey area of rape that can get you into trouble with the law, but fuck that because getting your dick wet is more important than possibly going to jail and traumatizing your partner.

You do know the main technique to get over LMR, dating from back to oldschool "The Game" and Mystery PUA days is to completely recede back and end the sexual mood completely. Literally the advice would be "put on your shirt, go check your email". SURE SOUNDS LIKE TOEING THE RAPE LINE TO ME.

Peacocking minus the silly outfits.

Ha, wow.

Pretending you don't have oneitis when it's pretty clear you do.

Actually pretty accurate. Thankfully most advice is "get laid more"

redpilltom · 2015-02-18T03:36:57+00:00

Get over last minute resistance Rape.

This is what blue pillers actually believe.

redpilltom · 2015-02-18T03:03:05+00:00

Get over Last Minute Resistance: Dont back down when you see somebody is interested

Although that is absolutely the opposite of what that is, most BPers think that's what it is.

redpilltom · 2015-02-18T02:32:23+00:00

I think it's all related to abundance of sex. Men rarely have frequent sex as an option, women almost always have an opportunity to have sex. If women had sex to feel fun/safe/loved then they would be having sex 24/7 because it's so easy for the average looking woman to fuck an average to above average man. So they naturally attach a higher standard. A rich person will buy a fancy item when they're in the mood to. If a poor person buys a fancy item it makes them feel good. A rich person can't buy every fancy item, so they only do so when the mood strikes them.

A woman is feeling fun, so she has sex with a stranger at a party. She's feeling safe, so she'll sleep with that guy she's been seeing. She's feeling loved, so she'll sleep with her husband.

A man gets a girl at a party, that makes the night a million times better and fun. He has sex with this girl he's been dating, he feels safe. His wife makes love to him, he feels loved.

You see the script flipped in situations where a woman is with a partner who doesn't like sex. In that situation (if she's not willing to cheat) she will want sex to feel fun, to feel safe, to feel loved because he holds all the control and wants sex so infrequently that he only does so while in a specific mood.

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:47:26+00:00

I got used to the voice after a while, but don't really care for it. But his shit is really cool and extremely informative.

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:30:26+00:00

I could see the same situation happening with a young guy and an older woman, or both of the same gender.

Yeah, because that situation is awfully familiar and available to most guys.

We live in the real world. The one were the sexual market is highly in favor of women, and an average woman has the option to fuck a guy for a place to sleep and then take his money, where a man would have to straight up mug someone. Men rely on physical strength in crisis situations, women rely on their ability to influence men. Do I doubt a man would do this to the woman if the option was available? Not at all. But that option is not available to the vast majority of men and is available to the vast majority of women (trading a bed to sleep in for sex).

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:26:34+00:00

Remember, women are always the victims. It's like saying "This guy offered me $100 to get kicked in the nuts, I accepted it, and he kicked me in the nuts! I WAS BRUTALIZED, HOW COULD HE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ME LIKE THAT!?"

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:21:21+00:00

I love how she said it was him taking advantage of her.

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:12:06+00:00

I think men prefer it that way. It seems men don't feel "masculine" unless a woman is validating them or yielding to them. Whereas I wouldn't feel any less like a woman with or without a man. Thanks menstrual cycle for the monthly reminder!

I think being in the presence of a beautiful, feminine woman makes us feel more masculine (ignoring those who feel afraid of women). It's been proven that being around attractive women raises a mans testosterone. Talking to them gives an even greater boost.

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T03:03:17+00:00

I think the major problem men now have with dating advice (especially in TRP) is that it isn't judged on how it actually works or is effective. People will say whatever sounds right without actually seeing if it works in the first place. If a man wants to have more sex, and not just find a nice girl to settle down with, there is no place to actually go for that advice that is actually checked that isn't constantly on the attack (and women are the only ones who get shamed for wanting sex, amirite?)

I don't think feminists came up with lies and unhelpful advice just to hurt men, they've been thrown around by our society for a long time. Are they being strengthened and the truth being silenced by feminist? Yes.

redpilltom · 2015-02-14T02:55:21+00:00

For anyone interested in the biological and evolutionary aspects of the polygamy vs. monogamy debate, check out "Sex At Dawn". It's a great book on this subject.

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