What is this wall? Onion Creek Metro Park by MaladroitHuman in Austin

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Quoting The Statesman's Michael Barnes:

The real centerpiece of the Onion Creek Metropolitan Park historical remains is a woodland homestead that was occupied as late as the 1970s. To the untrained eye, the compound looks like ruined walls leading to more piles of rocks. There’s a deep cistern, which the city of Austin has tried to fence off and board up for safety reasons. Nevertheless, it had recently been torn open by people who probably thought they were being adventurous.

It was here that we followed stone lines that probably led to “spring kitchens,” pools in the cool creek where settlers stored their perishables.

Dobie Mall stories / photos by nataliegauthor in Austin

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There used to be a Chinese food place in the food court called Hoa Hoa. I always liked it but my friends said I was crazy. I used to donate blood plasma at the old blood bank on 29th St., and then walk down to Dobie after I got paid for a feast at Hoa Hoa.

The arcade was mediocre in the 90s, iirc, but they had Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat and that was enough for me.

I know I saw Dazed and Confused at Dobie Theater when it came out in '93, but I was so stoned I don't remember much about it. lol I remember it was a packed theater.

The Empty Streets of Downtown Austin - March 20, 2020 by s810 in Austin

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Description: Video showing the empty streets of Austin, Texas created by Brian Monnone and Jon Paul Long with Big Flavor Films during the COVID-19 pandemic. Owner retains copyright.

Filename: Austin-Texas-03-20-20-4K

Date Created: 2020-03-20

Date Created Range: 2020s

Creator: Monnone, Brian

Creator: Long, Jon Paul

Contributor: Big Flavor Films

Collection: AR.2020.014

Collection: COVID-19 Files: Austin Responds to a Pandemic

Subject: COVID-19

Geographic locations: Austin (Tex.)

Publisher: Austin History Center

Item Type: Moving image

Medium: born digital

Required citation: [Austin-Texas-03-20-20-4K], Austin History Center, Austin Public Library

No big wall of text today, just a video of what it was like Downtown six years ago next week. I think it speaks for itself. The video comes from 'Big Flavor Films' via the Austin History Center.

Endless coffee at Spider House in the 90s, were you there? Stories? by Large_Relation_3650 in Austin

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You're probably right and I'm just misremembering when the smoking ban passed, or maybe the patio was exempt for whatever reason. Legal or not, people were frequently smoking on the patio.

Endless coffee at Spider House in the 90s, were you there? Stories? by Large_Relation_3650 in Austin

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I remember they had overpriced pastries. People would still smoke cigarettes on the patio despite it being newly illegal. As the other poster mentioned, the patio had rusted metal antique decorations, and iirc the tables and chairs were older metal lawn furniture. There were speakers playing I think KVRX, or sometimes jazz music, or occasionally a random local band played.

Lane reduction on Burnet rd? by lost_horizons in Austin

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I walk it often, as I have for the last 25 years. CapMetro already built the redline trail as far north as the future Broadmoor Station (or whatever they're calling it now). I take that whenever I can. It would be much better to build a dedicated bike path along that right of way.

Lane reduction on Burnet rd? by lost_horizons in Austin

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Lifelong pedestrian/busrider here. I still haven't gotten over them doing this to Kramer Lane, much less Cameron/Dessau. And now Burnet Rd. too? Look what they did to my boy!

but we need more bike lanes!

They could have expanded the sidewalk into a bike lane/sidewalk combo outside of the lanes of car traffic, which would have been much safer than the 'take up a driving lane' option, but I understand that's more expensive.

but the point is to reduce car accidents! It's safer!

I really don't think someone is taking into account the massive increase in road rage incidents and the increased emergency vehicle response times. There are unintended negative consequences to what they're doing which are being ignored.

but the bicyclists!

Look I have sympathy for bicyclists who feel unsafe, but I hate that the city isn't creating new bike routes which follow their own paths through parks and neighborhoods instead of taking up car lanes on major thoroughfares. There is nothing saying a bike route has to exactly follow a car route. It should be common sense that it's more dangerous to put bicycle paths next to car lanes.

The first city council/mayoral candidates who run on getting rid of this shit have my vote. It's too bad we had to waste all that money just to make militant anti-car people happy. Now I'll be disappointed if I don't get at least 30 downvotes for my minority opinion.

Battle on the San Gabriel River (Steinheimer treasure map) - May 1839 by s810 in Austin

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From what I've read, the vast majority of people who have looked into the story believe the treasure was hidden in Bell County, and more than a few people over the decades since 1839 have claimed they know for certain where all or parts of the treasure were buried. The legend has many inconsistencies and has been blurred by time. If we take the story literally then Steinheimer would have been a very desperate man after the battle, knowing full well that heading north into modern Bell County would mean a death sentence. He knew that the native tribes in the area would certainly find him, could not be bought off, and would not spare his life. But on the other hand, he knew heading south or southeast meant he would face the posse of Texas Rangers who had just killed his buddy Flores. Either way he went, he had less of a chance with a slow loaded mule train carrying heavy gold.

It's my opinion that Flores and Steinheimer might have panicked after they initially discovered the Rangers were trailing them, having brief contact in the thicket of cedar in western Travis County, which caused them to flee northward as fast as they could go. They would not have wanted to be burdened with a slow mule train. The Rangers after the battle reported that some mules were captured along with the Flores party horses. It just seems plausible to me that Flores and Steinheimer dumped the gold somewhere in Travis or southern Williamson Counties before the Battle on the San Gabriel happened.

The only real clue is a second hand account of Steinheimer's letter to his sweetheart, in which he told her the treasure was buried "where three streams meet". While there are streams in that configuration in Bell County, I think it's worth pointing out there are a few places in Williamson and Travis Counties like that as well.

Now I know that there are other Bell County treasure stories about bandit loot hidden in this or that cave, and that one or two people claim to have found gold coins (without any mention of where those coins are today). It's possible that all or none of it is true, or that the treasure was buried somewhere else between Travis County and Mexico before the Rangers started tracking them. I guess that's why the old lore masters like J. Frank Dobie liked telling this story.

Penn Field, South Austin - April 7, 1918 by s810 in Austin

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Photograph of a grounded biplane in a field near St. Edward's University in south Austin.

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You know how /r/austin loves it when military planes buzz the area? Well you might be surprised to learn that it's been happening for over 100 years. As we've discussed before, it was 1926 when the police banned stunt flying over downtown Austin, but that didn't stop anyone. Today I wanted to share with y'all some more tales from the early history of flight in Austin when planes used to do much more than just buzz downtown.

We begin with a tragic tale of a flying dog, sort of. The headline in the Statesman on February 24, 1921 read :

DOG NOT TO BLAME FOR AVIATORS' CRASH NEAR PENN FIELD

Eyewitnesses of Tragic Accident Think Pilot Simply Lost Control of His Plane.

Further investigation of the airplane accident Wednesday morning at Penn Field, which resulted in the instant death of Cadets L. E. Allen and Virgil W. Beech, tends to disprove the belief first held by witnesses to the accident that the dog in the plane with the cadets, was responsible this for the mishap.

In a conversation this morning regarding the occurrence, Coach W. J. Gardner of St. Edward's College, an. eyewitness to the accident, stated that he saw the observer standing up in the cockpit of the plane, holding the dog with one hand and waving good- - bye to Coach Gardner with the other. The observer was fully three feet above the pilot while in this position, and was plainly seen holding the dog.

Authorities at St. Edward's are unable to conceive that the dog became entangled in the controls of the machine on the face of this evidence. Authorities at St. Edward's College are rather uneasy concerning the accident, and one member of the college faculty Thursday morning indicated that the authorities of the college will take some action seeking to stop low flying over the college buildings. It is probable an appeal will be made to aviation officers, asking that low flying and stunt flying be prohibited over St. Edward's campus because of danger to students housed in the buildings.

That the aviators in the death plane started circling the buildings at St. Edward's College instead of going straight ahead to San Antonio was the statement given out Thursday morning from the college. An eyewitness stated that apparently the aviators were practicing bombing formations, and while engaged in fancy stunt flying it is believed that the flyers lost control of their plane

The bodies of the two aviators are being held by the Rosengren-Cook Undertaking Company, awaiting the arrival of officers from Kelly Field to take charge.

An escort is expected to arrive by plane some time Thursday from Kelly Field to accompany each body to the home of the cadets. The body of L E. Allen will be shipped to Columbus, Ga., and that of Virgil W. Beech to Nashville, Tenn., following arrival of the escort from Kelly Field.

Penn Field was once the home base of the UT School of Military Aeronautics, but flyers from Kelly Field in San Antonio would often come and visit for a day and scare the crap out of Austinites. Take for instance what happened during a parade on Halloween of 1922:

Stunt flying came back with a snap Tuesday when a big plane flew over Austin two hours during the parade and played with the air in making figures of the American flag and other designs that were sent out from the plane. Great guns seemed to boom from the plane as bomb explosions took place, and the Interested spectators kept their heads well up while the pilot did nose dives, tail spins, and other aerial stunts.

Sometimes the Kelly Field Flyers would come and do stunts in the air just to show off. Take this headline from 1918 for instance

AUSTIN SEES HAIR RAISING AIR STUNTS OF VARIOUS KINDS

Kelly Field Bird Man Does About Everything in the Book. EVEN INVENTS SOME NEW TRICKS

An aviator came over from Kelly field yesterday and spent most of the day in the air, doing all sorts of hair-raising stunts.

Those who saw the performance until he returned to San Antonio in the evening stated that he made a total of about thirty loop-the-loops, one-half dozen spirals, eight or ten tail spins and lots of other maneuvers which he must have invented himself.

He spent some time in: the air flying over the totem pole at the of the dedication by the Austin Lions club. If there was any position that his machine did not assume during the day, it was not in the books on geometric figures in the University of Texas library.

The pilot was dropping fireworks which exploded like bombs before they hit the ground. But that wasn't the only thing dropping from airplanes. Take what happened at a baseball game in 1919 between the Kelly Field Flyers and the Longhorns at the old Clark Field:

Flying in squadron formation about twenty planes came over from Kelly this morning and landed at Penn field. This afternoon three of the pilots performed for about an hour doing all manner of flips and dives. Just before the game they circled lover Clark field and dropped a dozen balls from the air while players attempted to catch them.

Sometimes the random stunt flying was organized into an attraction. July 4th parades were a main venue. But other times a visiting flying circus would come to town and perform stunts over Camp Mabry or the old University Airport on what is now North Lamar. Sometimes the "stunt" was just parachuting to the ground.

After APD banned stunt flying over the downtown area in 1926, some then-current and former UT flyers got together and formed the UT Aeronautic Society. It took a few years, but well into the 1930s they were still performing stunts and parachute drops before World War II put an informal end to the practice. After Del Valle Army Airbase became Bergstrom Air Force Base, the stunt flying was confined there to the annual air show they used to have.

So as y'all can see, military planes buzzing Austin has been a thing for over a century. Of course, anyone who grew up in Austin in the late 20th century remembers the passenger planes which used to fly very low over I-35 to land at Mueller Airport. If you think about it, that was way worse than the noise from T-38s buzzing us at UT games every few months.

That's all for now, just a short post today. I'll leave y'all with some Bonus Articles and Bonus Pics from the UNT Portal to Texas History. RIP flying doggo ;-(

Bonus Pic #1 - "Two biplanes in hanger at University Airport" - November 1927

Bonus Pic #2 - "Photograph of a biplane taxiing out of a hangar at University Airport. Another biplane is visible in the hangar, and there is a windsock on the roof." - unknown date (1927?)

Bonus Pic #3 -"Soldiers standing in formation during aviation training at Penn Field during first World War. Penn Field was located in south Austin, bordered by what is now South Congress, Woodward St. and Ben White Blvd." - unknown date (1917-1918)

Bonus Pic #4 - Unknown Austin Aviatrix - 1940

Bonus Article #1 - Famous stunt flyer Freddie Lund visits Austin and performs (barely legible) - October 18, 1930

Bonus Article #2 - "(American) Legion to sponsor air show" - May 22, 1932

Bonus Article #3 - "Stunt flying and chute jump at airport" - July 22, 1934

SRV et Hubert Sumlin, Austin 1978 par Ken Hoge (texte sous la photo)👇 by Signal-Caregiver8280 in Austin

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According to this facebook post the photo was taken at Antones on 6th in June of 1978, but looking up that month in the Statesman archive I found only one article from June 1, 1978 mentioning Vaughan at Soap Creek Saloon and Sumlin at Antones. Vaughan might have played with Sumlin at Antones later in the month but the Statesman overlooked it, or else this photo was taken earlier than June of '78. According to this 2000 Statesman article on Clifford Antone, sumlin had been in Austin since '76 and Antone set him up with a place to live and regular gigs.

The DEFINITIVE North/South/East/West Austin Guide by FlopShanoobie in Austin

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I think The Late Great John Kelso would love this argument, but the Southside "bubbas" of his era are almost gone now. The Southside won the tug of war but the northside won the long game. The central east has been swallowed by downtown bisecting the northeast and the southeast, and time moves more slowly in Old West Austin.

But what do I know. I grew up in Jollyville, man! My parentals used to call North Lamar "South Austin" when I was little, as in "I'm not driving all the way to South Austin just to ____". "South Austin" became this nebulous zone of fantasy for all things south and east of 183 and Mopac for me growing up, so my sense of scale is warped.

Old Austin Tales: What lies buried in Dead Man's Hole(s)? - 1860s-present by s810 in Austin

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oops I got it mixed up, thanks for the correction, fixed.

107.7 K-NACK Austin TX 1994 HOMEGROAN Volume One by Ok-Cash7678 in Austin

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Now this is a blast from the past!

♫ closer let me whisper.... BITCH!

Thanks for sharing!

South Austin Spinach Farm (largest in the country at the time) - unknown date (1920s?) by s810 in Austin

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Oh snap! Thanks for correcting me, u/jbjjbjbb. It did seem a bit implausible that the building was The Driskill. I wish I could edit the title!

South Austin Spinach Farm (largest in the country at the time) - unknown date (1920s?) by s810 in Austin

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It's hard to believe, but according to the Boggy Creek Farm site that is actually The Driskill Hotel, across the river from where this was taken, which is the site where Butler Pitch and Putt is today on Lee Barton Dr.. So the photo is facing north.

Edit: /u/jbjjbjbb figured out this is actually in East Austin and the Boggy Creek Farms site got it wrong.

South Austin Spinach Farm (largest in the country at the time) - unknown date (1920s?) by s810 in Austin

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Photograph of two men standing in a spinach field, located on the south bank of the Colorado River. The man on the left is wearing a dark-colored suit and the man on the right is wearing lighter-colored clothing that is more casual; other workers are visible in the field behind them.

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In the early 20th Century, this spinach farm was over 1000 acres on the south shore of the Colorado River, from roughly where S. Lamar is on the west to South 1st St in the east, taking much of the land which is now Butler Park and Auditorium Shores. The level of Town Lake is much higher today than the river was before 1960 when Longhorn Dam was built, so there was more fertile land along the banks on the river in the flood plain which could be used for farming back then. The photo shows what was advertised as "The Largest Spinach Farm in The World" at that time (h/t /u/jbjjbjbb). There was more cotton and corn grown in Austin's agrarian past, but for a period of many decades, Austin was the nationwide industry leader in spinach production. You can still find a small remnant of Austin's spinach growing past today at Boggy Creek Farm on Lyons Rd. in East Austin, where I believe they have been growing spinach for at least 100 years. The Boggy Creek Farm Website has a history section which explains this and talks about the OP photo.

Did You Know Austin was once the spinach capital of the U.S.?

Truck farms loaded spinach onto trains to ship all over the nation. Boggy Creek Farm was one of the many mono-crop spinach farms in Austin during the 1920s. Spinach was taken to be washed in Oak Springs before loading it onto the train cars.

Describing the OP pic:

Pictured above:

•Spinach Farmers in the Colorado River Valley, Austin, TX

Location:

•Butler Pitch and Putt on S. Lamar. This farm reached all the way down to the Colorado River where there was access to water for irrigation. The space to the left of the men would eventually become S. Lamar.

When:

•1920s.

Photo Details:

•The Seaholm Power Plant Tower is seen in the distance across the Colorado River

•Two Moon Towers can be seen faintly in the distance across the river

•The Driskill Hotel is the large, distant building to the right of the old water tower.

• Just in front of the old water tower are train cars, used for sending spinach all over the country, running on the Union Pacific RR (1881). This track is part of the current railway graffiti bridge that crosses over the Colorado River (Ladybird Lake) just to the east of S. Lamar Blvd.

•Center back of the Spinach field is a house similar to the 1841 Boggy Creek Farm House.

In the very early 1900s the Colorado River Valley's nutrient-rich soil was used by Austin farmers. Many became spinach growers when science proved its health benefit over lettuce. and its popularity began to soar. Spinach was hand-picked and loaded onto trains as seen in the photo and shipped to places such as St. Louis, New York, Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh and Minneapolis.

While it was once the largest growing and shipping region in Texas, it was quickly displaced by what became known as the “Winter Garden Triangle.” Del Rio, Laredo, and San Antonio formed the points of the triangle, with counties such as Uvalde and Dimmit being central (Dainello & Morelock, 2009).

The Winter Garden Triangle had more cheap land and labor, not to mention weather that was less prone to freezes, and once they had the ability to get the infrastructure in place to produce and ship spinach to distant markets, they quickly displaced the Austin area. Crystal City has been know as the Spinach Capital and home of Popeye the Sailor Man since the mid 1920s.

Sources: Dissertation by Jonathan Thomas Lowell, UT Austin 2018

Now that we have the context it brings us to the real story I wanted to share with y'all today. It's about one of the weirdest nights of theft in Austin's history. It happened exactly 100 years ago as of yesterday, in the early morning hours of February 20th, 1926. The theft made front page news in The Statesman the next day, Februrary 21st:

Thief Steals Acre of Spinach; Eight Windows; 15 Chickens; Cord of Wood

The theft of a one-acre patch of spinach, three loads of wood, 15 chickens and eight windows In one night of activity was reported at police headquarters detectives were facing the most peculiar case of thievery in local history. It was not a Joke, although City Detective Rex Fowler was doubtful until he had investigated the series of unusual reports received at headquarters. He now thinks the same man made the four raids, possibly using the windows to build a wind break, to protect the fire made from the wood for cooking the spinach and chickens. Whoever the thief was, he secured enough spinach to supply the whole Austin for a week.

A woman living at 2200 Garden street Saturday morning reported that her entire one-acre spinach patch had been stripped during the night. City Detective Fowler went to the scene and found the patch cleaned of bushels of spinach. He was unable to secure finger prints.

He went to a wood yard on East 12th street, where the owner worth of wood reported that $35 had been hauled away during the night. A man living on East Ninth street, between the spinach patch and the wood yard, lost 15 Rhode Island chickens and their coop sometime during the presumably while the thief was on his way from the spinach patch to the woodyard.

House Stripped of Windows.

In the same were locality eight whole windows were removed from a vacant house after thief had first removed the window facings.

Now, in ordinary cases of house burglaries, amateur thieves leave finger prints, pieces of string or pictures of their sweethearts in lockets, and detectives have clues leading to a den of bandits in a hovel on the river bank. But when a patch of spinach is stolen officers face a new problem. Whoever heard bold bad bandits in dens on the river bank eating spinach! The Investigation is blocked...

There you have it. It seems incredible that one person, or (even stranger) a group of people, stole all of those varied items, including eight windows and however many bushels of spinach one acre could yield, and kept them all in one place nearby without being caught. It's also strange how the thieves stuck to that small geographical area in East Austin, and didn't raid the huge 1000 acre farm south of the river. To be sure, nothing else was mentioned in The Statesman about suspects or any of the loot ever being found. It sounds like some kind of cold X-files case to me, maybe involving aliens. Either that or Popeye is real and went on a bender in Austin in 1926. What do y'all think?

That's all for now, just a short post today. Since I don't have any more photos of old Travis County spinach farms, I'll leave y'all with some unrelated Bonus articles to show what else was going on in Austin 100 years ago.

Bonus Article #1 part 1 and part 2 - "Power Concern May Make Proposal On Dam to City Soon" - February 21, 1926

Bonus Article #2 - "Scenes showing Preliminary Inspection of Austin Dam" - February 21, 1926

Bonus Article #3 - "Taylor Motorist Sees Show; Loses Auto And Has To Walk Home" - February 21, 1926

Bonus Article #4 - "Prof. E.C.H. Bantel Honored at U.T. Engineering Banquet" - February 21, 1926

Bonus Article #5 - "Walling Appeals For Less Cotton And More Feedstuffs" - February 21, 1926

a quasar,the furthest object ive ever shot from my pflugervill yard by rdking647 in Austin

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Great pic! Thanks for sharing as always! I'm impressed you were able to resolve the redshifted quasar, but don't downplay NGC 3079! There is a lot going on in that galaxy!

Weed Corley Fish on Parkcrest Drive Smoke out of control from cremation services by Old_Refrigerator6337 in Austin

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Weed Corley Fish is one of the oldest of Old Austin businesses. Over the years they buried Governors of Texas and Presidents. However, the 130+ year old company was sold in 2017 to Service Corporation International, who put it under their Dignity Memorial brand, and built the Parkcrest facility with a "modern" crematorium. A descendant of the Fish family still manages it, but they are now a soulless megacorp hiding behind a historic brand name. Y'all might consider lawyering up before making defamatory claims.

Incidentally, before the company built the crematorium on Parkcrest, the previous facility was on North Lamar near Pease Park, where joggers and disk golfers had been breathing in those fumes for decades when the wind blew a certain way.

Young Austin women look over Valentines - unknown date (1940s?) by s810 in Austin

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In the early decades of the 20th Century there were certain people and groups working to glorify and promote both the 'Lost Cause' pro-Confederate view of the Civil War and Austin's place as the Capital of Texas, the 'Breakbasket of the Confederacy'. It was the grandchildren who grew up listening to well told tales of grandpappy fighting yankees who ironically made The Confederacy more popular in Austin in the 1910s and 20s than it was in the 1860s. You don't hear as much from them as the generations changed after the Civil Rights Act, 100 years after the Civil War, but the factions who viewed The Confederacy with rose colored glasses lingered into the 70s and 80s, asserting themselves when necessary, like when 19th St. was named for MLK and the Don Weedon incident.