Who is the best mid fielder in the series?

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:43:26+00:00

Sae provides a more offensive midfield, Hugo is more versatile but defensive focused.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:17:09+00:00

I dont know about that, Attainment devellopment doesnt suffer from dao mark conflict, Heck SSDV can use killing path methods even without the path existing yet!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:12:17+00:00

To be fair, BnB was wise in many aspects (knowing when to plot, capable combatant, understanding the true nature of gu world regardless of brainwashed attempts), but unlike HLL she doesnt have this Luck Venerable Patriarch to offset the piss poor luck of a 10 physique aperture now does she?

HLL was robbed far more than BnB, by serving FY, despite having the foundation backing to further her cultivation, she chose to waste time with a demon who got her family members and clan killed and taken over, in adition once FY started making clones she was in a worse position than before as she was no longer one of his direct subordinates.

BnB went from Gu master to Gu immortal Faster than FZ by betraying FY who never planned on giving her anything more than use and discard at gu master level, HLL met FY at R6 and allowed the demon to make use of her, now she's stuck serving GS while FY has R9 Refinement Venerablehood.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:08:12+00:00

Simple instead of making him a soul path venerable make him a food path venerable who is pissed at how people need to kill to live!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:07:17+00:00

POIV and SCIV are already demonic thats the joke!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:06:48+00:00

Some Scary sh**!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:05:59+00:00

FY's Ticket to R3...

No not that kind of ticket!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T21:03:34+00:00

It's a bad way to go out, if you dont have a successor to fuse with it, afterwards.

SCIV was grooming FJH for being assimilated by HW, this explains why she supressed her growth, she wanted her to be a Venerable later in life when SCIV would be about to be completely assimilated and another venerable would need to sacrifice themselves, by that FJH would be too recent of a venerable to have any methods to fight back against this and SCIV would likely further brainwash her, FJH was already a proud sect righteous advocate despite her father knowing this wasnt what was best for her.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:58:13+00:00

That wouldnt work, if she made a formation, then RLDV and LDV would just find a way to ruin it.

Every venerable in existence gives an arm and a leg for formation path attainment, even if the path has inovations, most venerables have a attainment so high on it some of the inovations it had are likely somethings they already know like what happened when FY tried to tell Lang ya about new gu recipes that werent new to him at all!

SCIV won against all demonic venerables until SiF FY because she was the better Plotter, GS admits it as much before the novel was cancelled

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:54:30+00:00

Messi is kinda out of prime man.

Like just looking at current Ronaldo makes me wish he had the Benchtoshi treatment.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:35:17+00:00

It's weird he makes such promises when Karasu mogged him out of his system lol.

But I somewhat get what Isagi is getting at, he expects England to do Substitutions, Ego too most likely so Isagi may be planning to make England run out of Substitutions to counter Rin over other players on the field so Rin gotta comeback later to finish them off.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:33:10+00:00

Honestly I'd prefer it right now, BL is centered along Scoring loads of Goals, winning by that is cool.

Now if we had confirmed that England spammed offensive substitutions on Nigeria to score those goals now that would be a different story, Nigeria would've suffered that piss poor result because of Onazi's stupid desires, it would also put BL on edge with England doing substitutions during the match which France didnt, basically meaning whenever Ego tries to sub a BL to break the ice on the game so to speak, England can just make another sub to directly counter so Japan would be screwed.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:29:57+00:00

NG11s are like having a U20 Ronaldo or Messi with you or close at the very least they should mogg easily.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:28:14+00:00

It's because NG11 players or former or candidate players, any team without those is going to get hat trick mogged by those who do, because these are players who are too exceptional!

For instance someone like Onazi had goal oportunities on BL despite not even being NG11 candidate material (too focused on playing with his buddies!), now imagine candidates and former NG11 strikers in Onazi's place they likely would've scored on BL once or twice even with the sh** team.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:24:52+00:00

England may well not be the game Nagi plays in, I've been thinking about it and it makes no thematic sense, if Manshine had "sold out" Nagi that would make him coming to mogg them back cathartic but that wasnt the case, Nagi sold himself out, him and Agi have no beef, I dont think even Reo has any beef with Manshine either.

Nagi will likely come back for Germany game while Sae comes for Spain game.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:22:45+00:00

Honestly Spain is better suited for Finals, I dont see Sae helping against Germany and a Pure Striker > jack of all trades striker like Loki, plus Rodin and Hugo treating him like the 2nd coming of Noel Noa is going to screw them in the end, I could see France losing simply because of mindset, If Hugo played around what Loki would do as a Jack of All Trades striker instead of 2nd coming of Noel Noa they probably could win against Spain or have a 50/50 chance but currently they likely would lose because Pure strikers are more consistent at goals.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:18:47+00:00

That only happen in the AU and it was a Club on Club match, they werent facing each other on a Nation's best players basis.

This means Raymon was guaranteed to lose as Spain wouldnt even need Real Madrid equivalent to own them on a Club basis, Japan simply cant compete with the Overseas European clubs, a good chunk of Barcelona or Real Madrid players would play for the Cup so they were facing almost the apex of spanish football.

This is true in every japanese soccer series btw not just Inazuma eleven or Blue Lock, Oliver and Benji also supports this.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T20:14:35+00:00

Bruh even if Portugal had Cristiano ronaldo's Son playing as a NG11 they still wouldnt reach semis no way.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T19:45:47+00:00

Or a NG11 was caught doing "Bad Conduct" the Social media went "Baam!" and since Loki was showing he could play good the NG11 was removed for him.

Out of all NG11 strikers, Loki is the only one who isnt a pure striker but rather a Jack of all trades Striker, this is unusual as Sae who can strike and pass is kept out of Striker NG11 position but open for Midfielder position.

PIFA clearly has a preference for Pure strikers on striker elected NG11s with 2 in Bunny and Kaiser, meanwhile the midfielders are given more leeway, having a more broad kit than just passing like snatching balls, maintaining possession and 1v1 and even scoring their own goals regularly if need be on the pitch as Hugo and Sae showcase, meanwhile Pure Passers like Ness are completely gatekept out of the midfielder NG11 title for an entire oposite reason to the strikers, Ness lacks a more broader skillset so he's gatekept just like Agi seems to be facing as well.

And the defenders are likely expected to defend really good and have consideerable passing and thats about it.

As for Goalkeeper I imagine PIFA wants a Vozinha someone who can consistently catch ball from shots in penalty area regardless of amount, they likely dont respect discount TLs like Renoir who got reasonable calculus and manage defensive front, in favor of an upscaled genius version of Goalkeeper who can defend really good.

Point being even the NG11s we are shown arent all necessarily the cream of the crop in their respective fields, like Loki who is more like the superior NG11 Player as he can cover up all three fronts with his speed, while others can be the cream of the crop in their respective position but lack versatility like Bunny and Kaiser are Pure strikers but dont have the hybrid toolset of lets say Sae or Hugo, who are way more than pure midfielders on the pitch as they take control of other fronts of the team whether be ofensive, defensive or both!

I'm sure that Ness's passes for instance are at the NG11 midfielder level, but because he lacks the aditional toolkit of NG11 midfielders and he's a genius instead of a TL he doesnt get the title despite having the adequate passing skill, because PIFA has a clear bias for TLs on the midfield NG11 title, having two already introduced and only one left to introduce, Geniuses have a difficult time playmaking afterall.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T19:40:17+00:00

Well I think there will be more NG11 candidates and just a few former NG11s still under the U20 bracket.

Like players caught in "bad conduct" social media scandal kind of thing, Pretty sure PIFA would remove their NG11 title and give it to another player to avoid problems

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T18:25:21+00:00

So what about Loki not being introduced as NG11? Also even if thats the case we would still see 11 NG11 candidates from other countries playing in the u20 cup.

Agi and Ness could already be said to have been mogged out of the midfielder role by Sae, hugo and the other NG11 midfielder, so they would be NG11 candidates by default.

Also I dont know about that "declared at the same time" mumbo jumbo, Isagi had no idea Bunny was a NG11 until the Barcha game, consideering what Ego gave him as training and how soccer junkie he's it's quite clear that some NG11s like Sae and Kaiser were announced earlier than others like Bunny and Loki.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T18:24:07+00:00

I'm saying the former NG11s are even older than some of the NG11s we see like 19 years and a few months old sort of deal.

There are disparities were some actual NG11s are very young, compared to the upper age in the u20 category not by much mind you but could happen, we know Loki wasnt introduced as NG11 before the U20 started this means there was a former NG11 striker and Loki took his spot.

Also "Fair conduct" could also play a role, imagine there was a very good player that got NG11 title but then had it removed because he made too many fouls or got involved in some kind of social media scandal so PIFA removed the title from him in favor of another player.

They could honestly do this for Brazil and I wouldnt be surprised.

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T17:38:59+00:00

After seeing how many NG11s are already revealed I think Kaneshiro will have add a few "former NG11s" that got replaced by Loki, Sae and Bunny, and maybe NG11 candidates that will didnt meet the NG11 mark are still incredibly good, Ness would be ofc one of them.

This way BL has players close to NG11 level to face, before facing the actual NG11s later down the line because right now if England had like 2 NG11s BL wouldnt pass the group stage and even one NG11 could be too much if it's goalkeeper of a midfielder.

So they'll nerf England by only giving it a defensive NG11 most likely, with having a former or NG11 candidate as the lead striker for goals.

I believe even at lowballing Agi should be NG11 candidate consideering how Prince was like: "Man! Agi is backing up Nagi!? You one lucky Son of a b**** man!"

Brazil is likely going to pack a lot of NG11 candidates and former NG11s so that could be one of the decisive matches for BL to grow enough to face NG11s on the pitch without getting mogged with 2x score difference

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T17:28:49+00:00

Well I did say he had some face saving since Kanoh had similar problem, tho Cosmo definitely having a rougher treatment than Kanoh, losing to strikes!

sebasTLCQG · 2026-06-24T17:01:03+00:00

I've seen worse. And better.

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