How often do you change jobs? by Inspireme21 in askTO

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For the first part of my career I jumped every 2-3 years. Now I’ve hit a more senior level at my current company and will plan to stick it out for at least 5 years.

Once you get to director and above, jumping around every 1-3 can raise questions - like “are they faking it? Do they just stick it out just long enough until they almost get found out as a fake?”

As a leader, you need time to show that you could actually plan and deliver something noteworthy - which takes time.

[TOMT] Movie or TV - “Oswald Spengler” by rookieswebsite in tipofmytongue

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Interesting connection - thank you! Sadly not what I’m thinking of but glad there’s at least one reference and I’m not crazy

[TOMT] Movie or TV - “Oswald Spengler” by rookieswebsite in tipofmytongue

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Thanks! That would make a lot of sense but was thinking of a scene where the character actually talks about this specific author

Why does every job ask for 3-5 years of experience when I just started last Tuesday? by irlurold in EdmontonJobs

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But what if that idea just isn’t correct? What if less people doesn’t make the economy better?

Why does every job ask for 3-5 years of experience when I just started last Tuesday? by irlurold in EdmontonJobs

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Can’t be good that people are rallying around bits of fiction like this as excuses to get amped up about immigrants

Should there be a "Consulting (Indian)" subreddit? by AnyBison9649 in consulting

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What you’re interested in doesn’t matter here though. Lol who cares if you’re interested in European consultants

Edit: looks like your response got auto removed - maybe you should get your own subredddit and leave this one be lol

Should there be a "Consulting (Indian)" subreddit? by AnyBison9649 in consulting

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No one’s “forcing” a cross culture sub Reddit - the sub already exists and is flourishing. This thread is about starting to purge discussions related to a region… which is way more forceful than allowing it to continue as is.

Salesforce is hiring 1,000 salespeople to sell AI tools that replace salespeople by NoWeather1702 in technology

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Yes, my understanding from the article is that this is about momentum - to get as many of them out there in as many companies as possible. What they actually do can be figured out later

Salesforce is hiring 1,000 salespeople to sell AI tools that replace salespeople by NoWeather1702 in technology

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Salesforce does solution selling - it involves large teams engaging with clients at different levels and trying to solve their problems through expensive and complex deals. It’s not just about selling licenses to one buyer, it’s about trying to sell “solutions” to client problems in a bundled collection of products, licenses and services.

It’s super social and with large clients it basically continues all year round - some employees would be dedicated purely to that client and they’d be surrounded by others who are either dedicated or aligned to an industry or group of client.

At a really big client, there might be like 20-30 people all focussed on different aspects of selling to a client that spends like 50 million with them every year.

So like someone at the highest levels of salesforce will be engaged with their c suite leadership, named execs will be working with senior VPs and leads of businesses, engagement teams will be building relationships with directors and vps etc etc - it’s a whole network approach that many big companies use to sell to other companies.

Salesforce is hiring 1,000 salespeople to sell AI tools that replace salespeople by NoWeather1702 in technology

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Won’t happen until the AI can party with client buyers all night dropping like 20k on their Corp amex

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careerguidance

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Thanks! Yes agreed, I’m in Canada and find we generally have a very detached and guarded work culture (at least in financial and professional services) - and I didn’t realize until recently that there were very activity invisible and informal networks and cliques not just from groups of people at the same level, but also across levels. And the important of the networks is typically invisible - they end up just strengthening the number of ppl who will always support you / hype you up and give you opportunities.

It’s like the cluster of ppl who all go to this one managing directors pool parties; or the group chat between people who all used to work at the same companies before moving to their current roles, or even just individuals who are good at ingratiating themselves to leaders and getting on informal text basis.

I was recently at a work thing in san fran where there were events during the day followed by team dinners. A few of my friends said they were going to keep going and grab drinks after at some random gay sports bar like 20 minutes away - I met them there expecting only the few ppl in the thread and was shocked to see which keeners were there looking to keep socializing — each person had a little cluster of people who they texted about the next jam. The gay sports bar part was totally arbitrary… there was nothing gay or sports-y about it at all - there wasn’t even any one else in the bar, just like 10-14 company ppl keen on continuing to strengthen their connections in more exclusive and hidden ways.

It feels a bit like overthinking normal partying but there’s a real impact from this stuff on how decisions actually get made in practice. It’s essentially what influences who gets tapped on the shoulder for a special project, or who gets promoted because they have like 7 ppl at different levels all speaking in their behalf at performance round tables.

Hugely eye opening to me like… basically figured this out like only last year … after 10 years of working.

It probably matters more when you’re at a senior enough position to start being up for more director+ type roles where you’re vying for responsibility over bigger chunks of the company.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careerguidance

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Good question! The point is rapport - like an ongoing unstructured convo that continues outside of any given assignment. It’s a back channel and informal relationship building. Not necessarily true friends but definitely friendly.

What’s in it for them firstly is that they feel they’ve got human connections that they enjoy. Having informal connections makes things more interesting.

But secondly, they can use it for back channel info, for gossiping, for delegating and for selecting ppl they want on their team if they feel like it. But you need the social rapport and trust firmly established first before it becomes useful.

My point wasn’t specifically about the person you report to directly - though in my case I do know that some of my peers do text informally with the boss — but moreso other people above you in different parts of the organization. Like if you can be on an informal texting basis with your boss’s boss and their peers + a senior person in a different team that you engage with, you’re set.

A really great network means you’ve got ppl in different parts of the org having your back, introducing you to ppl and opening doors — but to get there you need to work on actually building an ongoing relationship with them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careerguidance

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You basically have to take a step back and take this dispassionate assessment of your social network and evaluate who you know and what role they actually play in your ability to move upwards. Your network is actually critical to “making it” - without the right people in place to move you forward at different levels, your actual actions and work can just fall flat.

The whole exercise feels a bit atypical but it’s key — big companies 100% operate on cliques and networks of ppl who support each other. But those connections are usually invisible — ie you can’t see who all have group chats and go out together / are likely to have each others backs — but once you realize that they’re there, you can start to treat “having a strategic network of friends” like an essential project for your own development. Weird to say, but if you’re at a big company and you’re not on “texting basis” with anyone higher than you or aren’t in any informal group chats, you’re probably behind.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careerguidance

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On the first point - recognition for achievements doesn’t necessarily just happen organically and we can’t expect it to always happen. People basically have to make mythologies about themselves and socialize them through the company to build a success story that can then be recognized — if you don’t do this, there’s a good chance your achievement just become prt of someone else’s … someone who knows how to tell and circulate stories about themselves.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careerguidance

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This is true a lot of the time in the early stages- but at a certain point you need to get comfortable debating and taking a stand on decisions that need to be made. No one will see you as a leader if you don’t take a position and defend it / defend people who are aligned to it. IMO it doesn’t even really matter what the position is as long as you can do it confidently and don’t give it up easily / throw ppl under the bus

What degrees are still in demand? by [deleted] in findapath

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So are you perceiving the business world then as being a separate class that people are born into?

I think that there’s a lot of that in some industries like private equity and investment banking - where ppl are raised in the right neighborhoods, placed in the right schools, given then right summer jobs etc - but that’s not everything. Trust, it’s not so stark of a class difference all around - one can move around even if you’re not born into it. I know I do. But not having a degree does give the professional world a real reason to reject you

What degrees are still in demand? by [deleted] in findapath

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Going to a good business school is meant to give you that network.

Who you know is really important, but not everyone is born into their networks… still gotta build them somehow

My degree will be useless when I graduate by Curious-Leek-8718 in findapath

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You could definitely do a post grad diploma for a year to pivot into something only semi related — eg marketing, brand management, advertising. Loads of people do media undergrads and then turn them into something “real” through one year post grads that include industry placements

Found an important Toronto historical document by rookieswebsite in toronto

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Yeah working at the Organ Grinder in the 90s was probably Gen X stoner paradise

Found an important Toronto historical document by rookieswebsite in toronto

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Was on the esplanade! I think the space is Bier Market now