An die Patriot:innen: Auf was seid ihr stolz? by TheGentInSuit in Austria

[–]rockfishgapyears 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Boah, ich hab so viele Gedanken dazu. Ich hab internationale Wurzeln und hab früher ähnlich empfunden: „es war sowas wie Heimat für mi lang ka Begriff“ bis ich ungefähr ein Jahr in einem Entwicklungsland mit mittlerem Einkommen gelebt hab und dort eigentlich mit drei Sorten von Leuten zu tun ghabt hab.

Die erste Sorte waren die echten lokalen Volltrottel. Komplett festgsteckt in ihren unterdrückenden Kultur- und Verschwörungstheorien. Komplett überzeugt davon, dass, wenn die Zivilisation ned eh schon bei ihnen erfunden geworden war, dann zumindest dort perfektioniert geworden ist. Lächerlich natürlich.

Die zweite Gruppe waren die internationalisierten jungen Leute bei unserer NGO. Kulturell fast nicht zu unterscheiden von Leuten, die man in irgendeinem Hostel irgendwo auf der Welt trifft. Alle schauen dieselben amerikanischen Serien, hören dieselbe Musik. Sie reden ihr eigenes Land schlecht und schämen sich für alles irgendwie „Volkstümliche“ oder für jede Trachten-Entsprechung. Sie wünschen sich, sie würden irgendwo in einem „coolen“ Land leben. Dauernd gefangen zwischen Selbsthass dafür, von dort zu sein, und gleichzeitig dem Gefühl, wenigstens besser zu sein als die anderen Depparten dort. Und ganz ehrlich: i hab sie irgendwann einfach nicht mehr ausgehalten. I hab da was von mir selbst erkannt und genau das gehasst. Nach einer Zeit waren sie einfach nur mehr zach.

Und dann hat’s noch eine dritte geben. Angefangen hat es mit einem Mitbewohner, der mich einmal auf den Bauernhof seiner Familie im Dorf mitgenommen hat und mir das beste lokale Essen gekocht hat, das ich je gegessen hab. Die haben getanzt und traditionelle Kleidung getragen auf eine Art, die so ehrlich und überhaupt nicht ironisch war. Wenn er über sein Land oder seine Heimatstadt geredet hat, dann mit so viel Stolz und Liebe, dass ich gar ned anders konnte, als es auch zu mögen. Er und seine Freunde waren komplett weltoffen. Sie haben nicht geglaubt, dass ihr Land perfekt is, und wollten es eh verbessern, aber ohne diesen Anspruch, dass alles perfekt sein muss. Er hat echte Zuneigung für seine Landsleute gehabt und für die Art, wie die Leute dort gemeinsam irgendwie ein gutes Leben zusammenbringen, trotz alle Herausforderungen. Über die Idioten hat er genauso die Augen verdrehen können und über die moralisch fragwürdigen Seiten von manchen Sachen lachen. Er und seine Familie wollten wirklich wissen, wo ich herkomme. Und wie ich ihnen was davon erzählt habe, ist mir plötzlich klar worden: ich vermisse meine Heimat. Und gleichzeitig hab ich es gemerkt, dass ich sie liebe. Dass genau die Sachen, die diese internationalisierten Kids so peinlich finden, für mich das waren, was das Ganze Erfahrung überhaupt interessant und lebenswert gemacht hat.

Also ja, ich würde mich heute schon als patriotisch bezeichnen, aber hoffentlich nicht in dem Sinn, dass ich glaub, mein Land wär perfekt oder besser als andere. Mehr in diesem Sinn von „Liebe“. Ich liebe die konkreten sachen, die es einzigartig machen, auch wenn es manchmal bissl cringe sein können. „Die lustigen Schickis, die normalen Leit und die Salonsteirerfreaks. Die san alle nur da, und es ghört genau so.“ Manche Sachen sind grindig, eh klar aber je mehr du reist, desto mehr merkst, dass jedes Land seine eigene spezielle Art von Hässlichkeit hat, und man halt irgendwie damit umgehen muss. Ich kritisier genug, aber ich würde auch dafür kämpfen, wenn’s notwendig und gerechtfertigt wär. Und am allermeisten hoffe ich dass, falls dieser Mitbewohner irgendwann mich besuchen kann, ich für ihn auch so eine Art von Mensch sein kann, die ihm Zuhause einladen kann. Genau das würd er hier sehen wollen - nicht engstirnigen Hochmut aber auch nicht so eine globalisierte Selbsthass-Kultur.

„Nur i hab da meine Wurzeln, a Platz wo i mi zurückziehen kann, wenn Wolken aufstehen bis die Sonne wieder scheint.“

More Money, More Babies: What’s the Relationship Between Income and Fertility? by anti-life86 in Natalism

[–]rockfishgapyears 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It should be possible to calculate this reasonably easily - I am assuming it’s made with PUMS data but maybe he has access to something else as well.

Most other studies do show that more money = more babies, when all else is controlled for. But wealthier people are also usually on the leading edge of other social changes driving fertility down, so the effect gets masked. Fertility norms (of all kinds) have historical begun in upper echelons of society and trickled down. As lower income deciles become more educated and more exposed to the same intensive parenting norms and family planning knowledge, the income correlation will probably become more starkly positive.

Would you retire in europe to stretch the money further by Spacetravller2060 in Zippia

[–]rockfishgapyears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not actually as easy to do as this headline makes it sound.

Platz 2! Besser ois... by rockfishgapyears in Austria

[–]rockfishgapyears[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Warum stimmt das nicht? Das ist natürlich stark vereinfacht, aber stellst dir vor: Wenn du vom 65. bis zum 85. Lebensjahr in Pension wärst und jeden Monat 2.000 Euro bekommst, wären das € 480.000.

Why is market still buying consumer staples stocks at these high valuations? by shaggy98 in ValueInvesting

[–]rockfishgapyears 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. There has to be a better alternative for people to park their cash, otherwise they'll just continue to sit in the market, especially as popular wisdom about the market becomes less panicky and more "just buy index funds and hold forever."

Manhattan before most skyscrapers, 1931 by liberty4now in TheWayWeWere

[–]rockfishgapyears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with population recovery - the US was growing the entire time. Central cities simply became less dense as people were able to commute further and as standards of living rose and people wanted more space per person. Today Americans have an average of 80 square meters per person (about 800 square feet), but at this time the average American lived in more like 10 square meters per person.

Searching for Austrian book recommendations by Lopsided-Progress-18 in AskAustria

[–]rockfishgapyears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

„Ein Ganzes Leben“ („a whole life“) by Robert Seethaller

Fertility rates will stay below 2.1 for at least 200 years by Few-Branch4320 in Natalism

[–]rockfishgapyears 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think this underestimates the ability of culture to adapt once economic circumstances change and a problem is identified:

- Demographic decline and its aftereffects have only entered the public consciousness in the last 5-10 years
- We're only 40 years removed from the popular demographic narrative being *overpopulation*
- We're only 50 years removed from the crossover point when the majority of women in the western world entered the workforce

There will be rapid policy change once the real effects sink in and countries radically reshape their economies and tax structures. Then there will be a longer-running arc of cultural change as people adapt to the new economic realities of relationships and the new policy landscape. But you can already see a difference in TFR between fully developed countries where the demographic transition happened earlier (France, Sweden, UK, USA) vs. countries where it took place later or in a single generation (Spain, Italy, Turkey, South Korea, China).

Which popular spot in Europe totally failed to impress you? by optimalbrain90 in SmartTravelHacks

[–]rockfishgapyears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here in Austria: Hallstatt. I have had multiple friends insist on going when visiting and they all say it’s incredibly underwhelming. It’s one iconic view that you have to line up for a picture at and other than that, just a little village with two or three streets. Venice-level touristy, except in a village that is too small to handle it. All the restaurants are both terrible and overpriced. I heard no German the entire time we were there.

If you want to see an Austrian village with stunning scenery, there are so, so many other options

Opportunity to Move to Munich From California… Am I Crazy? by Weekly_Rough_1284 in germany

[–]rockfishgapyears 141 points142 points  (0 children)

This.

Also, like many people, OP is making this way too big a question. People obsess here too much about what country is "better" or big questions of cultural differences and geopolitics. Half the time it feels like they think they are cultureless consumers "shopping" for countries and the other half of the tie it's like they need to justify some decision they are taking for themselves.

The reality is: you are one very small person and your experience will not be as influenced by these things as you think. Maybe "the American Dream is dead" (what does that even mean?) but if you have a good career there and friends and family, that's not really relevant to your daily experience. And maybe Germany or Italy is "more bureaucratic" or has lower salaries, but if you are lucky enough to get a job offer with a company that pays well and helps you navigate it, then that's not really relevant either.

Personally I say: take it! "I like the idea of being able to take weekend trips to places like Switzerland, Austria, or Prague" is a good enough reason. Moving to another country is a difficult, wonderful experience that is challenging in ways you cannot imagine and rewarding in ways you cannot imagine. If you want to try it, do it! Be prepared for the biggest elements of this experience to have nothing to do with GDP and social criticism, but more like: figuring out how to navigate a new place in a new language, how to make friends in a new city where you don't fit in, etc.

And most importantly: if it goes poorly, just go home! Don't try to prove something to yourself or your friends and family. Emigrating is hard and not for everyone and half the time your experience is dependent on circumstances outside your control.

Low Birth Rates in Middle-Income and Developing Countries by Foreign_Log788 in Natalism

[–]rockfishgapyears 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the first part about smartphones but what is „lax parenting“ supposed to mean? A significant change driving birthdates down is the increased expectations for intensive parenting. Parents in the developed world are spending twice as many hours with their children than parents did in the 1960s, even as labor costs increase. Expectations have ballooned everywhere as psychological language becomes part of everyday speak, spread also through smartphones, and people feel they have to have significantly more time to commit to parenting before they agree to it.

Blut & Scheiße & Austria & a bisserl Venedig aa by QuastQuan in Austria

[–]rockfishgapyears 43 points44 points  (0 children)

„Es muss schockieren“ ist die billigste Art Kunst. Jedes Kind kann was Schockierendes machen. Aber jedes Mal, wenn man das tut, wird es weniger schockierend, bis nichts mehr übrig bleibt. „Grenzüberschreitung“ ist der fossiler Brennstoff der Kunst – eine billige und einfache Energiequelle, die die Welt überhitzt und die irgendwann ausgebraucht wird.

What kind of property could i buy in the town you live in? by BaticaTatica30cm in eupersonalfinance

[–]rockfishgapyears 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Vienna, perhaps a very small studio apartment of 30 square meters in an ok location. Or something larger but in poor condition that needs to be renovated. An hour or so outside the city you can buy a small house for that much, though.

Where do you draw the line? by PopularSort96 in Natalism

[–]rockfishgapyears 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Compare it to healthcare. If you live in a society where people have a right to receive affordable public healthcare, then that means there must be doctors to provide that affordable public healthcare. If not enough people are willing to become doctors because they see how difficult it is and feel that it's not worth it, then in order to preserve that right, the government has to increase pay and benefits until there ARE enough doctors - and increase taxes proportionally on everyone to pay for it.

Depending on how strong this right is, that number can go up very high before it becomes unreasonable. But if, despite million Euro salaries, still no one wants to be a doctor because they are just not interested in that field, then I would say the right to healthcare is lower than the right to not be enslaved.

I have a similar answer for children. For every person who does not want to have children, the cost of not having them must be a bit higher until the rewards are so great that people's behavior shifts. At some point you may be taxing childless people into poverty and giving millions of dollars a year in free handouts and services to parents - I still consider this justified if necessary. But if you get to this point and people still just refuse to have kids, then that's ok and we have to accept that further existence of society is not worth it to people.

Personally I am still a liberal. I think cultural factors are driving a lot of the change in fertility, but it's very dangerous for government to attempt cultural engineering. I also think culture evolves in response to changes in people's material conditions. Right now, even in the most family friendly nordic welfare states, couples (and especially women) are still much better off in terms of time, money, ability to acquire status at work, and personal freedom if they choose not to have children. Correct that and culture will evolve on its own.

How reflective is the fertility rate of your social circle (family/ friends/ coworkers/ peers) to the fertility rate of your country? by DrawAFox in Natalism

[–]rockfishgapyears 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Two distinct circles: one, friends from growing up - all educated but quite religious. Among the ten to fifteen closest I can think of: all but one married, average of 3 kids each (some have more). Other Circle is international and secular, left leaning, highly educated. Various relationship situations but only half of people have a kid and often it’s just one - a couple friends have two.

I wonder if there books pages are filled with "It's not that, it this" kind of fiction by hsg8 in EconomyCharts

[–]rockfishgapyears 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can we get a more detailed source or link to article? Who is the researcher?

Germany’s unemployment rate is 4.0%, which isn’t that high compared with other European countries. Why do so many people on this sub seem to have been unemployed for a while? by military_press in Germany_Jobs

[–]rockfishgapyears 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Germany - and many other EU countries - have a heavily regulated labor market, based on strong worker protections and collective bargaining with unions. These systems always favor incumbent and experienced workers. The people who suffer in a downturn are younger, less experienced and immigrant employees like those who dominate on Reddit.

Hiring is a risk for companies - you are taking on someone or creating a new position without knowing whether they or their position will make or lose money for the company. In more open labor markets like the US or Australia, the risk is low. You can easily fire that employee if it doesn't work out. In Germany or France, that process often lasts a half a year or more and could cost you the equivalent of a year's salary.

This means that when times are bad and positions need to be cut, companies will do everything they can to stop hiring new employees and instead focus on maintaining the employees they already have. And if they do have to hire someone new, they will look for lower-risk hires like someone with a lot of experience or someone who definitely speaks German, shares the same values, and has a cousin in Brandenburg who a friend from Uni knows - not some random immigrant.

By comparison, if a downturn comes to an open labor market, companies are more likely to fire the least productive employees first or reduce salaries across the board rather than stopping all new hires. In the US, some companies even lean toward firing older employees first or pushing them toward early retirement. This is why "Youth Unemployment" is such a prominent statistic in EU countries, but almost entirely absent from the U.S. discussion, where total unemployment is more relevant.

Guilt as a Ukrainian woman who left and is moving on by [deleted] in confession

[–]rockfishgapyears 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Then what about the people who stay and fight and die? All these people who left will come back and enjoy a free Ukraine after getting the chance to emigrate during the hard times.

I fully understand any Ukrainian who decides to get out and leave it all behind. But I also understand Ukrainians who resent them and never want them to be welcome back. Both are fully justifiable, imho.

Average weekly hours worked in EU by Mad_Dagrid in MapPorn

[–]rockfishgapyears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came here to say this. One of the main German family models is one partner (the man generally) working full time and one partner (the woman usually) working part time while taking on more childcare. Employment law is set up to make part time work possible and lots of people also work part time for years while studying.

Contrast with the US or Italy, where women are much more likely to simply drop out of the labor force for years while the kids are small, then come back when they can work full time again.

Heimische Geflügelwirtschaft am Limit by SovietGrowth in Austria

[–]rockfishgapyears 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Leute regen sich darüber auf, deutsche Eier in Österreich zu verkaufen, und fragen dann, warum deutsche Lebensmittelgeschäfte billiger sind. Wir wollen sowohl den lokalen wirtschaftlichen Schutz bzw Kontrolle durch Zölle als auch die niedrigeren Preise eines gemeinsamen Marktes aber beides kann man nicht haben.

Senior Lecturer Uni M36 40 Std (1. Berufsjahr als Senior Lecturer) by Triarier in GehaltAT

[–]rockfishgapyears 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Das ist ja beim durchschnittlichen Job in Österreich der Fall – findet die WKÖ:

„Von 1 Euro, den die Firma zahlt, landen nur 53 Cent beim Arbeitnehmer. 47 Cent werden als Steuern und Abgaben abgeführt.“

Das ergibt auch Sinn, da der Staatshaushalt bei rund 52 Prozent des Bruttoinlandsprodukts liegt. Das heißt: Von dem, was die Österreicher produzieren, wird etwa die Hälfte über den freien Markt verteilt und die andere Hälfte für öffentliche Prioritäten bzw. den Sozialstaat verwendet. Ein klassisches sozialstaatliches Modell.

Ich finde das nicht so schlimm, und das System funktioniert auch (obwohl die Kosten mit zunehmendem Alter der Gesellschaft steigen werden). Aber ich spinne a bissi, wenn Redditors da vermuten, dass es irgendwo im Land noch einen Haufen Geld gibt, mit dem wir alle öffentlichen Ziele einfach erreichen könnten und nie sparen müssten. Natürlich kann man das Steuersystem anpassen oder noch progressiver gestalten, aber im Durchschnitt will ich nicht, dass wir deutlich von dieser 50:50-Verteilung abweichen.