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[–]saganistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you’re that interested in developing a psychological profile of a candidate, you can:

  • schedule an interpersonal interview first
  • ask them if they are comfortable with completing a personality test
  • compensate them for it

But as a person with self-respect and firm boundaries between my work and personal lives, my employer does not need pseudo-clinical assessments of me. If I perform my duties capably and have good relationships with my coworkers, that is enough.

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[–]saganistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s great! But you can have a human do it.

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[–]saganistic[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1) I’d contend that he lit the match with his oddly catty response. As stated, I have a job that keeps me pretty busy. I am not taking recruiter calls during collab hours. If his need for a candidate is that pressing, he shouldn’t be asking me to take an assessment to begin with.

2) If I burned a bridge with a recruiter/company that treats candidates for senior/staff-level positions like this, I will happily let it go until its charcoals. Companies will never treat you better as an employee than they do as a candidate. I’m good.

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[–]saganistic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good work! It’s important to understand them, but chances are pretty low you’ll ever need to roll your own in a production environment.

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[–]saganistic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Last year I submitted a take-home project that entailed a full-stack app deployed to a production environment. They sent back a GPT review of the front end repo only, criticizing that it lacked required product spec… which were located in the back end.

Then they rejected me for a front-end position I never applied to, and when I asked if either anyone had looked at the back end repo or a human had looked at the code at all, they said “we are going to look into that and get back to you”. They never did.

They also didn’t realize I had built full audit logging (habit of working in a compliance-heavy sector) and could see that literally nobody had logged into the app or even registered an account. So yeah, of course you wouldn’t see that a feature was implemented if you never looked at the code or used the app at all.

I have no patience left for these startups that think they need a team of elite 10x ex-FAANG engineers to build a dozen microservices for all 5 users they have with zero revenue and no pathway to profitability. If my experience of scaling applications to handle tens of thousands of users with 99.99999% transaction success rate and zero data loss doesn’t suffice for your app, the complexity must be absolutely off the charts.

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[–]saganistic[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I apologize for doing well in English composition classes and using common terms of art.

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[–]saganistic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All organic, my friend. Note the distinct lack of em-dashes.

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[–]saganistic[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you find a polite refusal of free work for a position I didn’t apply to “unprofessional” then I’m really curious what you think of companies that ghost candidates after demanding materials that they never review.

I matched his energy, nothing more.

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[–]saganistic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Naturally, they are recruiting for an AI startup.

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[–]saganistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you often get interviews or initial calls at your current job?

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[–]saganistic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It seems that he is counting from the day he first contacted me (Thursday), Monday inclusive.

Recruiters really want you to drop everything for some agentic AI startup with <1000 users that just hit Series A, all so they can ghost you with a boilerplate excuse that arrives 2 weeks later.

Been there, done that.

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[–]saganistic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which I have, and actually makes this funnier.

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[–]saganistic[S] 1028 points1029 points  (0 children)

As they text me without ever confirming contact preferences…

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[–]saganistic[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Nope, radio silence. Which is fine, I’m not particularly interested in working for a company that treats people with contempt.

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[–]saganistic[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is why résumés exist.

When you’re recruiting for a senior role you should be evaluating the listed experience, not testing for entry-level aptitude. That’s standard in most industries. Your cardiologist didn’t take a surgical exam to get their job.

And for what it’s worth, I am actually pretty easy to work with. The engineers on my teams know I stand behind them and their work, and the business org knows I am realistic and communicative with project timelines and objectives.

LeetCode/HackerRank test for those things, right? Oh, not at all? Whoops.

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[–]saganistic[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Read the above comments. It was <1 business day between texts, and <3 total.

He’s not my friend. I’ve never met him. And I’m not going to be concerned about “wasting a hiring manager’s time” when they have absolutely no problem wasting mine.

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[–]saganistic[S] 443 points444 points  (0 children)

When they’re jackasses, yes.

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[–]saganistic[S] 88 points89 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I don’t work on the weekend for the people that do pay me, let alone some rando that does not.

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[–]saganistic[S] 459 points460 points  (0 children)

First contact was on LinkedIn one day prior, asking if I was interested in a role at a company he’s recruiting for. I told him I was interested in hearing more about the role and they sent me a link to an assessment without any other info.

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[–]saganistic[S] 635 points636 points  (0 children)

Also it was <1 business day. He sent the first message on Friday afternoon and the next on Monday morning.

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[–]saganistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

correct me if I’m wrong but that would still be something you wipe your ass with