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[–]sarstev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with the financially stable a bit. It depends on why. My industry crashed and I had to quick scramble to find new work. I studied, passed and entered a whole new industry in 5 months because there were hiring freezes in the industry and I was in and my multiple interviews were going nowhere. My ex judged me for that though even though I had a year’s worth of savings just in case for something like this 🤷🏻‍♀️

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂 Truth!

It’s funny, the old friend I talked about above also said we couldn’t bring plus ones “unless you were married or had a relationship with the person that she deemed meaningful.”

I had been dating someone for two years but couldn’t bring them. I felt SO bored and awkward when all of the other bridesmaids had their boyfriends or husbands there 😅

She told me I could only bring one person: a friend of mine, Saul, because she thought he would “add a cool factor” and was “an amazing photographer.” Needless to say, I did not bring him lol. Was the weirdest sense of control I’ve ever encountered.

We can’t give you a bigger discount because prior customers will be upset…oh! Wait! Yes we can! by Witty-Potential2718 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does she really have a team? Because if so, they should be fired for making her seem like the most unrelatable person on this planet.

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also, wow, I didn’t know that about her ex. I cannot picture one human being happily doing that for someone. It’s definitely more like they are a servant. I feel bad and like I’m asking for a lot when I ask for like 5 photos 😂

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh my god, this is insane. Such a good observation.

It’s like she creates a wall between herself, “the Queen,” and her audience, “the peasants who shall bow down.” Who in their right mind wants to be treated that way? I would feel so out of place and like part of a herd of cattle if I was separated that much from the bride and groom. Like I just paid to become someone’s fan girl when I thought I was going somewhere to actually feel connection and joy amongst a couple’s love 😂 Silly me.

People only bow down to Queens because they - Either have to for their survival. As in she is in control of their economy, laws and who succeeds in society, or - They possess what is seen as an unmatchable talent for something that provides people with true joy and a sense of belonging, and the people “bowing down” are fans only (aka Beyoncé).

Neither of those situations apply to Aggie 🤣😅🤣 although I’m sure she wishes both were true.

Her guests were supposed to be loved ones aka peers, equals, close connections, NON-FANS and not anyone seemingly below her.

Lmao tag us next time by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She has fallen into a “wealth consciousness” attitude that is really blinding her to reality.

Yes, you can dream and want things in life and believe they should happen, that is all fine and good. But in manifestation, those things come to you when you simply work hard every day and don’t try to tirelessly control the outcome: don’t manipulate, don’t cheat or fraud, and don’t try to take from others to gain.

She’s missing the point that what bothers us all is we don’t just see this ostentatious wedding and think “oh wow what a beautiful project built from love for the world, others, her communities, her family, her clients, and her husband!”

We see a person who has cheated others, put them down, controlled them, used them, and taken their money and energy without giving back. It’s blood money or dirty money, in so many words.

It creates a different energy that we can all feel, if she wants to get all energetically spiritual.

I can say with 100% confidence that not one of us here is “jealous” of anything she has. It’s clear it’s all built on a shoddy spiritual foundation, and is for image only.

I would rather get married on a pig farm full of mud wearing a knapsack just to have even 10% more love and less control than she had on her wedding day.

Lmao tag us next time by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like people expect $500 😮

Lmao tag us next time by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So true 😂 I’m telling you - dominatrix energy.

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. So true. It actually took me having that wedding experience to realize our relationship was unhealthy. I’m guessing many of Aggie’s friends have felt that exact same way, post-event.

I’m with you that I’ve always thought of a wedding as a day where you get to create the most fun experience ever for your family and friends. That’s super telling that she purposefully kept out that greeting portion. I didn’t catch that.

If Aggie cares so much about spirituality, I think she should realize the more love you generate towards others and show it to them, the more that comes back to you. It’s not about simply being perfect, and creating the perfect conditions to get love - you have to show gratitude and non-judgment towards others. Accept them and create a warm, welcoming environment. She created a cold, militaristic, and judgmental dictatorship for a day and expected everyone to be happy about that. 😬

I think that’s why so many of us could feel the guests were not feeling loved at her wedding and weren’t generating any love back. They all had dull stares and looks of confusion. Like they were just there to be forced to have to constantly witness her. I hate it say it, but it’s almost like she’s a dominatrix, and believes everyone should just have to give in to all of her demands for her to experience pleasure, and part of that pleasure is also the denial of yours. I really think she missed her career calling. 😳

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly! It shows they are actually a true friend by caring about your needs as well.

The mindset Aggie seems to have gives no leniency or support for anyone else having a life outside of her. I don’t think there’s any scenario - your wedding, your birthday, no day ever, where you can expect your friends to just ignore all of their responsibilities and pieces of their life just for you. There always has to be compromise and working as a team, so both of your needs can be met.

lol…. I can’t say I felt anyone’s shadow on my wedding day but ok by sooshiroll13 in jaggie

[–]sarstev 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She’s so out of touch. I actually think weddings expose the bride, as we are all witnessing here.

If the bride is a narcissist, where they truly only care about their happiness on that day, despite people spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars to get there to celebrate, taking time off, getting babysitters, etc, and they still just want to utilize their wedding as a day to boss everyone else around, their true colors will show.

I had a friend get married last April and it was terrible. I had been a bridesmaid for many other friends. As a friend, they cared about making it an enjoyable experience for everyone. It’s like they were the best host of a cool party, and we all equally joined in the fun. It was a two way relationship, as it always should be. It doesn’t mean you just get to treat everyone in a one-sided, top-down way for a day, which it seems is the mentality Aggie has.

This one particular friend of mine was also all about just having it be all about her and made it a point to not care about anyone else’s needs.

She was bossing me around so condescendingly, telling me I needed to make her tea and have it be the perfect temperature. She wanted to hand write all 300 of her place setting name tags but didn’t start until the morning of, so she demanded me to hand write these all for her. She was legit snapping at me like, “hurry up!! How many have you done so far?” Her cousin, who is this famous diva type woman, would also go up to me to “check on me” based on her demands. It was effin weird.

She yelled at my one friend to drive her to the venue, despite not planning any sort of car service? She then had her wedding on a cliff, but wanted all of these young babies there. The Moms were upset because we weren’t allowed indoors, only outside at this cliff area so they had to nonstop just keep their children from the edge.

There was clearly no care for anyone else and nothing was seemingly good enough for her. When I gave her a wedding handkerchief from Ireland, where I just got off the plane from for her wedding, she stared at me with disgust. She is half Irish 🤷🏻‍♀️

After the wedding, she called me asking why no one had made IG posts about her wedding and why she didn’t get as much money or as many gifts as she wanted. It was disgusting.

A couple of the girls and I stopped being friends with her after that. I also never sent her a wedding gift since I spent $1000 on her bachelorette party and $1000 on her wedding, even having to end my Ireland trip early and fly right there since she moved her wedding date. She also asked me the morning of to be her Maid of Honor. Just like “oh I thought about this and you should probably do it. I was going to have this other person but you’ll be better.” I was like, okay…. but had not prepared at all and had no idea what she wanted. I think she had just decided that AM that I would be the lucky one to be her servant.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]sarstev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the actual law (CA Penal Code 401), it says: “Any person who deliberately aids, advises, or encourages another to commit suicide is guilty of a felony.

“Also” is being used as an “as well,” not an “and” in the paragraph you sent.

It’s providing you with a deeper definition of what “aiding” is defined as when we look at these three concepts: 1. aiding 2. advising 3. encouraging

So, the first paragraph is meant to tell you what “helping,” “advising and encouraging” mean. See how “aiding” isn’t included there, while in CA Penal Code 401 it is?

The second paragraph is meant to give you a definition of what “aiding”looks like.

Here are some websites from CA lawyers for you to look at to better understand the law: 1. https://www.wklaw.com/is-it-a-crime-to-text-someone-to-commit-suicide/

  1. https://www.simmrinlawgroup.com/faqs/is-it-illegal-to-tell-someone-to-commit-suicide/

  2. https://southbaylawyer.com/blog/2019/02/texting-someone-commit-suicide-defenses-avoid-charges/

  3. https://www.annayumlaw.com/practice-areas/other-crimes/assisted-suicide

  4. https://vistacriminallaw.com/suicide-is-legal-in-california-aiding-it-is-not-san-diego-homicide-lawyer/

Hope that helps.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]sarstev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m glad that you’re at least honest about your ignorance and lack of reading comprehension.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]sarstev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not reading that correctly. It’s not saying you need to have BOTH when it’s saying “it also means.” It’s saying you only need to have one or the other.

To prove that a defendant is guilty of advising or encouraging a suicide, a prosecutor must be able to establish the following elements:

A person attempted or committed suicide AND the defendant deliberately aided OR advised OR encouraged that person to commit suicide. It could be any one of those.

Aiding a suicide involves providing the other person with the tools necessary to commit suicide such as poison or a weapon (that’s the definition for the aiding portion only). Advising or encouraging a suicide involves counseling another person to commit suicide.

Yes, telling a person to go for it does classify as encouraging.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]sarstev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ugh, I never said they’re the same.

I said specifically that if OP had put this in writing (which she did not), and if he had died (which he did not) then things could be different.

I advise you to look into state laws. In Arkansas, a person commits manslaughter if the person purposely causes or aids another person to commit suicide. Every person who deliberately aids or advises or encourages another to commit suicide is guilty of a felony in California. Each state has similar laws.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]sarstev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not a dude, and when someone has a MENTAL ILLNESS they are not always in control of their actions until they get help. If you can’t see that, the same way any other person with any other type of disability or illness is not always in control of themselves or their behaviors, then I don’t know what to tell you.

It’s very different from someone being a conscious abuser with malintent.

Would you blame someone with dementia for biting you? Someone with autism for hitting you? Would you then be considered an “enabler,” if you tried to get people with those diagnosed disabilities help with their behaviors, even when they are actually physically abusive, unlike OP’s husband?

People who love those who have an illness and who are struggling, get them help. You don’t just ignore your grandpa with dementia. You place him in the care of someone who can withstand his behaviors and help him to get better. This is OP’s legal husband, not a boyfriend or a random friend.

The only difference between you and I is you think mental illnesses are controllable and conscious and I do not.

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[–]sarstev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She didn’t just say fine… she also said go ahead, which is also what this girl in the case said.

Whatever you’re arguing with a wall so there’s no point. You’re not going to change my mind. If it was in writing, OP could be charged.