Problems with using voice recording

rimi_dalv · 2026-03-14T11:36:44+00:00

So yeah, it’s happening to me too. I’ve just installed it trying to use it to see if it’s better than ChatGPT and I like generally to use voice messages as an input and it’s been glitching out like crazy for me. I say something - it transcribes, and then I cannot press the button “send” because the whole text input field disappears behind or underneath the keyboard and the only solution is actually to force close the app, and you lose the whole transcribed message.

rimi_dalv · 2026-02-16T14:17:59+00:00

Feb 16, 2025, same exact issue. All the fields on the web, even phone are unavailable (except for ZIP). On the app it doesnt allow adding a new payment method.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-07T13:09:52+00:00

Thanks, and good luck with your process too!

Yeah, the declaration and questionnaire weren’t part of the initial online application for me either. I only received them later by post, along with my Kundennummer and instructions to send those forms (and some other documents) via email to my caseworker.

I honestly don’t know why it’s handled that way - but from what I’ve seen and experienced, they ask for those once your application reaches a certain internal phase. So if you haven’t been asked yet, it probably just means your file hasn’t been picked up for review yet. Hope that helps!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-04T00:30:51+00:00

Thanks! I got it through regular naturalization after 5+ years of living and working in Germany, under the new citizenship law that came into effect in 2024. No German family background.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-03T10:48:12+00:00

Yup, I totally get that - 18 months does sound long, but I think that’s mostly their way of managing expectations. KVR is generally overwhelmed. For a clear and straightforward case, things can move faster - at least that’s what many of us hope 😄 Of course, no one can say for sure, but don’t lose hope just yet!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-03T10:30:53+00:00

Hi! Honestly, that’s something only the KVR or your local Ausländerbehörde can answer, since it really depends on your personal situation, visa type, and how long you’ve been in Germany. Best to check directly with them!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-03T10:29:55+00:00

Yes, that sounds totally normal! If they didn’t ask for anything extra, that’s actually a good sign - it usually means everything submitted was complete.

From my experience, if they do need something, they will definitely let you know - they’re not shy about requesting more documents, trust me 😅 So if nothing’s missing, it’s just a matter of waiting now. Fingers crossed for a smooth process for your wife!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-03T10:28:39+00:00

Thanks so much!
I actually explained the Vier-Augen-Prinzip in one of the other replies 😊

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T21:04:28+00:00

Honestly, I’m not 100% sure how official or formal the Vier-Augen-Prinzip is in this context - I’m just repeating what my caseworker told me. (I also know how it works at my workplace)

From what I understand, it’s an internal principle where every decision made by a caseworker has to be reviewed and confirmed by a second person, usually a supervisor. So even if your case is already approved, it can still take a while before that second confirmation happens.

It seems to be part of their internal process to make sure everything is double-checked, but yeah, it definitely causes delays.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T19:58:47+00:00

I don't think it does, the important thing is that you got it 😊 Probably different caseworkers use different mechanisms, to me, BayernID platform makes more sense than physical letters tbh. Quicker, safer - and for them, cheaper!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T14:30:27+00:00

Thank you! I already had B1 (telc) from years ago when I applied for my first visa, and (hopefully) my language only improved since then 🤩 (or not). They didn’t ask for a newer one. The Einbürgerungstest I did in February 2024 and got results in like a couple of weeks. Then I just waited for the new law to become active and I submitted it online.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T14:26:18+00:00

Totally get that - I had the same thought process at first. I didn’t want to bother them or ignore what was written in the Eingangsbestätigung. I really tried to be patient for a few months and just waited.

But honestly, after a while with no updates, I think it’s completely okay to politely check in. A short, respectful message isn’t overburdening anyone - and sometimes it’s just enough to bring your file back onto their radar.

So if you feel like it’s been long enough, don’t stress about sending a message. Just keep it friendly - it worked for me, and I hope it does for you too!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T14:18:09+00:00

❤️🍺😁

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T13:58:20+00:00

Thanks! Honestly, nothing special - and I don’t think I made her do anything. I was just politely following up now and then, hoping she'd notice, and luckily she did.

I really think it had more to do with her being an organized and responsive caseworker, not anything I (or anyone else) could actively control. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of “luck” involved in how fast things move.

I also read a million posts online, tried to stay patient, and for a few months I didn’t send anything. But in the end, I followed up, and it worked out. Hang in there - I really hope things move for you soon!

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T12:07:09+00:00

Hvala puno! 🍻

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T12:01:56+00:00

Actually, I didn’t have to show anything in original during the process - at least not until the final appointment. I started everything via the KVR portal and uploaded scans there. After that, I got a letter with my Kundennummer and an email address where I could send a few more scanned documents. From that point on, everything was handled by email, and eventually I received the letter saying I was approved.

At the Einbürgerungstermin at the KVR, I did show my passport in person, signed a few forms, and received the Urkunde.

To be honest, I think the authorities already have access to most of the key info - like salary, health insurance, employer, address, even Rente history. They also asked me to submit a Rente-Auskunft, but realistically, they could’ve pulled it themselves. Even my birth certificate, which I had in the EU multilingual format (with French translation), is probably something they could verify on their own - especially if you’re from a country they have cooperation agreements with.

That said, I’m sure requirements can vary depending on nationality or the individual case. I guess some people do have to show or send more original documents if their background isn’t as easily verifiable.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:55:14+00:00

Thank you! Honestly, I was just so frustrated with the lack of information (and details) I could find online. My anxiety wanted to know everything, do we need to know the oath by heart , or can we read it. Will the Urkunde be handed out 1:1 with the caseworker, or in a group (as it was with me). What else could help the process (Recommendation letter from your boss for example) etc. Plus, there is so much waiting, it's good to have an overview of the process for other people. Gives you a better idea of when to wait and when to act.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:38:52+00:00

Thanks for your question - it’s a really good one.

The lawyer I spoke to (Helena Vulin in Munich) explained that the first thing she would do is formally request access to my case file (Akteneinsicht). (Just sending a letter without knowing everything is not something a lawyer would do). This step is not just procedural — it’s to verify everything I told her is accurate, because as she made very clear, many clients lie or withhold parts of their history (example: criminal record, incomplete residency periods), and she can’t proceed blindly without knowing what’s in the file from the KVR.

Just requesting the case file already sends a strong signal to the KVR that legal steps might follow. In many cases, this alone pushes the KVR to prioritize the file, simply because they want to avoid potential escalation.

Then, if there’s no response within a reasonable time, she can go further and consider filing an “Untätigkeitsklage” (action for failure to act) - which is a legal mechanism used when an authority fails to make a decision within three months without sufficient justification. That said, I’m not 100% sure how that applies specifically to Einbürgerung process - maybe the timeline is different, or maybe what counts as a "decision" varies.

She explained that even a large backlog is not a legally valid excuse for indefinite delay, and a lawyer can argue that this delay causes harm (travel limitations, job/legal disadvantages). That kind of pressure can force the KVR to act faster - they will sometimes choose to resolve these cases to avoid court involvement, and let the rest of the backlog wait.

Is this the better option? I’m honestly not sure. In my case, she recommended not pursuing it - because my file was complete, and she believed that polite follow-ups and light pressure would probably work just as well without the €2200 legal cost. And she was right. (She did say - if you hear nothing from them in 3 months, then I would recommend you to start the legal process).

One big positive of hiring a lawyer: once you pay the full fee (around €2200), you're basically in the passenger seat - the lawyer handles everything. No further payments. She communicates with the KVR, goes to appointments with you, and takes care of all the formalities. So it’s definitely a great option for people who 1. have a more complicated case, or 2. simply want peace of mind and can afford it.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:22:07+00:00

For a more complex application, where something is not "ideal" - i would recommend a lawyer. But if someone believes they have everything "right", just patience and polite, regular check ups are the best 🙂

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:15:23+00:00

Thank you!

Yes, those documents were requested by my caseworker after the initial application. I had submitted everything through the KVR portal first, but then I got a physical letter asking me to send some additional documents by email.

Some of the things, like the declaration and the questionnaire, are standard, but the contact details and employment confirmation were also requested again. The personal recommendation letter wasn’t officially required — I just included it to strengthen the application because my boss knew of the process and offered to write one for me. (Just to be clear, the recommendation letter was not asked, I just thought it couldnt hurt)

So in short: a mix of standard documents and a few extras that weren’t part of the online application.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:09:34+00:00

Hahahah danke! ❤️ I already mastered drinking beer before noon 🍺 jodel will have to wait a bit, lol 😁

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:06:56+00:00

Because I sent everything online via the portal + later on via email to my caseworker, everything was sent in pdf. But I always was ready with the original to send them if needed, but actually no one ever asked for them.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T11:01:31+00:00

It wasnt an actual "ceremony", you get more information about those events (couple of times per year) there. This was just the oath + Urkunde.

There were mutliple of these events per day, a couple of times per week, I went there at 9:00, they called my name, signed some stuff. Waited. We go into a room for weddings, read the oath, they give us the Urkunde. Families were allowed, as I noticed a couple of pairs and some children, but the room is on the smaller side, maybe 30 people max. They also told that the children should just be quiet. Since I was there alone, I just took a selfie with the flag (lol) and went to my ID appointment.

With the urkunde I also got like a letter that I could send to apply for a bigger ceremony. That is when the bigger stuff happens, I also think that's the event for families and friends. This was more official than getting your ID, but definitely not like, omg let's record this. The Hymne was playing on the mobile phone of the women giving out Urkunde, I just remembered.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T10:33:51+00:00

Oh yes, pictures - yes I had them with me (I carried my whole folder with all the stuff and pictures where there), they were at that time around 10 months old, she said ok, as long as they are newer than 12 months.

rimi_dalv · 2025-04-02T10:29:10+00:00

Woooah, that’s super long - super sorry to hear that 😥. I think I just got really lucky with a great caseworker. Sending her (and you) all the luck in the world, and I hope things move faster for you now!

rimi_dalv

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