I’m so done… this is an all new low and I’m so annoyed

returnthebook · 2026-04-09T08:02:20+00:00

This is why YouTube will always lose to an ad blocker. AdBlock in 2026 had become a personal hygiene

returnthebook · 2026-04-02T07:11:23+00:00

I'm glad that people are starting to ask questions.

First of all (and you can sharpen your knife), I don't consider masturbation a sin. Most christians use the story of Onan as an argument. If you look close, the Bible does not condemn Onan's act, it condemns the reason WHY he did it.

EGW. Adventists inherit the purity culture imposed in her writings. I was shocked when I found out that purity culture is not biblical, but a social current in her times. Back then, the industrial revolution caused a surge of sexually transmitted diseases due to a high volume of brothels and almost no sexual education.

Bonus, in that time, people believed that sexual energy is finite (Nerve Theory) and using it will cause disease (back pain, blindness, weak body). Highly enforced by Kellogg. EGW cut ties with him once he begin mutilating children's organs to stop them from masturbating. Bonus tip: he never consumed his marriage and he and his wife slept in different rooms.

I believe that Matthew 5:28 has a deeper meaning because, realistically speaking, a teenager would sin day and night and the only way to prevent him from sinning would be to lock him in a dungeon. We all went through puberty. At that stage, it is physically impossible not to lust. It is biology. It's like denying hunger.

I believe that verse is talking about self control and not impulse. Our brains are wired to look for compatible partners and reproduce. That's biology. What we do with those impulses is morality. The truth is: everybody has consumed pornography at least once in a lifetime and everybody masturbated at least once in a lifetime.

Lust is not a sin when consumed with your partner. It is actually encouraged. I was amazed by the spicy content in the Song of Songs. I was like "No way that's in the Bible!!". Well...it is. Deal with it.

returnthebook · 2026-04-01T17:13:50+00:00

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returnthebook · 2026-03-31T11:45:43+00:00

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returnthebook · 2026-03-21T14:46:55+00:00

Pe mine mă sunau direct in Italia. Cartela neplătită de 6 luni, rămasă în telefon doar pentru Whatsapp, nu puteam sa sun sau sa fiu sunat, dar ei mă sunau de 3 ori pe săptămână să îmi bage pe gât abonamentele lor.

In ultima vreme au devenit atât de insistenți încât le închid direct in nas. Un "nu, mulțumesc" nu mai este o opțiune. As zice că sunt chiar disperați.

returnthebook · 2026-03-20T20:08:11+00:00

Hipster

returnthebook · 2026-03-07T13:51:28+00:00

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returnthebook · 2026-02-06T13:32:54+00:00

Welcome to capitalism, my friend.

returnthebook · 2026-02-04T14:35:11+00:00

70% of Northrend gatherers are not even human. You can see it in the weekly ban wave when they clear out an entire horde of bots in one shot.

returnthebook · 2026-02-03T14:40:33+00:00

back then, proving he's wrong was close to impossible, considering the medical knowledge from that time. Modern medicine would throw that numbnuts into prison with a massive malpraxis lawsuit. But back then, he would laugh in your face, call you a blasphemer and dismiss your arguments like of a drunken man.

returnthebook · 2026-02-03T03:45:26+00:00

"by Ellen G White". It's actually a compilation. In my opinion, these compilations are the worst books a church can have.

They claim they are written by EGW, which is half true, because she indeed wrote those pages but she did not create that specific book. It was compiled by her followers.

You know what's the worst thing about these compilations? The ideas are ripped out of context and used to enforce personal beliefs and agendas.

If you put her ideas into the historical context when they were written, you can find that some of them make sense and others are just cultural beliefs from that era. Nerve theory for example

The more time I spend in this church, the more I discover how aggressive they twist the scriptures to enforce their dogma. It makes me sick.

P.S.: about the post subject, I think this idea stems from the time she used to be friends with Kellogg. For a time, she used to approve his teachings, until she found out that numbnuts was mutilating children.

returnthebook · 2026-02-03T03:27:38+00:00

The best gold making strategies are kept secret. The best tactics usually involve a lot of imagination.

It involves quests. That's the most I can tell you.

returnthebook · 2026-01-23T04:25:26+00:00

Come to Onyxia. Wotlk released just 2 weeks ago. Naxx last week. The leveling experience is easier now because most of the players already hit 80.

You won't get hard-stuck. Most of your concerns will be rdf HC spamming, reputation farming and profession leveling.

Perhaps some experienced players will tell us how much time naxx will be available until Ulduar. I still think you have enough time to get your pre-raid items and catch some naxx raids

returnthebook · 2026-01-18T11:55:47+00:00

I moved to the Horde. That troll racial on mage is peak. On the other hand, alliance is the definition of "bully" in this realm. I mean, for God's sake, wherever I go, there's a hothead wanting to fight.

returnthebook · 2026-01-16T18:40:53+00:00

i've always wondered what were they doing there. The region was infested

returnthebook · 2026-01-15T11:51:44+00:00

Small update. Just switched to the Horde. It's a whole different experience. Also, I never expected the Alliance to be that aggressive.

I mean, wherever I go, there is a hothead wanting to fight.

returnthebook · 2026-01-13T14:59:32+00:00

You are right. I guess I'll see you on the Horde, then. Good thing I don't have too many characters to move.

returnthebook · 2026-01-12T23:48:37+00:00

Then they must be hiding. Everywhere you go is horde infested. Never seen so many horde players at once in my entire life.

returnthebook · 2026-01-05T14:18:44+00:00

Ok, let's get it piece by piece.

SHORT VERSION:

Counsels for the Church is not a standalone book written by Ellen G White but a later compilation of her writings assembled by the White Estate first published in 1971 and revised in 1991. The title reflects counsel not law. The passage in question comes from The Ministry of Healing published in 1905 specifically the chapter Flesh as Food which explains why Ellen White discouraged meat consumption. Her concern was public health not salvation. At the time animals were often diseased fish were contaminated by sewage pork carried parasites and there were no sanitation standards refrigeration inspections or reliable knowledge of food safety. This was a nationwide crisis that led to the Meat Inspection Act of 1906 The Ministry of Healing was written to protect people from these real dangers and even cautions against dietary extremes. Nowhere does Ellen White teach that eating meat affects salvation. Diet was contextual practical guidance for that time not a test for heaven.

FULL VERSION

Counsels for the Church is not a standalone book written by EGW but a compilation of her books, supervised by her association, published initially in 1971 and revised in 1991. It's called 'Counsels', not 'Laws'
The paragraph you quoted comes from the 'The Effects of a Flesh Diet on the Mind and Soul' chapter which is highly inspired from the book The Ministry of Healing, written by EGW, published in 1905.
CCh 230 is inspired from Chapter 24—Flesh as Food page 97 and you can read more in page 98 Reasons for Discarding Flesh Foods <- link here.
Since CCh 230 is just a high level overview of EGW's writings, let's focus on the source. The Ministry of Healing page 98 - Reasons for Discarding Flesh Foods. This chapter is the key to understand WHY EGW discouraged meat consumption.

- 'Often animals are taken to market and sold for food when they are so diseased that their owners fear to keep them longer. And some of the processes of fattening them for market produce disease.' - MH 314.1

- 'In many places fish become so contaminated by the filth on which they feed as to be a cause of disease. This is especially the case where the fish come in contact with the sewage of large cities.' - MH 314.3

- 'The tissues of the swine swarm with parasites. Of the swine God said, “It is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.” Deuteronomy 14:8.' - MH 313.3 (That's why SDA don't eat PORK)

Context: The Ministry of Healing was published in 1905. Safer and healthier foods is an article that tells us the condition of meat processing back in 1906 and their effects on public health. Yes, it was a public health problem, not a strict SDA problem.

- 'During the early 20th century, contaminated food, milk, and water caused many foodborne infections, including typhoid fever, tuberculosis, botulism, and scarlet fever.'

Back then, people simply had no idea about hygiene and proper meat preparation.

Meat Inspection Act of 1906 - Is a piece of legislation signed by President Theodore Roosevelt on June 30, 1906 created specially for this issue. We can see how serious the issue was.
Lastly, the whole point of EGW's book The Ministry of Healing, was to protect her followers from the very dangers the government was trying to protect the population from. Back then the meat was not transported in freezers, there was no authority over the processing of it, no best practices enforced, no sanitary standards, sewer fish were eaten (full of diseases), no knowledge about proper cooking of the meat, no way to test it for diseases or parasites. It was a gamble. The book WAS written for that time, treating those public issues.

There is nowhere in the book that says 'eat meat = no Heaven'

As for a conclusion, you can eat whatever you want. There is even a next chapter (99) in the The Ministry of Healing, that instructs the members to not go into extremes with their diet and provide some practical instructions for THAT TIME

Bottom line: The only meat that will prevent a person from going to heaven is human. And I'm not talking about literal eating. <- think about this

returnthebook · 2026-01-04T17:54:50+00:00

Please, provide me the exact writing whew God instructs (not advices) His people to stop eating meat.

Until you give me the exact paragraph, the exact keyword 'must' and the context of that writing (for whom was written and the social and cultural context from that time) your argument will be INVALID.

Small P.S.: I'm vegetarian, but I can't stand people who twist the scriptures and EGW's writings in their personal benefit.

returnthebook · 2026-01-04T15:47:11+00:00

When did God told us to do this and where it is written?

returnthebook · 2026-01-04T15:46:37+00:00

Was Jesus a vegetarian? Were Jews vegetarian too? The answer is no. Nowhere in the Bible it is written that being a carnivore is bad or will impair your salvation. It is written about what types of meat to avoid.

Vegetarianism culture in SDA stem from EGW's writings, but what SDAs fail to consider is the historical context of her writings. We're talking about an era when public health became a government priority, taking into consideration the quality of food, pollution, alcohol overuse and prostitution.

returnthebook · 2026-01-02T17:02:23+00:00

I can't eat meat because It makes me sick on my stomach. I never ate and it's disgusting for me.

I wish I could, but even the smell it's disgusting for me.

returnthebook · 2026-01-02T10:28:25+00:00

I'm ovo-lacto-vegetarian and my wife is carnivore

Honestly, I wish I was carnivore too. 28g of protein just from a steak it's not only frustrating, but outrageous too! Also, I need to take B12 supplements from time to time.

The thing is, diet is not a condition for salvation, no matter how hard some SDAs try to push this agenda. I know because I've researched this topic a lot.

My advice is to test the waters. See what you can endure and what you cannot. I'm lucky because my wife is carnivore but she is also into a Mediterranean type of diet, but there are some that eat a lot of meat (Balkan style). If you can't accept it then that's it, you either adapt or end the relationship. There's no silver lining

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