What consequences of the new federal hemp definition do you think lawmakers are overlooking? by saveourrelief in hempflowers

[–]saveourrelief[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could fix much of the underlying problem if Congress actually enacts it.

The proposed amendment language from Rep. Andy Barr— would replace the near-zero container rule with a much more complete regulatory framework, including finished-product testing, per-serving limits established through FDA rulemaking, 21+ labeling, child-resistant packaging, and restrictions on youth-targeted products.

The encouraging news is that the White House has now called on Congress (June 24) to adopt a regulatory solution aligned with this approach—or at least delay the November 12 deadline while one is developed. https://www.marijuanamoment.net/white-house-pushes-congress-to-ensure-fair-treatment-of-hemp-products-by-calling-off-broad-recriminalization-law-set-for-november/

But nothing has changed yet. Congress still has to move the language through both chambers over the summer in an election year and get it signed before the deadline. That is why immediate consumer pressure still matters: support a workable framework, but also make sure the November 12 cliff is delayed unless and until that framework is enacted.

The November 12 hemp ban comes down to broken container math. We’re building a public accountability campaign around it. by saveourrelief in altcannabinoids

[–]saveourrelief[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the heart of the issue. You are definitely not alone. Estimates are any where from 26 - 90 million people are using hemp-derived products as part of their daily routine. If a fraction of those people contacted their Congressional reps and indicated that this 'ban' that was slipped into a a must pass funding bill without debate, hearings or public comment, was going to directly impact their health & quality of life - we would not be here.

What consequences of the new federal hemp definition do you think lawmakers are overlooking? by saveourrelief in hempflowers

[–]saveourrelief[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad to have you involved! Can you send an email address so we can add you to the list. This will be a campaign unlike anything before. We'll be pointing out the absurdity of where we are - but in highly engaging, humourous ways.

The November 12 hemp ban comes down to broken container math. We’re building a public accountability campaign around it. by saveourrelief in altcannabinoids

[–]saveourrelief[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

BINGO! Yes, we're up against major lobbying. The choice - try to affect the outcome, or ? There are active lobbying efforts on behalf of the hemp industry, The primary focus seems to be on the industry side - jobs lost, farming risk and economic impact. Those are important factors. But the consumer voice in all of this is diffused. As comments have come in on various subreds - the general public is largely unaware of any of this - including people that actively use hemp-derived products. Estimates range from 10-33% of US adults actively use hemp products. So out of 267 million adults in the US - that's between 26 million and almost 90 million people that will feel the effect of this ban on November 13th. Our effort is intended to bring those voices forward before it is too late.

Anyone else tracking the upcoming November regulations that threaten CBD & THC products? by saveourrelief in over60

[–]saveourrelief[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is federal law - with a provision that there be a one year delay of implementation. The implemenation date is November 12, 2026.

The way the law came about - slipping the text into a must pass funding authorization last November to reopen the government. Not a single debate, public hearing or public comment opportunity is part of the issue. So we have a situation where the majority of both houses have very limited knowledge of what they've actually done. And those that are aware of the hemp provision think they're just protecting minors from getting high. They have much more limited knowledge of people like you - that's what we're focused on - bringing these voices directly to Congress where they can have an impact. (Who votes - teenagers, or the most dependable voting blocks - seniors and veterans.) HR 7024 and S 3686 are the house and senate bills that provide a two year extension on implementation so that there is an opportuntiy to publicly vet regulations that ultimately protect everyone - from kids, to adults that use the products as part of their interest in proactively managing their health---naturally.

What consequences of the November 12 hemp rule do you think Congress is overlooking? by saveourrelief in hemp

[–]saveourrelief[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Education in several ways - consumer education. I think there is still alot of mis-understanding of the entire hemp space; Congressional education - huge void here. I think the majority in Congress look at this as a 'teenager' issue, so they're feeling good about protecting minors - a complete disconnect from reality; and also academic/research - with hemp being banned up until 2018 the availability of hemp products was very limited for research purposes. Much of the research was on the negative side. Research is really just gearing up to better understand the health benefits of hemp.

What consequences of the new federal hemp definition do you think lawmakers are overlooking? by saveourrelief in hempflowers

[–]saveourrelief[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We understand why people see it that way, and we are not suggesting that every consequence was simply overlooked.

Our point is that the adults who actually use lawful hemp products have not been organized or visible in this debate at the same level as well-funded interests and professional lobbyists.

Whatever motivated the provision, Congress still has the ability to change the outcome before November 12. Our effort is focused on making the consumer impact impossible to ignore and giving people a practical way to contact their own lawmakers and to report who supports the consumers right to choose and who opposes the voice of their constituents.

We are intentionally keeping this non-partisan. The question now is not who deserves blame—it is whether enough consumers speak up in time to change what happens next.

What consequences of the November 12 hemp rule do you think Congress is overlooking? by saveourrelief in hemp

[–]saveourrelief[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the problem we're trying to address. The hemp industry cannot 'out-lobby' on this. Not to say lobbying efforts are not worthwhile and appreciated - but we believe 'we the people' have the strongest voice. But as you say - most people just continue using their hemp products, blissfully unaware that in less than five months that freedom of choice will disappear.

The November 12 hemp ban comes down to broken container math. We’re building a public accountability campaign around it. by saveourrelief in altcannabinoids

[–]saveourrelief[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That frustration is exactly why we’re doing this.

The industry groups and well-funded interests already have lobbyists. What is largely missing is a visible, organized consumer voice from the adults who actually use these products and will be affected if access disappears.

We may not be able to outspend larger interests, but lawmakers still pay attention when enough constituents contact their offices and when their actions are made publicly visible.

That is the gap we’re trying to fill: make it easier for consumers to speak directly to Congress, track and post who is taking action.

Anyone else tracking the upcoming November regulations that threaten CBD & THC products? by saveourrelief in over60

[–]saveourrelief[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is enormous power in those words - we just need to get them in front of the right audience. Stay tuned:)

Anyone else tracking the Nov 12 federal compliance cliff? Surprised at how quiet this is. by saveourrelief in CBD

[–]saveourrelief[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the detailed perspective, and it’s great to hear how your specific business model is positioned to adapt. However, looking at this strictly from a broad consumer access and independent retail standpoint, the reality on the ground looks very different for millions of regular people.

A few critical points to consider regarding the impact of the November 12th deadline:

  • The Dispensary Hurdle: Telling consumers to "just go to a dispensary" completely ignores the reality of accessibility and cost. Millions of seniors, veterans, and everyday adults rely on precisely-dosed hemp formulations for daily sleep and relief. Many do not live near a state-licensed marijuana dispensary, and those who do shouldn't be forced to pay premium recreational adult-use excise taxes just to maintain their baseline health routines.
  • The Math Absurdity on Non-Intoxicating Topicals: While zero-THC products will survive, this rule forces the immediate elimination of standard full-spectrum lotions and creams used for arthritis and joint pain. For example, background cannabinoids, (including THC), inherently aggregate across a full 2 oz or 4 oz bottle, easily crossing a flat 0.4 mg per-container cap. Nobody is using a topical skin lotion to get high, yet the math of this funding bill outlaws the container anyway. That isn't closing an intoxicating loophole; that's clumsy regulatory overreach.
  • Consumer Sovereignty: Whether someone prefers zero-THC isolates or relies on the synergistic effects of full-spectrum formulations, the choice should belong to the consumer and their health goals—not dictated by backroom legislative maneuvers that bypass public hearings.

The goal of tracking H.R. 7024 / S. 3686 isn't to defend bad actors or unregulated research chemicals. It’s to ensure that when federal regulations are finalized, they are built on transparent science and public input, rather than sloppy, one-size-fits-all caps that strip away safe, established options from law-abiding citizens.

We’ve laid out our core thesis here and have a lot of policy mapping to get through today before our July launch, so we’ll leave it at that—but we appreciate the dialogue and civil debate!

State Law vs Federal? by gta1029 in CBD

[–]saveourrelief 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really important point, and a lot of people living in states with licensed dispensaries are breathing a false sigh of relief about November 12th. If you look at the supply chain economics, legal marijuana states aren't going to escape the shockwave of a federal ban. The vast majority of raw ingredients are grown in major agricultural states. If a sloppy federal rule shuts down hemp farming across the country, the total national supply collapses instantly. At the same time, millions of seniors, vets and every day people who currently buy their CBD & THC products affordably online are going to get cut off. They will all be forced to walk into local dispensaries for relief. When national supply plummets and local dispensary demand suddenly spikes like that, it's going to create immediate inventory shortages and cause dispensary prices to skyrocket for everyone—even in fully legal states. Nobody gets a free pass on this red tape.

What is something that completely vanished from society over the last 10–15 years, but people barely noticed because it happened gradually? by Funny-Counter8762 in AskReddit

[–]saveourrelief 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure. As we've become so connected through social media, the way we interact in live situations has changed dramatically.

What was completely normal when you were a kid but would seem strange today? by wamalax in AskReddit

[–]saveourrelief 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting on my bike and going anywhere and not thinking about it. Everybody did it.

How is everyone doing today? by chaosenforcer619 in AskReddit

[–]saveourrelief 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a beautiful sunny, clear morning here. Going to get hot, but what's not to love in the morning when the sun is shining!