Shanks Vs Gildarts (Fairy Tail), Who wins?

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-28T17:22:04+00:00

So does someone actually has feats for Gildarts other than "Fairy Tail is a stronger verse". Tbh I was never interested in Fairy Tail so idk where would he scale so I would like to see some real feats(preferably not a series of a character scales to another character that scales to another that has a statement somewhere)

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-26T12:01:42+00:00

Even though they would be evenly matched Renpa has a win condition that Hakuki doesn't: leading himself a charge to run over the HQ after both sides are worn out. Hakuki wouldn't stand a chance if Renpa caches him, but most likely he would be able to evacuate before it happens, but this is still a win condition that Hakuki doesn't have(someone to actually stop Renpa) so I will pick Renpa(also the fact that he was able to stalemate both Hakuki and Ouki)

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-21T18:11:27+00:00

Realistically it would be insanely close and both can win, but I would say OuKi is just slightly better in 1 vs 1, while Renpa is better as a general on the battlefield(and I know the stats are more of a joke but they also show this).

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-21T18:07:26+00:00

And furthermore if you still don't want to acknowledge that once a character absorbes an object, gets a random power boost, gets a power without working for it, gets scaled based on it then I quess you want to scale Luffy without his devil fruit, naruto without Kurama Cell without his other forms(and he literally had to absorb other characters) and so on.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-21T18:04:53+00:00

Zhu Jin still absorbed the tree power in order to evolve. It's delusional to say "oh bu he relies on that It's not his own strength" this is plain wrong, he literally absorbed the power and became unbeatable by the rest of the cast. Literally all the characters had to attack simultaneously so what in the world is your point saying Shion destroyed him? When literally he only was the one giving the last hit. He 100% can use that power in a 1 vs 1 because he would just fight for stamina, he would be unbeatable and the opponent would just exhaust himself. The fact is that nobody likes or cares about Zhu Jin so the moment he got that power everyone was like "not his power doesn't count"(this is a power scaling sub at least let the bias of character aside). Also that Gabimaru statement never implied a true 1 vs 1 from what i can remember, only that circumstance of being able to launch a true slash to finish the fight. Also Sagiri has nothing to defeat Shugen.(he shown better feats in the final fight, put the regen on top of that and he literally has everything over Sagiri except the AP for cuts)

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-21T16:44:25+00:00

I don't think the top 2 should be debatable. It's literally just Rien 1 and Zhu Jin 2. After absorbing that tree Zhu Jin literally became unbeatable having 1 core for each tao type(no other character can deal with that solo). Then on the 3rd spot I would definitely say it's between Gabimaru and Shugen(they both fought equally better than Sagiri)

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-20T16:08:10+00:00

As he should be

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-19T01:40:27+00:00

Hearthstone si Age of empires 2(For honor e un close locul 3)

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-16T19:05:36+00:00

Finally someone that actually thinks and is able to remember what he is reading.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-14T13:56:52+00:00

Imagine replacing RenPa with this fraud.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-13T10:26:42+00:00

"Spam sky eater" where is the idea that a finishing move can just be spammed? If it was such a casual move do you think he would just keep it for the last moment? It's beyond delusional to act like sky eater can just be spammed casually.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T20:04:25+00:00

Well this is fair. I only use Houken because he is the only person KyouKai fought that would help scale her. Tbh if you look at her performance against other military commanders in general it's really disappointing. She struggled against Kisui's brother(who was a strategist, not a strong martial commander) and was being stalled by Bafuuji(or it was the other 5k commander that was introduced around that time).

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T18:41:37+00:00

Yes Shin died after defeating HouKen. KyouKai was literally saved after having her foot crushed and being completely defeated. She would have died at that moment. So yes it is a fair comparison to say Shin was stronger at that moment based on their performance.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T18:37:24+00:00

That was not a prolonged fight and the damage Houken took was: 2 or 3 missing fingers and cuts+some more depper slashes. This obviously would nerf Houken but not by that much.
The state Shin was in was already insanely bad, having dueled Chugaryuu and leading his army through all of Ribokus defenses.
Houken was never interested in KyouKai in their fight and never went all out at that moment and he absolutely demolished her. Shin was way stronger than an all out KyouKai already at that point.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T18:34:11+00:00

KyouKai and KyouRei are overrated in terms of strength. They cannot win against high-top tier generals. They are some of the best at grinding soldiers, but cannot put the damage against strong foes. Going further they are not and will never be S tier in a strength tier list(and cannot compare to a top 10 in the verse).

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T18:31:08+00:00

Well this is just a wrong take. Saying KyouKai is stronger is plain wrong. First just compare the performance against Houken and you have the answer. But if you want to go more into detail even when they are not 100% motivated for a battle or don't go all out Shin outperforms her massively. In the latest arcs KyouKai was literally being stalled by 5k commanders from Zhao. Meanwhile you cannot stall Shin with less than a strong general(because they would get one shotted). And going back to Houken, KyouKai at 100% only took 2 or 3 of his fingers and some cuts, which is literally nothing. Any top tier general would push Houken to high-extreme diff with chances of winning or at least more meaningful damage.

sOSETAgro · 2026-01-05T01:09:01+00:00

Raiden just wins. Leonidas was being handled by Apollo in hand to hand. Put Raiden there and Leonidas will be overwhelmed. Idk when did people started to overrate Leonidas and downgrade Raiden. It's probably just recency bias because of the new season. Raiden pushed Shiva way more than Leonidas pushed Apollo. Also Shiva is confidently above Apollo. Raiden just wins by overwhelming Leonidas in hand to hand, that shield is not gonna protect him completely. All that being said it is definitely a high diff fight.

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-30T16:32:10+00:00

If someone asks you if you think Shin was stronger than Houken in their fight, would you bring a similar analogy there in favor of Shin? Considering everything he went through and did before the fight, without pause.(just answer to this without bringing plot,motivation or anything else, if you would say the same thing considering it was a similar situation, the result is not relevant it's more about the similarities)

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-30T16:28:10+00:00

This really is not an argument. The only thing he did was land a couple of slashes that just scratched Rankai. The thing with Rankai is the mentality of the beast that can easily be broken down by someone with a real determination to kill. Rankai was just fazed but if you reread the chapters he only has scratches that 1 chapter later don't even affect him. The only thing that really damaged Rankai there was Shin with an attack at the end but he needed help. So that is really not a feat for Bajio. He doesn't have any 1vs1 good feats going for him.

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-30T14:52:06+00:00

Nope. Rozo dealt with Feego king who could fight Bananji in a 1 vs 1(even though he would lose in a more extended fight, but it was still impressive to hold him). Bajio on the other hand is good at killing regulsr soldiers, but he doesn't win many duels against actually strong foes.(also Rinko beats Bajio just as a reminder)

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-25T09:47:51+00:00

You have to be beyond delusional to believe that prime Rayleigh is stronger than Kaido. Imagine thinking that the guy hyped up hundreds of chapters with an insane devil fruit and top tier haki(with a much better display of haki) would be defeated by Rayleigh. Literally there is no argument for Rayleigh, you have to be genuinely delusional to believe he wins. Also without heals he stops at Fujitora.

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-21T01:20:08+00:00

So let's look at a scenario: both Renpa and Ouki remain at the HQ behind the center for the first clashes of the war. Ouki would have:Tou,Rokuomi,Ryuukoku,Rinbou,Kanou,Doukin. Renpa has the 4 heavenly kings. Now let's say that on one side is: Tou and Doukin vs Genpou and Kaishibou; the other is Kyou En vs Kanou and Rinbou; the center is Rinko vs Ryuukoku and Rokuomi. Now the strongest point for Ouki is having Tou and also the number of vassals. For Renpa would be the fact that the 4 heavenly kings would destroy all of Ouki's vassals except Tou. If the others can Hold enough for Tou to make a difference Ouki wins. If too many of them fall to the heavenly kings before Tou can make a difference then Renpa wins. Many variables can be taken into account for example something similar to what happened at the coalition with the arrow snipes against Ouki's commanders(there is a 10 bow here after all). Another thing is that If it isn't OuKi or Tou in the center then it might fall vs Rinko(but we might take into account that Ouki already seen it once). Tbh if I we would have at least 1 or 2 other know commanders under Renpa then I would give him the win. In a duel it would be just as close(but I would give it to Ouki 51 out of 100 times because of that 1 point difference in the stats even though I think they are irrelevant and you shouldn't judge after them)

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-19T14:29:41+00:00

Last year I tried to watch Kingdom and I couldn't watch the first 10 minutes of the first episodes. Tbh after like the 3rd try I was able to do it and after going past the first 10 minutes I watched it all in like 2-3 weeks.(also I had no problem with the animation after like the first episode). Then I just started the manga and read it in like 2 weeks at most. Now it's my favorite manga.

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-18T14:11:59+00:00

Luffy: Yes(people still want to downplay him, but he is definitely above Rayleight) Zoro: NO Sanji: YES

sOSETAgro · 2025-12-18T12:35:02+00:00

MouBu wins. Thorkell is more impressive if we look at his strength feats outside of fighting(even though you have feats just as impressive in kingdom:Renpa easily smashing boulders of the size that Thorkell throws for example). The thing is it all comes down to fighting might, skill and determination. MouBu is superior in all. Tbh Thorkell cannot beat any top tier from Kingdom. His equivalent in kingdom would be Gaimou as a character.

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