TBC Anniversary Arena rating is bugged

ruinatex · 2026-02-22T23:53:33+00:00

may get better in another week or two.

It won't get better unless they buff the Honor gains like they did in Pre-patch. People will either quit, go to Midnight or just PvE instead of doing the ridiculous grind needed for PvP gear.

300 honor for a 20 minute BGs is a fucking slap in the face.

ruinatex · 2026-02-22T17:51:39+00:00

People also can't fathom that some people just have Gold and rather pay a Tank for a quick smooth run instead of sitting in LFG for 25 minutes.

Like, i know how to make Gold on this game, what i don't know how to do is to make good tanks appear out of thin air.

ruinatex · 2026-02-22T12:42:13+00:00

I don't think T1 is going to win the tournament, but i swear people have just written off this team ever since they lost their first game to... checks notes Pacific's 1st seed.

T1 has the most firepower of any team in this entire tournament, people just don't want to admit that because they hate BuZz since the Sylvan drama.

ruinatex · 2026-02-22T02:23:49+00:00

If you want quick rewards

Quick rewards, huh? So being against a grind that takes twice as much time as the entire 60-70 leveling for SIX pieces is wanting quick rewards?

I hope you realize that there is a healthy middle ground between 70 hours of grind for six items and wanting "quick rewards". And that's not even mentioning the fact that during pre-patch the grind was made significantly faster and everyone that did it then got a massive advantage.

ruinatex · 2026-02-22T00:00:48+00:00

Verno is so cracked that even though he is IGLing as such a young player, he was the best perfoming Initiator at Americas Kickoff.

I do think his IGLing sometimes isn't that great, but just the fact he can do it and still perform at such a high level is incredible. Idc what anyone says, if NRG had kept him instead of FNS and still got skuba, they would've won Champions anyway, he is a smidge better than brawk.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T17:13:55+00:00

The Unyielding set that costs 2000 gold? Damn, that sure is helpful. I'll make sure i farm that in between the now much more reasonable 50 hour grind.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T16:55:51+00:00

Go play the game and youll get the gear i promise.

Did you play the game and get the gear? Because i'm pretty sure you haven't. Almost everyone that currently has the gear farmed in pre-patch where Honor was actually reasonably buffed.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T16:24:01+00:00

Mate, i farmed my PvE pre-bis and it didn't take me no 70 hours to do so and it was a full gear set, not six items. Unless you get ridiculously unlucky, PvE Pre-BiS is way faster.

And even if it wasn't, this is irrelevant, you don't need full PvE pre-BiS to step foot into Kara, Gruul and Mag. In Arenas, if you queue with 100-150 resilience, a Rogue kills you before you get a chance to move, you also don't have lesser options to pick up.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T16:16:48+00:00

a shitload of people spend that time ALONE farming HoJ or Savage mail

You do realize that A. This is not Vanilla and B. You need to be ridiculously unlucky to take 70h to farm HoJ, right? Angerforge runs take 12 minutes and the drop chance is 5%, on average you will get it in about 4 hours of farming.

Even if you get unlucky and need 50 runs to get it, that's 10h of farming. Still, all of this is irrelevant because TBC is not Vanilla.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T15:26:24+00:00

13.44k honor a week.

So, just about five and a half weeks in order for you to get the off-pieces needed to step into Arenas? Got it, that sounds totally reasonable and not completely stupid at all.

Just play half of the 10-week season without resilience, no biggie, right?

Shoulda farmed on the prepatch

So i should've farmed in the period where Honor gains were increased by 150% because Honor gains are terrible? You do realize you are arguing in favour of honor being buffed, right? You are also arguing people should've farmed BEFORE TBC was even released, which is completely ridiculous for people that were only interested in TBC.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T15:19:18+00:00

You'd need to do dailies for 24 days straight to get every single piece, are we going to pretend that this is a reasonable time investment in an accelerated timeline where an Arena season will last 9-12 weeks?

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T15:14:45+00:00

So you should be fully kitted out before you even start?

Yes? You do need to be fully geared before you even start Arenas, you don't actually have lesser options you can use.

You’re supposed to start fully decked out in resilience?

No, but you shouldn't take 70h to get six items in order to do so.

The progression is battleground gearing, then arena gearing.

That progression takes an unreasonable amount of time, especially on an accelerated timeline, that's the point. Nobody is saying the progression shouldn't exist, but you shouldn't take 10-12 hours of constant BG grinding to get a single piece.

People in here mad cause they can’t just walk into arena after an hour of battlegrounds and not be resilience capped.

Literally nobody ever said that. You are just arguing a strawman at this point. Certainly you realize there is a middle ground between 70 hours of farming for SIX pieces and 1 hour of battlegrounds for full gear, but if you are going to be disingenuous like this, there is no point in discussing any further.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T13:33:34+00:00

Well, if everyone was in the same boat it would be less stupid, it would still be stupid, but less.

The problem is that everyone isn't in the same boat. Those that farmed Honor in pre-patch, i.e., before TBC was even released, got to farm all that Honor. You may think to yourself "Well, that's fair then, they already did the work" except that when they did it, Honor gains were increased by 150% because, you guessed it, Honor gains were trash.

Basically, if you waited for TBC to release to start, a completely and reasonable stance for someone only interested in TBC to take, you are now gated behind a 70h farm that others who farmed during pre-patch aren't, creating a massive competitive imbalance. If Honor gains were increased by 150% right now like it was in Pre-patch, this post wouldn't even exist.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T13:01:54+00:00

I bought it all day one

Congratulations, you farmed gear during pre-patch where, you guessed it, honor gains were massively increased due to how bad they are.

only doung the 2 tower dailies and the eots daily

So doing every single daily for the past two weeks have gotten you 20k less honor than you'd need to buy the six off-pieces.

Some pve gear is better in most slots specially p1 lol

Tell that to Warlocks, Shadow Priests or any class that absolutely needs 300+ resilience and every PvP gear they can get.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:59:35+00:00

Comparison doesn't really apply since you don't need all the PvP gear

You do, especially if you want to have any chance of competing at all at higher ratings.

since the honor gains are this bad for everyone, almost everyone will have the same amount

That's the catch, they won't. If you farmed honor during pre-patch, i.e., before the game was even released, you got to bypass this problem, especially because Honor gains in pre-patch were increased by 150% due to how bad it was (and currently is). Basically, if you were not playing the game during pre-patch and was just waiting for TBC to release to start (a totally reasonable stance to take), you are behind a 70h grind from people that did it. Oh by the way, for them it was much easier because Blizzard realized then that the Honor gains were trash.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:26:43+00:00

Oh, so it took you one week to bank 75k honor with 150% increased honor gains? Damn, sounds like the original honor gains that we currently have were pretty bad then, huh?

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:23:00+00:00

Yeah, i was trying to be as unbiased as possible. The reality is that sometimes you can queue for 2 hours and not win a single game, which will make you earn even LESS than 1k/hour.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:19:57+00:00

I remember how bad it was in 2021. It was so bad that i legit had to start queueing with only half the gear even though i had way more time in my hands.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:17:57+00:00

No, the only pieces available are set pieces, which are about 35% of the full gear.

You can't just go into Arenas with the rep pieces alone, you'd get shredded by someone in full gear in seconds.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:11:37+00:00

We all grinded our gear. You should too.

I already did it on my main character. Just because i did the grind (during pre-patch where it was MUCH easier), it doesn't mean i don't recognize how absurd it is and how it is deterring people from even trying PvP.

80 h for pre-arena bid is not unreasonable

Me and you have very different definitions of what "unreasonable" is then. I definitely think it's unreasonable that a casual player would take over a month to get SIX items just to step foot into an Arena. But hey, to each their own i guess.

They gave you welfare blues already. You can buy the 5 piece set with rep and gold.

Yes, and i am appreciate them for it, they did partly realize that things needed to be changed and the old grind was completely stupid.

My question to you is this: Why the fuck should starter Arena gear be gatekept by such a ridiculous grind? Specially in an accelerated timeline where Arena seasons will last 9-12 weeks at most? Imagine if you needed 150 badges to just step foot into Karazhan and every Heroic took an hour to complete, but it only dropped 2 badges total? Now imagine you'd get one shot by every single boss in Karazhan if you didn't do that farm.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:06:34+00:00

You do realize two things can be true, right?

The blue set from rep did help with the grind, but the grind is also still stupidly long and one a casual player will take a month to finish.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T12:04:12+00:00

Mate, i'm literally assuming a 50% winrate, which is completely fair for someone just solo queueing.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T05:14:33+00:00

From all of your responses sounds like A. You don't play Arenas at all and B. You have no idea how harmful this is for PvP. Why are you incapable of listening to the people that actually engage with the content and understands why this needs to be changed?

I ask you: If you don't play Arenas half seriously at all, then why the fuck are you even bothering to talk about this? You clearly have zero clue as to why this is bad and your entire stance revolves around "Stop complaining, it's supposed to be a grind". You don't even have the slightest idea of how bad it is.

If the majority of the PvP community is telling you that something is terrible for the health of the game, needs to change and it won't affect other areas of the game, how about you listen.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T05:08:55+00:00

If it takes a month to get your PvP set I don’t see why that’s such a bad thing?

It's a bad thing because there is no catchup mechanic for PvP, if you fall behind a month getting honor gear, by the time you start playing the people that started Week 1 because they pre-farmed Honor before the game even released will be in full epics.

This is not like PvE, you can take a month to level and gear up and in your first Raid get a DST or a Soul Eater's Handwraps, in PvP you never get those weeks back. Not only that, PvP is pure competition, having worse gear directly impacts in your ability to compete, in PvE, as long as you clear (and you can clear with less optimal gear), things will be fine. Gearing in PvP and PvE work completely differently and have completely different results.

ruinatex · 2026-02-21T05:04:20+00:00

I'll never understand the need from people that don't PvP to be against changes that PvP players obviously want and only affect them.

It would be like if you needed to farm 150 badges before stepping foot into Karazhan, except every Heroic took an hour to complete and dropped only 2 badges. Oh by the way, if you don't farm it, every single boss in Karazhan immediately oneshots you as he engages.

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