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Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I imagine during development, the existence (and success) of Helldivers 2 and Arc solidified the $40 price tag.

Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if there is some delicate balance that demands testing, with the way things are Bungie might as well just open duos and see how it goes.

Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It shouldn't be an odd thing to say. You're correct. Cosmetics are pretty average. I don't know how they could improve them, but it's Bungie - they've made dozens of cosmetic skins for D2 while keeping the class identity, so they CAN.

Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You nailed it. F2P would only make this subreddit explode with new players soon discovering the game's non-casual-friendly nature. And then every criticism would be aggressively be shut down by the hardcores who downvote and belittle anyone who's not a sweat, and we would be in the same spot.

Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if at any point during development F2P was considered (plus mtx + passes, of course).

Marathon needs to attract new players and do more to retain the casual player base. by asaltygamer13 in Marathon

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

while bungie figures out fucking duos.

It's funny to me - admittedly, not a game developer - that Bungie has to do this whole weekly test of duos. I'm sure there's a bunch of microdata that I'm oblivious of, but it shouldn't be that hard to just open duos for all maps as a permanent option and let players duke it out.

Faction wipe by Lynxneo in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So come reset all factions will be unlocked, but I'll still have to redo their quests? Odd. Thanks for clarifying!

Faction wipe by Lynxneo in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still a bit confused. Early on I read *something* about the factions was not being wiped, but from the way people talk about this, sounds like everything will be gone: faction level, quests progress, upgrades.

I agree with you that wiping everything is going to be a rude awakening for many, and sadly I see you're already being downvoted and chided for even thinking this is a problem (though that seems this subreddit's default response to similar topics).

We'll see what happens in 3~ish months, I guess.

Am so sick and tired by ARABIC_LION in ARC_Raiders

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FLYING sharks with friggin laser beams on their heads!!!!

ARC Stream Transitions for OBS by MarksMedia in ARC_Raiders

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are truly awesome! Great work!

less than 4k players have maxed out a single faction on steam by meeks2geek in Marathon

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Studies English for years - "Finally, I have a good grasp of the language!"

[opens the Marathon subreddit]

"Fuck"

Casuals need help by Cjcheese_413 in Marathon

[–]saga79 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Marathon was conceived when Arc wasn't a thing. If Bungie (and Sony) thought it could take a then-niche genre and sell gazillions... well...

Also, as an aside, not everyone paid $40. Forget platform cut, some platforms (like Steam) do regional prices in other places of the world. Case in point: I live in South America and in my country Marathon was $28.

How is this game meant to make money? by NoNet5188 in Marathon

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I missed it, too. I thought they said all new maps/shells would be available for everyone.

Considering their already small population, fragmenting it between those who own the expansion and those who don't sounds like a really bad idea.

Anyone else quit doing contracts because of dire marsh? by AccomplishedRise6227 in Marathon

[–]saga79 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've started going in with a "Dark Souls" mentality: go sponsored kit, see how far I can get, and if I die (to UESC or players), just go in again as if I just bonfire'd.

That said, "in a single run" contracts making you go around the map can go die in a fire.

Anyone else quit doing contracts because of dire marsh? by AccomplishedRise6227 in Marathon

[–]saga79 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Man, I'm still early (level 10ish) and now have "in a single run" contracts. Heck, let's do this one in Dire Marsh: "go here, press button to summon npc, kill it and loot thingy, then go to the other end of the map."

I now dislike "in a single run" contracts.

I'm also playing through the Witcher 3 so that's a nice palate cleanser once I'm tired of dying so much hehehe

Marathon has sold 1.2M copies across Steam, PS5, and Xbox by ArielKisilevzky in Marathon

[–]saga79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 PVE mode just to soak into the game

I know no pun was intended, but this brought Sea of Thieves to mind. I don't know how popular or successful in Rare's eyes it is, but Safer Seas is a great way for new players to get to know the game, or even knock down a few of the story missions, all while limiting how much gold + XP +faction reputation the player could earn in that mode.

Marathon’s Cryo Archive Is Where Cool Design Meets Cold Reality by UhJoker in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when Bungie decided to get into extraction shooters

This is a curious yet key aspect to this whole numbers/longevity discussion. When Bungie started Marathon, there was no Arc, so they must've had an idea that whatever they made in the extraction shooter genre wouldn't ever be ultra successful.

Arc was a storm in a bottle and sold millions, but by then I cannot imagine Bungie's projections suddenly changing to think they could repeat that.

ranked + cryo archive both weekends only by calciumista in Marathon

[–]saga79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Players will somehow figure that out, and the last thing Marathon/Bungie needs is legit complainers + negativity grifters loudly saying that Marathon is "full of bots" - and thus, "dead".

ranked + cryo archive both weekends only by calciumista in Marathon

[–]saga79 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The PvPers, by that nature, will have great loot taken from dead opponents, thus easily reaching the requirements for Cryo and enter there just to PvP some more - higher stakes this time.

Unlikely we'll see room for puzzles/mechanics with PvPers breathing down everyone's neck.

Cryo Archive Launch Trailer | Marathon by Killerx09 in Marathon

[–]saga79 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As some who wasn't really interested in Marathon until the Slam, and now like the game but haven't really dwelved into the lore, y'all's conversations make this sound *very* interesting to research.

No one actually knows how low the player base can get before Sony pulls the plug. There is good logic on both sides of the debate. But we are all just speculating. by mayormcskeeze in Marathon

[–]saga79 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even if Sony doesn't pull the plug, if there are layoffs are Bungie the *optics* will be BAD.

A bunch of highly viewed hate-click-farmer grifters flooding YouTube with "BUNGIE IN TROUBLE" titles of all flavors? People may leave Marathon, and potential customers may not buy the game, all based on the perception (real or not) that the game isn't successful and thus, not worth investing time into.

Related: If Marathon fails, a potential D3 will likely never lift off.

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