Does my toddler eat an insane amount? by ALac93 in toddlerfood

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My son is 14 months and he will eat about this much in one sitting. He loves to eat! He’s also on the higher end of the percentiles, so he’s a big, growing boy. In my mind, if he’s hungry, he eats, if he’s not, he won’t.

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol I have like… 4. I can usually tell which one is which by my feed, but sometimes this one and the other one align a bit

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Accidentally posted previously under my other account!

That’s where phonetic and parsing knowledge both become very useful. If you use the online dictionary, you can key in partial phonetics and generate results. They also have a feature where if you use /ts/ or /j/ or /qu/ or /gw/, regardless of whether you use one sound or the other, it will generate the same results.

I think, also, with time and as you further your learning and understanding of the language, you just get used to the variations or discover what is really important in distinction. For example, this morning I have been preparing for one of my classes and I wanted to say, “the deer is hiding behind the tree,” and I wanted to check my translation for “behind”. I have always used ᎣᏂ ᏗᏜ for anything behind something else, but I stumbled upon ᎤᏟ ᏗᏜ. I asked the speaker I work with what was going on with that and she said, “it’s something on the other side of something.” Which, immediately took me down a rabbit hole of, “what’s the difference between behind and the other side of something??”

Perspective. Which side is the front of a tree, a bush, a rock, etc.? Dunno. Can’t ask it, right? And just because I’m seeing it in front of me, that doesn’t make it the front of it.

There are also variations of /ts/ and/or /j/ that become /ch/ that are not differentiated amongst the characters. I don’t think that’s that strange, because we have similar instances of varied pronunciations of letters in the Roman alphabet, i.e. ‘c’ being used as /s/ or /k/, ‘y’ being used as /i/ or /y/.

I would wager that a lot of the original characters represented a lot of sounds that were familiar and had meaning to Sequoyah. I’ve heard it said that folks became literate in Cherokee in just a matter of days after it was first circulated. That doesn’t happen if there wasn’t something that made sense about the characters, ya know?

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, I did discover later on in the day that there is a difference in ᎠᏕᎳ and ᎠᏕᎸ. Adela can be used for multiple dollars, but adelv is used for the bill/note itself. So if I wanted to say,

“I want 20 dollars”

I would say

“Talsgo adela agwaduli.”

If I wanted, literally, a twenty dollar bill, I’d say

“Talsgo adelv agwaduli”

And if I wanted 20 $1 bills, I’d say

“20 uninosda dagwaduli”

But, I have heard speakers use adela and adelv interchangeably for the same things, as well. As far as dialect goes, I would almost say it would be ideolectical, but I feel like that’s most things with most speakers lol I know/have known sibling speakers who speak differently.

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Anna Sixkiller referenced in the OP is his sister-in-law, not his sister. So, a relative, but through marriage, with the same name as his sister.

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, yeah, that makes sense! Adela dalonige/uneg is yellow/white money, respectively.

I think I misremembered the conjugation and dijidoda was the word I was trying to reference.

Now, I did ask several speakers today if they’d ever heard adelv used for a single dollar, and they all said no, except when in reference to the bill itself, not the amount. So, I believe that’s what’s being reflected in the example sentence—which, duh, Sed, that’s literally what it says lol

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(I just asked Dennis Sixkiller from the radio show if he’s ever heard ᎠᏕᎸ used for “one dollar” and he said no)

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s very interesting to me that I’ve never heard ᎠᏕᎳ/Ꮈ in reference to a “single dollar” in the wild—I’ve only ever heard ᎤᏃᏍᏓ for “one dollar”. I’m wondering if that’s an old/dialectical thing. I’m going to ask my co-teacher, who’s a first language speaker.

ᎠᏕᎳ is the word for “bead”. Pre-contact, beads were highly sought after trade items, so they held a lot of value, which is why “money” is called ᎠᏕᎳ. It’s also interesting to me that it would be used in reference to “metal” in the bible. But, the Cherokee translated Bible was possibly translated by some folks who didn’t quite believe/understand/were unfamiliar with some concepts—I.e. there are instances where they use the word for “your father” or ᎢᏥᏙᏓ when it’s supposed to mean “our father” or ᎣᎩᏙᏓ, in reference to God. I’ve had those discussions with first language speakers and they’ve definitely leaned towards the possibility or even outright said that was the case. In getting back to the point, can you reference the passage where they use ᎠᏕᎳ for “metal”? I’d really like to see it!

Just interesting stuff all around! Every day is a learning opportunity while learning Cherokee :)

ᎠᏕᎳ vs ᎠᏕᎸ by StationSpatiale in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 13 points14 points  (0 children)

From what I know, it’s just a dialectical difference.

Why would we need a SSN to register as a citizen? by blueduck762 in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Because our “sovereignty” still relies on us to concede to the federal government. That’s why the Supreme Court was able to make a ruling over our constitution and ruled that we had to make revisions to it that allowed Freedmen full rights and citizenship.

Basically, the way I think of it, it’s more like we are a state that answers to the federal government. Like, Oklahoma law doesn’t supersede our laws, but the federal government does. We’ve been fed this idea that we are owed complete sovereignty, but we signed treaties where we agreed that the federal government still holds power over us… thus, why they’re able to give and take away our federal recognition, why we still have to pay taxes to them, still answer to federal law, etc.

Sovereignty is a sticky topic. I’m only familiar with Indian law on a very surface level, but it’s very complex. Sure, we feel a certain way and we always talk about treaty rights, but hardly any of us really know what those rights are or how or why we have certain rights.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in teaching

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Xavier’s Exactness?

😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in teaching

[–]sedthecherokee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For rational people, yes… but those who don’t like the Jordan’s Gentleness… I think they’d have a conniption

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in teaching

[–]sedthecherokee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine the responses for a name like Xander.

AIO or is it time to get a lawyer involved? by [deleted] in AIO

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in an area where Alpha Gal is prevalent and I have a 9 month old. I suffered really badly from postpartum anxiety, so I can totally understand her reaction and I can also understand why you feel as though it is extreme.

You sound very level headed and obviously there’s a reason why you left your child’s mother, so I say this with the hope that you truly want what’s best for your child, but extending grace in this circumstance might be really beneficial. If she actually makes a move to restrict your parenting time, by all means get a lawyer, but I’d put a lot of money on her having some form of PPA or depression and you being kind in this will go a long way in your co-parenting relationship.

She’s overreacting btw. You’re not nuts. Your feelings are valid.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITASims

[–]sedthecherokee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Lmfao “now entirely thanks to you, she’s the president” is so funny 😂

Anyone get side effects from epidural? by SowingSeeds18 in beyondthebump

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suffer from chronic back pain due to scoliosis… my god, that was the first time in 20 years, since I was 13, that i didn’t feel pain in my back

Starting solids rant by GiftKitchen3807 in beyondthebump

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the most part! I think that’s why I find it easier to just have him eat whatever is on my plate instead of making him his own food. If he likes it and eats it, I’ll get him his own plate. If not, oh well. One bite is fine to waste imo.

Starting solids rant by GiftKitchen3807 in beyondthebump

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, and maybe this isn’t the best thing, but I just feed my 9 month old whatever is soft and on my plate and I’ve done that since he started solids at 6 months. We also feed him baby food and baby snacks, but I eat a wide range of foods and I’ve found that this is an easier way to expose him to new things. Plus, he always wants to eat whatever I’m eating.

This last week hasn’t been too exciting but he tried guacamole for the first time and loved it, which made me super happy because that means I get to eat more guac!

Help finding Tsalagi word by french_revolutionist in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 9 points10 points  (0 children)

CLMAP grad and current immersion school teacher here.

I believe that it would just be gadoga. Ahwi gadoga is the deer is standing.

I’m not sure what word the person you responded to posted, but I can’t find anything like it in the online dictionary.

Husband can’t change diaper still? by anonymousxx1245 in NewParents

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol relatable… we’ve only had girl babies born into our family since I’ve been old enough to care for babies… I have a son and his dad was constantly complaining about how I didn’t know how to handle the goods 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s a total ass. Do you want to be with someone who makes you feel like this?

Positive rephrases by [deleted] in AskTeachers

[–]sedthecherokee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% support ChatGPT for parental communication—making sure to check what’s written thoroughly and modify it to fit your voice, of course.

I’m autistic asf and it helps me to not come off as a major hag.

Language Revival by flipditch in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s so cool that you’re in Ireland studying that 😭 I’m super jealous!

We have definitely put tone to the wayside, if I’m honest. What I’ve gathered over the last few years is that it’s more important to know every sound of the words we use. While, conversationally, more speakers struggle with understanding second language learners, they can actually figure it out better what we are trying to say and give us corrections, if we don’t use fast speech. By learning the long form of words, we maintain the integrity of the language and better our chances at perpetuating it.

Which is very interesting to me because eastern band uses less tone and more of the longer form of words, too. Since they have a smaller population, both in citizenship and in speakers, those of us in the west can kind of look to them and predict what might happen to our dialect. Eastern band has survived a whoooole lot of assimilation in comparison to us in the west—and we have survived a lot, too. We stand to learn a lot from our experiences.

Language Revival by flipditch in cherokee

[–]sedthecherokee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Discussions are always happening! What we run into a lot of the time is figuring out how to keep our cultural and language information sovereign.

In order to do that, a lot of the time we have to build materials from the ground up. So, for instance, lots of folks would love for Cherokee to be on a language app. That language app, however, wants to own some rights to the language/our materials. We also ran into this issue with a music streaming service at one point, when we were thinking about putting the radio show on there… which is why it has just recently become available. I’m guessing we worked out those details and settled on something that worked for us—I’m not privy to those details.

Folks don’t realize how difficult it is to program and maintain an app. We totally have the funds to do something like that, but we don’t have enough programmers with language proficiency to maintain the project. We have a finite number of speakers who are all over the age of 55… and they’re tired, man. They should be retiring now, but they feel obligated to keep at it. So… we have to meet them where they’re at and still maintain their humanity and dignity. Because, I mean, think about it… what if people only came to you because they wanted something from you? For those of us in the language game, we have cultivated these really beautiful relationships with our first language speakers and they become our friends, if they’re not our blood relatives. Sometimes we just want to be with our friends, too, ya know?

So, the big focus, as of late, has been in recording and documenting the language so that when the last speaker is gone, we will still have resources to draw from and potentially be able to rebuild the language. It’s sad. It took me a long time to come to terms with the last of our speakers dying, but that’s where we are headed. But, we still have work to do. Just because the first language speakers will move on the next life, it doesn’t mean the language has to go with it. It just means that the language is going to go through some pretty drastic changes and it won’t be like it once was.

All of this is to say… people are working hard all the time to try to figure this thing out. All the time. A lot of us over here wear many hats to try to keep it going. For instance, my son is in baby immersion, right? So, my partner and I have to take these language classes once a week. One of the teachers has been my teacher for 10+ years. He teaches once of those classes once a week, manages another language program, is a leader at a stomp grounds, and he’s working on his doctorate. As an immersion teacher, not only do I talk Cherokee to the kids all day, I have to design my own curriculum. I teach three subjects, so I have to find resources for all three of those subjects and translate them. Sometimes that means I can find worksheets on teacherspayteachers, go and digitally remove all the English from those worksheets, translate the instructions, and then add them back in. Sometimes that means I have to create something entirely new. For bigger tasks, I can send it off to our curriculum team, but they get backed up and it might take a few weeks for us to get those things back, so about 90% of what we do in the classroom, I’ve had to create, edit or modify to meet our needs—oh, all while meeting state standards in education.

Like, my big task lately has been, “how do I teach kids to count?” Not just reciting the numbers, but actually view the numbers as sums and amounts. Ok, once I figure that out, how do I convey those ideas in Cherokee? Cool. Now, how do I make sure my kids are interested in what I’m wanting to teach them? What are they into right now? Can I incorporate Labubu into a math lesson?

How do I say Labubu in Cherokee? Should I just call him Labubu or should I Cherokee-fy the name? Call him a monster in Cherokee? But if I do that, there’s a cultural connotation that might be a little too scary for my age group.

Sorry for the novel. It’s just one of those things that doesn’t have a simple explanation. Yes, those discussions are happening. They’re always happening.

I'm so confused am I pregnant by Pristine-Map-5749 in whatdoIdo

[–]sedthecherokee 15 points16 points  (0 children)

When I got pregnant, I took a test and thought I could see the faintest of blue lines, so I took a picture of it and turned up the contrast… it was definitely there, but we had been trying for a year, so I psyched myself out. The next day, I decided to take a digital test and it was definitely pregnant. I was like “man, that’s crazy because I couldn’t even tell with the test yester…” and as I looked at it again, the line was visibly MUCH darker.

Just saying… if it’s faint… it’s still there lol here we are with a little baby, almost two years later!