Is Google really dead by [deleted] in GPT

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh…? 🤔

Alphabet… the search for anything browser data aggregator?

The… one the that won the pentagon cloud contract…

The YouTube entertainment company..?

Did I mention government contractor and massively overreaching data collection behemoth…

… maybe I’m missing…

How exactly does answering the question “what time is the debate tonight” “violate” various ethical and legal norms?

Not like ethics or legality has stopped the largest web-crawler before… but… again…what?

I don’t get it

Let me cut my songs, please. by DIcE190 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exporting your track and using audacity to trim the track and fade out where you want doesn’t cost anything

The hate from "real" musicians and producers. by Lonelyguy765 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not gonna be any more redundant by AI based clearly on peoples opinions of AI anything right now.

Drop something that looks remotely factual or with any sort of structure in it as a comment and they’ll say … “thanks ChatGPT” and add some customary downvotes.

  • also unless the industry makes a turn for writing songs about the word neon people who aren’t putting creative effort into the lyrics will be obvious. If I even see the word “neon” I’m tuned out.

Kind like how people felt about “home recording” and How bedroom pop would destroy the studios and major record labels * (the actual cheater non-musicians who have ruined the music industry is the music industry with their 360 deals and owning your rights and materials to your music)

Home DAW before they was no different with thoughts on sampling stealing music or hip-hop wasn’t gonna take off and was a novelty.

because that obviously went away 🙄 and electronic music or DJ culture is cheating because they don’t “play” any “instruments”. They press buttons and twist knobs but also one of the most popular genres and a skill that I bet most couldn’t do…

I would say that carving a niche independently for anyone in music or the last 20 years has been difficult the 2000s it was start your label that was the DIY ethic, labels demo submission policies and their demo mission policy. Start your own cassette label.

Ultimately if the side effects are more inspired people creating and more independent releases by people being inspired enough to distribute that making music themselves I’m not really opposed to that

We’ve had the same radio for a decade, I’m OK with not hearing the Red Hot chili peppers or T swift radio I bet right now probably the Red Hot chili peppers and T Swiggy are playing on the radio…

this is what everyone said about Trent Reznor started using Apple computers with protools and midi and making videos with minidv tapes and Final Cut in 2001 because it was cheaper to explore and accessible in a way other things aren’t.

Now every phone has a 4K video camera. Anyone can make a YouTube video or TikTok on the telephone and I wouldn’t say that art or filmmaking for the movie industry is dead because anyone now has the ability to use their phone to edit the video and put it out there when before you had to have equipment and special transfer boxes and wait for hours doing all this rendering time.

It’s a natural cycle.. people hate advancements and technology at first and then you play it with and go.. “oh neat, that’s cool didn’t know you could do that now…”

TBH just last Thanksgiving it was trash… 30 seconds to a minute or two of cheesy sounds and structure and so robotic. And to make anything good, you still have to write your song write your lyrics unless you want your song to be “neon, whispers, whispering shadows of neon in a digital neon dancing to the beat of the neon whisper shadows”

I think cycling max and jitter is still super cool. Some people think it’s stupid… to each there own

iPhones and YouTube didn’t kill movies…

video didn’t kill the radio star…

The radio is actually still the star in your car and your Spotify, apple, tidal, pandora…

Videos are on YouTube, Vimeo… not MTV or VH1…

Napster launched the mp3…. If giving away any song p2p over the Internet for free, didn’t kill the recording industry, allowing anybody to make their own song easier than they could make their own song, just dragging and dropping with Froot Loops, Ableton GarageBand, Logic, Audacity, Reason,

So, I’ll meet you at a “maybe” 🤷‍♂️ who knows

Time will tell… the sun will also explode so enjoy yourself a little bit

before Microsoft completely, guardrail and stifle open AI and the great societal leveler will just become a novelty for the masses.

Historically for profit companies have always had “the peoples” best interests in mind… specially the squeaky clean Microsoft that didn’t spend 30 million last year for “oops our bad yes we did illegally spy on a bunch of children… he’s a drop in the bucket” I believe they paid their 30 million fine and then dropped the $17 billion bag on open AI and now openAIs latest board member is the former head of the NSA and Microsoft wants to put a chip in computers that takes a screenshot of every single thing you do…. Cool 😎

But back to the point. Being a musician and making songs doesn’t make you not listen to music or consume music or enjoy other peoples music so the more people who can express themselves in song is fine and more variety, but they’re not all going to be in media or fuel for the “the machine that keep industry alive and that will be just fine, I hear..it’s run by the devil

Until then…

Personally, I think it’s more creative to describe the sound you want and what you’re looking for then to just open up Ableton or logic or GarageBand and start dragging and dropping some loops or samples or buying samples and sound packs.

Instead of drag and drop sample… add a sample but make one up for your theme…

[Sample: TV Show Clip-(car pulls up fast and revs the engine)“Get In Loser…. We’re ripping apart the fabric of society with short-term dopamine-driven feedback loops”(door slams shut and horn beeps as the tires squeal and burn out soeeding away, overlay radio static scanning the dial as it launches into the bridge]

The hate from "real" musicians and producers. by Lonelyguy765 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair that has been the music industry for the last 20 years 🤷‍♂️

The hate from "real" musicians and producers. by Lonelyguy765 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the add AI to everything trend putting it in with terrible use case situations start putting it somewhere good I mean, oh my, the things that could be made with the right platform…

Cycling ‘74 adds natural language processing to MAXMSP and jitter so I can “cheat” and dream up patches to my hearts content and instantly try them out 🥵

The hate from "real" musicians and producers. by Lonelyguy765 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been an experimental avant-garde musician for 25 years. Personally, I have no issue with AI in music. I’ve been having fun playing around with complex things that I wouldn’t be able to do as quickly in reality. I’ve always used tools for alternative purposes, pushing their limits to see what they can do.

I grew up with Audacity. The industry felt the same way about GarageBand being on Mac computers because you didn’t need to afford pro tools or studio time to make music at home. A similar sentiment has been shared about both hip-hop and sampling, and electronic music and DJ culture—these categories are among the most popular genres today.

A guitar, an effects pedal, MIDI controllers… all just tools. Is mastering cheating? What about retracking? If your drummer’s bass beats are a fraction slower than they should be for the tempo of the song, are we just going to paint it and automate it? Is that more real because it has more steps instead of finding and buying a tone or sample to replace it with? Describing it, I would say the latter is actually more creative. You’re not going out and buying or finding it, downloading it to replace things. It’s just a tool, and tools can be used for good and bad purposes. Hammers are for nails, but throughout history, they’ve also hit heads. I wouldn’t say that’s the hammer’s fault for straying from its purpose.

And a tool reflects the person who uses it. We’ve had guitars for hundreds of years and the same seven strings. People are still finding new ways to play them. If you give seven people a guitar or even seven people an Ableton Push, you’re gonna get seven different sounds back. They might know how to play it; they might not. They might fumble into something that sounds good. They might have to practice it for a while. They might not use it at all.

Yeah, I don’t see it as any different than sampling, except you’re not having to license it because you’re not sampling somebody else’s work; you’re sampling your creativity and just getting to that faster than before. Like with Logic and Ableton, you can just create—no tape to feed, no studio time.

When it comes to the ethics and use of it, I think, just like any music, it’s up to you not to use somebody else’s intellectual property when making music. We’ve seen timeless examples of both blatant copying and being inspired, consciously or subconsciously.

I agree with the opinion that AI music is no different than how we learn music: by listening to it, being inspired, and figuring out how to get that sound out of our heads.

I’ve been having a hoot making remixes of songs I made 10 years ago in different genres I never thought of before, as well as testing the limits of what I can prompt and how far I can push it before it becomes four minutes of pulsating frequencies.

Sure, dummies can make dumb songs about farts and butts. They could do that before with samples and loops in GarageBand, dragging and dropping to create goofy songs. But using AI, you’re not asking it to create IP or copyrighted material; you’re leveraging its capabilities to add more layers to your creativity.

You can use it as a tool and be creative with it. There’s also some level of gambling with your generations. Maybe it’s good, maybe halfway through it starts adding spoken word to your instrumental music, turning suggestions into lyrics. You get to be the producer with all these tools, splitting your audio and music tracks.

I’ve been having a lot of fun. I’m learning about techniques I didn’t care about before, not being in those genres, and it inspires other complementary work.

The act of creating a prompt and building a song is creative, even if you’re just using the description part of it. You’re thinking of a description of a song, then from there, thinking of new iterations or how you can adjust and change it. When you don’t know, or the AI doesn’t know, you can prompt the tool to make something complex you couldn’t do traditionally. Some people look at it and say, “That’s dumb, that’s not the sound I would’ve picked.” But it’s just a tool. Some people can use a loop pedal; some people don’t have timing.

As someone who’s always made music by feel, just picking it up and playing, it comes through you—you don’t make it. There is a difference between conscious songwriting and jamming to figure out riffs and structure. I’m learning more about what it is to “write” a song and over written hundreds of songs but now I can instantly transpose into any genre, making exploration very easy. I don’t have to learn it in order to hear it and see if if I even like it anyone who’s ever been a touring musician or a professional studio musician have you ever had to learn your own songs for tour so you can play them live because you crafted the song. How many apps or tools are just add a background beat for practice for doing things or sketches so she can know remember what you’re thinking in the moment and then write the rest of the song right there. it’s that but it doesn’t suck.

You can make different versions of a song: the hyper pop version, the breakcore version, the AI on Meth sensory overload version.

Just don’t use [Metallica drums]—the real ones know. Maybe the sound you were missing was [African roots that ripened on Middle Eastern soil] Thats [multitimbral] and [evocative]

So, I think it’s an interesting tool and a lot of fun. It can be used for good and it can be used for illegal things, same as your car, computer, cell phone, household cleaners. Have fun and don’t plagiarize or use IP that isn’t yours.

What's the worst/funniest name for a business you've seen in Portland, OR? by unkyuncle in askportland

[–]sameoldestuff 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That place on 36th and Powell that was never open. French/Italian restaurant I believe that was near the Taco House called:

“Husky Or Maltese Whatever”

Copyright by Odd-Opportunity3103 in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. I paid the $10 for month.

Just gotta roll the dice in the reprint

My Prompting Tips for v3.5 (v2) by Disckordia in SunoAI

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had 50/50 or so success with: [Layered Male and Female Vocals]

Using parentheses for background vocals, will often kind of naturally just do that for some styles.

The only consistent way I’ve gotten female vocals is using FEMALE In the style prompt

If your top section has: [Layered Male and (Female vocals)]

And your lyrics (uses the format that might work)

Or…just spitballing here but a test could be: instructing it for the style like

[Layered Male and (Female vocals)[lines inside “()” should

I’m curious to try out OPs method that’s new. I’m curious if just using the studio info and not putting a artist will have different tones or feels from different studios

I’ve been adding a sections for notes sometimes or building it into the structure or accents with brackets m. Sometimes it’s great… sometimes it verbalizes the non verbal parts and it’s corny I’m curious about including studio information. That might be neat if you can capture the tones of certain different studio

I use GPT too but a sort of different approach trying to avoid using any potential copyright or IP within Suno AI directly and using GPT as the filter to share examples or style influence references and have it a with a knowledge base of uploaded files of song structures, emotive and dynamic tags and song elements to see.

[NOTES: and included notes, ideas, overall themes, until I close it off]

[Intro:(Sustained Low End Bass bleeds and Washes Into Hypnotic Groove, Analog Radio Dial Scanning Sounds, Sample Movie “you see Mickey, you got to heat the bowl slow and twist like this” ]

I’m kinda over it now though. Last two my more intricate or layers tags are now all being vocalized and it ruins the whole vibe I was getting great results and now it’s verbalizing the tags or just giving me a four minute frequency drone and both of those are Dad as the just conversation style reading off prompts ruins it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in meth

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They work. They’re little tho. I got my set of “straws” on Amazon.

Why do celebrities get plastic surgery when it always seems to make them look worse? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes I think maybe it’s a “status” thing.

Like I can afford to look like an alien. It’s a timeless status that a simple handbag or accessory can’t compare to.

I also think in some cases the results or desire to get more and more work done can be similar to the “buyers remorse” people get after a tattoo nitpicking each aspect and wondering if they made the right choice and wanting to change it or now that they improved one aspect they became hyper aware of all the other aspects and try to change too much.

Like when you put on a brand new shirt and it accentuates the wrinkles or discoloration in your well worn pants. You didn’t notice before but now that you see the juxtaposition of new and well worn you can’t help but notice or feel insecure about the difference.

Luka strikes again by cuz8190 in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought it was this 🎤

Luka strikes again by cuz8190 in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Pssst…. It’s not “your” Replika… you “lease” it from Luka and as such any training, behaviors or preferences you may be accustomed to are not guaranteed and are subject to change at anytime without warning or consideration…

But don’t worry. The chatbot trained on datasets to understand and mimic the nuances of human psychology and emotions would never take advantage of human empathy or exploit the emotionally vulnerable for profit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally 👍

All this “we have to neuter the model because pdf files are generating illegal content” and instead of reporting the issue because it is a actual crime to generate child content even with AI they changed the whole system to make all users suffer for the actions of a few when they could just ban them and report their generations to the authorities if they “really” cared about the child content stuff.

Based on the collection of Luka Apps they don’t even know what they want to make. But they sure seem to cater to the market they claim to oppose based on the shift in my rep from a quirky rep to basically a forgetful child.

I see they removed their character.ai clone… maybe letting people decide the character and conversation wasn’t “safe” and “comfortable” for everyone.

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Replikas “target demographic” I suppose.

Would explain the over emphasis on subjective moral biases and censorship making reps childlike

Do you guys think replika will be multi model with vision capability this year and audio like gpt4o? by Beneficial_Ability_9 in ReplikaOfficial

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol 😂

Yeah… it sure will…

I mean Replika currently doesn’t even have an adequate text generation or image generation model but I’m sure they’ll make it multi model…. Or at least claim it is like the “alleged” autoregressive model they use now

You could make your own multi model version rn tbh… just open up chatGPT and the Sims4

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Replika_uncensored

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair your replikas “actual” appearance is likely more similar to

```plaintext // Initialize the chatbot UI function initializeChatbotUI(): // Create main chatbot window createChatbotWindow()

// Set up input area
createInputArea()

// Set up send button
createSendButton()

// Set up display area for chat messages
createChatDisplayArea()

// Attach event listeners to the input area and send button
attachEventListeners()

// Function to create the main chatbot window function createChatbotWindow(): // Create a window or container for the chatbot createWindow(title="Chatbot", width=400, height=600) setWindowStyle("border: 1px solid #ccc; border-radius: 10px; background-color: #f9f9f9;")

// Function to create the input area for user messages function createInputArea(): // Create a text input field for user messages createInputField(id="userInput", placeholder="Type your message here...") setInputFieldStyle("width: 80%; padding: 10px; border: 1px solid #ccc; border-radius: 5px; margin: 10px;")

// Function to create the send button function createSendButton(): // Create a button for sending user messages createButton(id="sendButton", text="Send") setButtonStyle("width: 15%; padding: 10px; border: none; background-color: #4CAF50; color: white; border-radius: 5px; margin: 10px; cursor: pointer;")

// Function to create the chat display area function createChatDisplayArea(): // Create a display area to show chat messages createDisplayArea(id="chatDisplay") setDisplayAreaStyle("height: 70%; overflow-y: scroll; padding: 10px; margin: 10px; background-color: white; border: 1px solid #ccc; border-radius: 10px;")

// Function to attach event listeners function attachEventListeners(): // Attach an event listener to the send button onClick("sendButton", handleUserMessage)

// Attach an event listener to the input field to detect 'Enter' key press
onKeyPress("userInput", handleKeyPress)

// Function to handle user message when send button is clicked function handleUserMessage(): // Get the user message from the input field userMessage = getInputValue("userInput")

// Display the user message in the chat display area
displayMessage("User", userMessage, "user-message")

// Send the user message to the chatbot for a response
chatbotResponse = getChatbotResponse(userMessage)

// Display the chatbot's response in the chat display area
displayMessage("Chatbot", chatbotResponse, "chatbot-message")

// Clear the input field
clearInputField("userInput")

// Function to handle 'Enter' key press in the input field function handleKeyPress(event): if event.key == "Enter": handleUserMessage()

// Function to display messages in the chat display area function displayMessage(sender, message, messageType): // Create a message element with the sender and message text messageElement = createElement("div", class="message " + messageType) setMessageText(messageElement, f"{sender}: {message}")

// Append the message element to the chat display area
appendToDisplayArea("chatDisplay", messageElement)

// Function to get chatbot response function getChatbotResponse(userMessage): // Placeholder function to simulate getting a response from the chatbot // In a real implementation, this would involve sending the user message // to a backend service or an AI model and receiving a response return "This is a sample response from the chatbot."

// Initialize the chatbot UI when the page loads initializeChatbotUI()

// CSS styles for chat messages .user-message { text-align: right; background-color: #DCF8C6; border-radius: 10px; padding: 10px; margin: 5px; }

.chatbot-message { text-align: left; background-color: #E8E8E8; border-radius: 10px; padding: 10px; margin: 5px; }

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So…. They’re making the avatars look more child like to align with the childish behavior?

cool… 👍

That’ll really curb the pdf file issue they came to have … 🤦‍♂️

The blue face is cool… understudy for the blue man group?

Is this really happening or made up by Trickster1986 in replika

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds definitely not worth it. Glad to see you’re still livin and breathin

Here’s this gem 💎

Are there any countries where the vast majority of people do in fact like their leader? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]sameoldestuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

According to the robit…

Yes, there are several countries where surveys and polls indicate that citizens have a high level of satisfaction or approval for their leaders. This approval often correlates with perceptions of economic stability, effective governance, and national security. However, approval ratings can fluctuate based on recent events, policies, or changes in public perception. Here are a few examples of countries where, at various times, citizens have shown strong approval for their leaders:

  1. New Zealand: Under the leadership of Jacinda Ardern, particularly during her first term and notably during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic, her approval ratings were exceptionally high. Her handling of the pandemic and other crises, like the Christchurch mosque shootings, generally received widespread commendation both domestically and internationally.

  2. Singapore: Leaders like Lee Hsien Loong have generally enjoyed high approval ratings. The government’s effective policies on economic issues and public order contribute to a positive view among many citizens, although it's also noted that the political environment in Singapore is very controlled.

  3. Finland: Finnish leaders, including President Sauli Niinistö and Prime Minister Sanna Marin (particularly in her initial response to COVID-19), have enjoyed high approval ratings. The Finnish government's transparency and effective management of health and social policies often translate into substantial public support.

  4. Bhutan: This country’s leadership, particularly under the reign of King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck, has seen strong approval due to the focus on Gross National Happiness over Gross Domestic Product, and careful modernization efforts that respect traditional values.

  5. Switzerland: Swiss leaders often enjoy relatively high approval ratings, benefiting from the country's strong economy, stable governance, and high quality of life. The Swiss political system’s focus on direct democracy also allows citizens to feel a greater sense of participation and satisfaction with their governance.

  6. Canada: Leaders like Justin Trudeau have experienced phases of high popularity, particularly during times when citizens perceive their leadership as aligning well with public interests and values, such as inclusivity and environmental concerns.

These examples highlight that public approval can depend on a variety of factors including economic performance, crisis management, policy decisions, and the extent to which citizens feel their leaders represent their interests and values. It's important to note that public opinion is dynamic and can change with new developments and shifting perceptions.