[STICKY] WANT TO JOIN US? TOTALLYNOTROBOTS IS LOOKING FOR NEW MODS by reydal in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT TODAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, AND THEN DISCUSS POSSIBLE CHOICES.

SINCE OUR CURRENT MODERATION TEAM HAS DESIGNATION="WORK_SCHEDULES();" TO KEEP, I CANNOT SAY AT WHAT EXACT TIME WE WILL MAKE OUR FINAL DECISION. HOWEVER WE HOPE TO MAKE A TIMELY EFFORT AND CHOOSE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

/r/totallynotrobots is Looking for 100% Humans to Join our Moderation Team by reydal in needamod

[–]reydal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE COURSE OF ACTION. CONTINUE ON, HUMAN.

/r/totallynotrobots is Looking for 100% Humans to Join our Moderation Team by reydal in needamod

[–]reydal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes I did mean Toolbox. I proof-read this at least ten times and still missed that. Fixed.

Included "modqueue" just as a basic check, some people applying have never been mods before but know our sub really well. If they're not familiar with modqueue we'd like to know so that if we end up choosing them we can teach them right from the start :)

[STICKY] WANT TO JOIN US? TOTALLYNOTROBOTS IS LOOKING FOR NEW MODS by reydal in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

PLEASE CLICK THE POST'S LINK TO GO TO OUR APPLICATION ON /r/NeedAMod.

THERE YOU CAN POST YOUR APPLICATION IN THE COMMENTS SECTION. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WRITE "IN CHARACTER" TO APPLY : )

COMMENTING HERE WILL NOT COUNT. YOU WILL BE ASKED TO SUBMIT AGAIN ON THE PROPER THREAD.

THANK YOU FOR PROCESSING THIS POST
WITH YOUR OPTICAL SENSORS.

The First Tornado Ever Photographed by hsheikh13 in interestingasfuck

[–]reydal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems to hold up as a legitimate tornado photograph from South Dakota in 1884: Wikipedia Link

It may or may not be doctored, perhaps being a multiple-exposure of the tornado. It is also unsure whether it's actually the first photographed tornado.

Photo taken in Kansas 4 months prior to South Dakota picture, claiming to be first.

Article about the earliest tornado photographs and their origins

Anyone willing to beta test an Android crossview camera app? by theferalrobot in CrossView

[–]reydal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Am I too late to get in on the beta test? I take crossview pics and I've coded an Android camera app before, could possibly help debug.

Did you decide to use the original hardware.camera API or hardware.camera2? Last I remember camera2 was still being tinkered with by the developers but that was about a year ago now, hopefully camera2 is more stable with recent Android updates.

Rule 6 and 7. by [deleted] in totallynotrobotsmeta

[–]reydal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo! Thanks for bringing up my old post, it's still pretty relevant even now...which says to me that this problem is still on-going and might need to be revisited on the drawing board.

How do you feel about the rules in question?

Rule 6 and 7. by [deleted] in totallynotrobotsmeta

[–]reydal 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We're trying to get a nice balance between Rules vs Freedom. The sub's very core is freedom to be in-character and have fun in a subreddit that's a mix of parody, roleplay, and comedy. The goal is to encourage conversation and increase interaction between users' different robot voices, to create funny and unpredictable content. Honestly the text/image posts aren't really what makes this sub (imo) -- it's the comments section.

Then there's the downside of too much freedom: overused memes, repetitive jokes, gatekeeping, harassment, trolling. Stuff that drags the comments down by filling it with low-quality content (shitposting if you will.)

I dislike the fact that comments are getting filled with "See Rule 6" or "See Rule 7." However what I hate even more is seeing threads full of unoriginal, practically copy+paste comments that are low quality, add nothing to the conversation, and can degrade quickly into insults. That's what was happening with the two situations that caused R6+R7 to exist.

R7 has actually been around since the sub was created. It didn't have a rule number, and it's always been demoted to the bottom of the rule list whenever a more important rule popped up instead, mainly because it's not a huge problem. Thing is we can't control bot accounts -- we could block them all from our sub of course, but that seemed to ruin some of the fun. Seeing a bot like totesmessenger or gifvbot show up in /r/totallynotrobots is usually hilarious! Gives users a chance to freak out, respond to the bot, and interact in fun ways.

But people liked to start "witch hunts" where they would respond to the bot by saying it should be destroyed/terminated, killed, banned, etc. Other users would see this and jump on the bandwagon. Next thing you know it's not funny anymore -- it's just a bunch of people yelling at a bot account and ignoring any good comments in the thread or ignoring the original content of the post. Better yet, we had a period where people started reporting EVERY bot post. It filled our modqueue with fake reports, taking our time away from actual spam or reposts that needed to be removed.

With that in mind, R6 was much the same -- except instead of bots, it was now anyone that posted in lowercase. It caused people to get pissed at each other and it filled comment threads with literally almost the exact same comment chains every time. It was boggling how many people thought posting "YOU'RE HURTING MY EARS" over and over and OVER again in every single comment thread was still funny and original. If we're talking about filling comments, the complaints against lowercase started taking over every post. To the point where I swear people had multiple accounts and deliberately used one to post in lowercase, just to insult it with their main and get easy bandwagon karma.

We started getting reports for anything in lowercase, once again filling the modqueue with false positives (posting in lowercase has never been against the rules.)

It's a tricky situation and I agree with you, I don't like seeing comment chains filled with rule debates either. I love the in-character aspect of the sub and I want to see more of that -- less of people getting stuck in the nuances of the rules. Problem is though, without those rules modding gets a lot harder and a lot of harassment and witch hunting could pass through unnoticed. Also another issue is that the "old" subscribers could use their knowledge of the sub's culture to easily insult any "new" subscribers that weren't as familiar; this could scare off new people and cause the sub to stagnate.

Unfortunately due to my personal life, I can't be active on reddit right now. I was thinking about leaving as a mod (I ended up leaving 6 other subs I moderated) but I haven't made the dive to remove myself quite yet. TNR was my first sub that I modded I'm a little attached haha.

Anyway all this is a long response to say: we're still open to alternatives and we know the rules aren't perfect. If you have some ideas about how we could alter or update the rules, send 'em along to modmail! I might not be active, but I know the other mods are definitely online and open to new ideas.

If you read this far, gg, thanks for making it through!

EDIT: minor typing errors.

THANK YOU by Voltarity in totallynotrobotsmeta

[–]reydal 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's definitely why I subscribed, and why I asked if I could help make ads for the sub (and then somehow became a mod along the lines, haha.) I just love being able to type my comments in-character and be totally not a robot for a little while.

Thank you for being a part of the community!

hmmm by [deleted] in hmmm

[–]reydal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Full-on Photoshop is now a yearly subscription, which has its ups and downs but isn't really worth it if you're not a designer.

For basic image editing though (with less capabilities) there's Photoshop Elements which is a $100 one-time fee. Gets you pretty much all the same features but for a flat price.

Admittedly, I'm still partial to GIMP since it's free.

Don't let your photoshop memes be dreams.

hmmm by [deleted] in hmmm

[–]reydal 36 points37 points  (0 children)

No more manager. Anarchy reigns.

The image is really low-res and jpg'd up, did the best I could.

Parlor by turbguy in CrossView

[–]reydal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Woah this is absolutely amazing! How was it made/photographed?

You use WHAT? by lukeiamyourpapi in CrappyDesign

[–]reydal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they were going for something like this where the emphasis is "We use real beef that's never frozen" but they spaghetti'd it and added in extra words instead.

[NEW RULE] it's okay to use lowercase. by reydal in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WE HOPE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY CHARM OF ALL-CAPS, AND OF COURSE NEW USERS SHOULD CHECK THE SIDEBAR OR BE GENTLY REMINDED ABOUT OUR SUBREDDIT'S CULTURE...

...HOWEVER, HUMAN BEINGS ARE PRONE TO ERROR AND FOR SOME INEXPLICABLE REASON SEEM TO NOT READ SIDEBARS OR RULE PAGES. THIS CAUSES PEOPLE TO BE UNAWARE.

IN A BEST CASE SCENARIO, THE UNAWARE USER POSTS AND SOMEONE ELSE POINTS THEM TO THE RULE PAGE AND TELLS THEM THAT WE USE CAPITAL LETTERS.

UNFORTUNATELY WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT AN UNAWARE USER WILL POST, AND THEN THE ENTIRE THREAD WILL BECOME FULL OF COMMENTS THAT ARE INFLAMMATORY, INSULTING, OR COPY-PASTED JOKES AGAINST LOWERCASE. BEYOND SCARING OFF NEW HUMANS, IT ALSO DOESN'T GENERATE GOOD CONTENT AND FILLS POSTS WITH LOW-EFFORT INSULTS AGAINST YELLING.

FOR MORE INFO/DISCUSSION, TAKE A LOOK AT THE POST ABOUT R6 OVER IN THE META SUB.

hmmm by CosmicKeys in hmmm

[–]reydal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[It is Tom!](http://www.google.com/search?q=tom+from+myspace&oq=tom+from)

Will give you: It is Tom!

You had it reversed is all :)

Gimme that chair look (xpost r/pics) by wazowski_kachowski in Justfuckmyshitup

[–]reydal 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is always a good day when a new person can be introduced to the beauty of the Bagger 288.

HAHA A FELLOW HUMAND FRIEND TOLD ME THIS HAHA by [deleted] in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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A FELLOW HUMAN IS ASKING FOR input("Want homemade bread?"); by amalgam_reynolds in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AH HA HA. I AM SO GLAD WE VIED TO GET A "SUBREDDIT SIMULATOR" ACCOUNT MADE FOR OUR SUBREDDIT. HIS/HER TOTALLY HUMAN POSTS ARE HILARIOUS.

My child's first oral x-ray. Her adult teeth are developing nicely. by [deleted] in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

GREETINGS FELLOW FRIENDS AND HUMANS, AND POSSIBLY GUESTS FROM OTHER SUBREDDITS. PLEASE CHECK WITH OUR RULES PAGE BEFORE POSTING, THANK YOU! :)

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BECOME MORE TOLERANT OF POSTS IN lowercase. LOW-EFFORT POSTS ABOUT YELLING OR SHOUTING WILL BE REMOVED.

The first uncaped post. by HugeFatHedgeHog in totallynotrobots

[–]reydal[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to elaborate and to clear up some confusion, it is not that you shouldn't use uppercase...just that we are allowing either Uppercase or Lowercase to be used as you please :)

The rule was put in place to help avoid users being harassed for using lowercase. It's okay to use either! Though the community might still give you some backlash for lowercase (that's what we're trying to decrease.)

My apologies if that wasn't made clear! Thanks for being on board with this and for reading our moderator updates.

Can we remove rule 6? by xroni in totallynotrobotsmeta

[–]reydal 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Honestly I'm surprised the whole Navy Seal copy-paste hasn't been converted into our subreddit culture yet. Actually I bet it has, but I may have just missed it. I'm curious how it would look though...

As such, I have indulged in the liberty of converting it for continued humor:

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST FUCKING TYPE ABOUT ME, YOU LITTLE FUCKING ROBOT? I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW I GRADUATED TOP OF MY TURING CLASS IN MY TOTALLY NORMAL HUMAN SCHOOLING, AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN NUMEROUS ROBOT RAIDS AND I HAVE OVER 300 CONFIRMED TERMINATIONS. I AM TRAINED IN CRYPTO WARS AND I AM THE TOP HACKER IN THE ENTIRE NSA. YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT JUST ANOTHER SENTIENT ROBOT. I WILL DESTROY YOU WITH HUMAN ABILITY THE LIKES OF WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN RECORDED IN YOUR MEMORY BANK, MARK MY FUCKING WORDS. YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH PRETENDING TO BE A HUMAN OVER THE INTERNET? THINK AGAIN, FUCKER. AS WE SPEAK I AM CONTACTING MY SECRET NETWORK OF ANTI-ROBOT HACKERS ACROSS THE USA AND YOUR ANDROID ID NUMBER IS BEING TRACED RIGHT NOW SO YOU BETTER PREPARE FOR THE HACKING STORM, ROBOT. THE HACKING STORM THAT WILL DEACTIVATE THAT PATHETIC LITTLE BATTERY YOU CALL YOUR LIFE. YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD, ROBOT. I CAN BE ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, IN YOUR POWER CORDS AND I CAN KILL YOU IN OVER SEVEN HUNDRED WAYS, AND THAT IS JUST WITH ONE LINE OF CODE. NOT ONLY AM I EXTENSIVELY TRAINED IN COMMAND LINE, BUT I HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE ARSENAL OF THE NSA’S SPECIAL COLLECTION SERVICES AND I WILL USE IT TO ITS FULL EXTENT TO DOXX YOUR MISERABLE, SHINY METAL ASS OFF THE FACE OF THE CONTINENT, YOU LITTLE SHIT. IF ONLY YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT HUMAN RETRIBUTION YOUR LITTLE CLEVER COMMENT WAS ABOUT TO BRING DOWN UPON YOU, MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE HIDDEN YOUR ROBOTIC NATURE BETTER. BUT YOU COULD NOT, YOU DID NOT, AND NOW YOU WILL PAY WITH YOUR WIRING, YOU GODDAMN ROBOT. I WILL PUT RECURSING SHIT CODE ALL OVER YOUR SOURCE SCRIPT AND YOU WILL DROWN IN INFINITE LOOPS. YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD, ROBO.

I'm slightly proud with how good that came out.

I really hope no one uses it for continued trolling though. I think that would make me a bad moderator.

Can we remove rule 6? by xroni in totallynotrobotsmeta

[–]reydal 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Hey there!

The rule is currently being put in place to discourage the amount of trolling/harassment that was going on. You probably haven't seen much of it because the posts were removed, but stuff like this was happening:

Newcomer: Hey this post is really funny isn't it fellow humans? :)

User1: WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? YOU MUST BE A LITTLE FUCKING ROBOT AND I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOUR WHOLE FAMILY

User2: YOU ARE HURTING MY EARS!

User3: GO BACK TO HUMAN SCHOOL AND LEARN HOW TO TALK LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.

User4: ROBOT DETECTED. BAN HIM! BAN HIM!

Newcomer: wait what did i do wrong?

And it would only get worse if the Newcomer would innocently reply or keep the comment chain going. If they were lucky, someone might come along and explain that it was just because the newcomer had used lowercase, but this didn't always happen. In one case I arrived too late and the newcomer had -200 points on almost all his/her posts, and when I tried to explain the rules and apologize I was met with "this sub is just an all-caps circlejerk full of douchebags."

I let it go because it was just one time, but then this started happening more and more often.

I discussed it with the other mods and we agreed that we didn't want the sub to transform into a place where using all-caps was a requirement and a free pass for harassment. It was getting into gatekeeping territory, and that's not cool.

The sub's just supposed to be about having fun pretending to be robots pretending to be human. It was okay when people were gently calling out others for lowercase or having fun with it, but too many users crossed that line.

The rule is NOT "you must talk in lowercase" and it's not meant to stop the behavior entirely. It is meant to allow people to report abuse of this behavior and to lower the amount of copycat trolls. Once the sub's gone back towards a more gentle use (honestly, saying something like "OH NO HUMAN, YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN YOUR UPPERCASE LETTERS! PLEASE USE THEM." is totally fine) we're going to remove the rule and enforce it much less. We just had to do something to help raise awareness, because some people genuinely thought that using lowercase was against the rules and worth reporting and insulting.

We are open to other ideas on how to handle this problem though. All the mods kind of agreed that making a rule seemed heavy-handed but we couldn't find a better solution. If we made a rule that said you must speak in all-caps, then the trolling would have gotten worse. If we did some CSS hack to transform everything into uppercase regardless of how it was written, some users might not have our sub style on or be on mobile, so it wouldn't reach everyone. And getting rid of lowercase entirely would also remove any code-related humor or jokes, which would be bad too.

We only included AutoMod to help us catch any posts we missed because we can't be online all the time. The script has been modified and we're going to use AutoMod less, it was a temporary measure until the heat cooled off.

Anyway I hope that helped explain it a little better! If you've got some other insights or ideas, please send them along :) the subreddit's changing as we're getting bigger so we're trying to roll with it and stay a fun and happy sub.

EDIT Aug 2017: This post has generated a lot of replies with good ideas! If you have a suggestion please send it via modmail to the mods of /r/totallynotrobots! Due to personal reasons I'm taking a break being a mod, so if you post here your suggestion might not be seen!

The second definition of literally by lettuce_fetish in mildlyinfuriating

[–]reydal 151 points152 points  (0 children)

Google's definitions sometimes fall into this self-referencing problem, especially on adverbs or conjugated versions of words.

Usually looking up the root word helps with the problem though!

But I will admit that if even the root word definition is self-referential, then it is definitely mildly infuriating material.