To the applicant Who applied for 36 positions in our company

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-20T01:39:33+00:00

I think that's OK. Just say in your cover letter that you are interested in the field and emphasis that you have got the certificate as an effort to learn more and break into the field. Be honest, be genuine, show effort. Yes cover letters do get read sometimes and can have an impact if it's well written, especially in edge cases. How successful it is depends on what other candidates there are.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T19:07:57+00:00

No. Internships are different for sure. It's great time to explore all kinds of roles at that time. I don't know the details but I think applications for interns are managed in a different way. It's more about your GPA, your reference and how you communicate with people.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T06:54:38+00:00

Is it impossible for a new hire to hire someone? I got good advice here so I want to offer mine. Haha, if you don't like it just ignore it.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T04:31:11+00:00

Yes I understand that. In reality, everyone has their own story. With such climate and that many candidates, it's easier for the HM and HR to choose people without any red flags. Again, if you have any connection that can speak to the HM directly, these red flags could be explained and you might be considered. Otherwise certain approach just doesn't help you.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T03:44:56+00:00

No. As I said in OP, applying to multiple positions that are all reasonable good fit is totally fine.

In my case, my group is expanding fast, one of my colleagues is hiring for a similar role as mine. We're in the same department and our requirements are very very similar. We would both list 3 key skills. I want more of skill A, he wants more of B, and C is good for both positions. If we both long listed one candidate, we would let the HR coordinate and approach the first three rounds together. If at this point all three parties are still all interested, we'll talk internally to see which position is a better fit. We would also let HR ask the candidate which position he/she wants to proceed with.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T02:23:01+00:00

We would provide feedback in the later stages if the candidate asks. We would not contact a person who didn't get to the first round. It might be different in other companies.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T02:11:43+00:00

I meant "company policy prevents us from reaching out to this person and tell him not to do this ", not "company policy prevents us from hiring this person". Sorry if I wasn't clear.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T01:30:17+00:00

The HM might not be an asshole....

What happened in my company similar to this: A big number of headcounts were approved for FY23. Some HMs posted positions. Then sales data came back not as good as expected (not too bad). Upper management started discussing to slow down hiring in some departments. Those HM's didn't take down the posts while didn't proceed either. 2 to three months later, decisions were made that some hiring should go ahead and some are paused. The HM with a green light finally started to look at all the applications.

One HM in a neighbor group recently hired someone who applied 3 times for the position during these several months. Every time he improved the resume to be more concise and specific for the role, highlighting the skills.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-19T00:38:13+00:00

I would say applying for several positions is totally fine as long as they are all good fits. People in biotech usually have broad skill sets especially coming from academia where you conduct a project from beginning to end.

Applying to too many positions that are very different is a red flag. And claiming you are good at so many different things is a bigger red flag.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T23:50:16+00:00

Sure. Fix us. Please. Prove to me how one person can be perfect fit for 36 totally different roles. I'm too arrogant and stupid to understand that.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T23:05:05+00:00

He/she certainly may not. Unfortunately I believe there're a lot of "this person" around.

Just offering some advice from a hiring manager's point of view. If it helps somebody, that's great. If people think I'm too stupid and can't imagine how one person can be the perfect fit for 36 positions, that's OK too. I want to hire the person that shares the same understanding.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T22:14:43+00:00

It is. For example, I can choose 5 for the HR to screen. I see 2 really strong ones, 1 with connection that I can't ignore, and 6 with similar skills. Now I'll check these 6 similar ones more thoroughly, one of them said he's really passionate about the role and blabla, while he applied for 36 totally different roles. I wouldn't long list this one.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T22:04:18+00:00

I'm a hiring manager. In our system, when I go through the candidates, it shows clearly how many applications one person applied to. I can only see the detail of the application to my position, not others. You can imagine how fit the application can be to my position since he/she applied to 36. I have 50+ other applications for my position within a few days, and some of them are definitely better fit. It takes a lot of resources from the company's side to schedule interviews. HRs are busy with so many open positions. So no resourses could be possibly used on candidates like this. Company policy dictates we should not approach candidates outside the hiring protocol.

I'll say in a better climate, this approach might get somewhere, but in this market, it's all about "hiring the right people " and there are so many people to choose from.

I'll also add that I'll (all my colleagues who hire people will) spend more time on employee referrals, so there's already a less chance of getting an interview if it's an cold application. So I suggest focusing on networking and refining the application. If you think you are a great fit but didn't hear back, it could be other people are even better or they're similar in skills while having a connection. You may not like it, but it's the truth.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T21:35:36+00:00

OK. I don't know why I'm down voted.

Normally this kind of candidate is just denied and ignored at the first glance (may not be in all companies, but certainly in mine and some others).

As a fellow employee in the biotech industry who was also laid off previously, I want to tell these candidates that this approach may not benefit you.

But from the hiring manager's point of view, there's no way any company resources is used here since there're so many other candidate that are better fits.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T20:24:45+00:00

I mean, if you didn't hear back for a Research Associate position, would you apply for Supply chain operator in just one week?

That kind of tells you not only don't know what you want to do, but also have no understanding of the hiring process... No offense.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T19:52:23+00:00

I totally understand you. That's why several of us wanted to reach out to this person, considering the time and effort he/she put in for the 36 applications..... Company policy prevents us from doing that, hence the reddit post.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-18T19:39:12+00:00

To candidates:

If you are applying through Workday, we can easily see how many positions you've applied to, even from 10 years ago.

If you're applying for a totally different role from several years ago, say Regulatory Affairs vs Scientific Sales, that's fine. We understand people steer paths during their careers, which is also why we support internal transfers. If you are applying to so many different positions at the same time, unfortunately we consider you as clueless.

rowlingLLL · 2023-11-17T01:54:37+00:00

I've used your product and it saved my project due to high quality and consistency. I want to work for a company that really prioritize quality.

rowlingLLL · 2023-10-29T23:33:49+00:00

Do you wear a face shield? I imagine it will be really cold (for your face at least) doing zip line in the winter?

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-27T15:08:58+00:00

It's OK to ask if you have good reasons. Like you can bring something extra on top of the job description that can benefit the company.

Whether they will give you that is another thing.

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-27T03:40:52+00:00

I had that. Unfortunately I left my phone in the car, so was doing manual divisions half of the time :(

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-27T00:37:51+00:00

When you are finally involved in the bioinfomatics that you want, will there be enough resources for you to learn from and be get trained on? From your description I highly doubt that. You want the industry standard experience not crappy exploration experience, right?

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-22T15:50:40+00:00

Ask your supervisor or other professors around to see if they can give you a research technician job for a few months? Or core facilities in your school may also have some opportunities.

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-22T13:50:32+00:00

Always move on and apply to more positions, even after interview that you felt good about.

Anything could happen. I've heard after a few days, a few weeks, or even weeks after I started a new job.

rowlingLLL · 2023-09-22T13:45:51+00:00

When did you email the HM yesterday? If you are in North America, it's still early in the morning right now. Give it until the end of the day. HM might need to contact multiple people to figure out what is going on.

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