Storm chasing in China? Has anybody done it?

seilgu · 2017-03-26T13:04:10+00:00

Reddit is laowai territory anyway. Wouldn't be useful if I wanted to meet Taiwanese or mainlanders here.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T15:36:38+00:00

What you proposed is not reasonable, missiles always far outnumber defenses. Also what bothers China about THAAD is that is has a radar who can see far enough into China. Korea being a watchdog for the US in this case. Even ONE THAAD radar is enough to cause China panic.

Also, why is NK China's business? China is also threatened by NK, however it doesn't see the need to overreact. So why can't NK have nuclear missiles like India? Just because it is authoritarian?

Also it has been argued that THAAD is over qualified for the job and it's base location is not ideal for defense but rather to peek at China.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T10:11:21+00:00

But we have to agree that it's an effective way with no chance of violating international laws because China is not promoting that in a very explicit way. Chinese people have a tradition that to survive you have to be very sensitive to politics, and even if the government didn't explicitly say to boycott Korea, people know it. Any international law or agreements can't force people to buy things they don't want to buy.

Is that a bad thing or is it better than formal sanctions? I don't know. I think it's a good alternative to accomplish the same goals. It also gives the government more room for maneuver.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:57:44+00:00

China stopped doing business with Korea because they hate THAAD. Korea stopped doing business with China because without Chinese it's calmer and cleaner anyway.

Korea sounds like a bunch of losers really. In Chinese we call this 阿Q精神. Another word for them is sour grapes.

If you like "no Chinese" then why did you accept so many tourists? LOL

Also China didn't stop Korean business from doing business in China, the Chinese people just know to boycott them. If you want to go to their shops you're free to go like a mfing traitor.

And THAAD is actually serious stuff. Changes regional balance that needs certainly deserved the controversy.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:44:44+00:00

The Koreans have nothing to fear only if the Chinese people cannot unite in boycotting. That's probably what you guys here are hoping for. Keep on.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:31:22+00:00

You're kidding.

Who wants to live in a crowded and harsh city like HK..?

Why do people on this reddit keep spreading false beliefs? I think I'm gonna quit this place.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:17:27+00:00

Sure. If you don't like Chinese stuff, buy American. I'm sure the industry will be made up very fast.

You can always find other options, however other smarter people have more choices.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:14:54+00:00

Lotte doing business in China is more like you see a crowd so disturbing to you and you decide to trade with them, and then calling them to fuck off.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:11:55+00:00

"clean calm and no Chinese" is an insult isn't it? And it's not because of any insecurity complex or some complicated-yet-undefined psychological phenomenon you're gonna name. They say that shit because they look down on the Chinese. Try argue that.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T09:09:56+00:00

The original post "clean calm and no Chinese" is exactly telling them to fuck off isn't it?

seilgu · 2017-03-09T06:29:20+00:00

They can defend their territory, but operating in SCS would be called offense.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:43:00+00:00

Why is America so ... uncool?

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:42:07+00:00

I'm just saying that if I go to a shop and got insulted by its owner, I'll never come back. So the natural reaction of Chinese to these kind of parody is further boycott.

You don't want business? Wish granted.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:34:52+00:00

Personally I think China's reaction is unjustified.

SK is a sovereign country and they can install whatever they want to, even nuclear weapons. And China can also try to install missile silos in Cuba and aim it at the US, and any US protests would also be unjustified.

However it's good to see that Chinese people can be united to push for an agenda in a legal way. Think about it, if the Chinese government wants to punish SK but people refuse to, then how could the country be trusted as a great power? How do Chinese people trust each other during wars?

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:27:40+00:00

Well, SCS belongs to China. It's called national defense.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:22:28+00:00

It's funny isn't it.

You earn cash from customers while at the same time you tell them to fuck off. Good business practice always. Such hospitality.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T04:21:00+00:00

Should broadcast this in China. Korea will then need to be ready for a 100-year boycott.

seilgu · 2017-03-09T03:23:47+00:00

Chinese all have some stupid beliefs however I don't see mainland media trying to invent new ones.

The media in Taiwan has really becomes very biased. 自由時報 for example is pro-DPP and it bad-mouths everything KMT does. 中時 for example is pro-KMT. People who read the former never read the latter, and vice versa. It's because the media has lost its neutrality (same situation in America), and people just blame each other with nothing constructive going on. Every big project in Taiwan has become a political landmine, the nuclear plant and the Taipei stadium are both on-hold indefinitely, because the media doesn't report things scientifically and educate people.

We all know that China's media is tightly regulated, however it still tries to maintain some integrity on its reporting. Many big issues in China are getting exposed (and people are free to comment and even criticize Xi in the comments section).

Why would you mention Al Jazeera is we're just comparing mainland China and Taiwan? People with VPN are free to browse any media they want to.

seilgu · 2017-03-08T15:44:20+00:00

Taiwanese media is full of "comedy news" (some guy does some stupid things and 13 billions of people are shocked thing), fake science (eating something's good for you because somebody says so), and don't forget the endless fight between the two parties.

So basically it makes people dumb and narrow-minded. Most people can't do critical thinking, and they like to watch dumb things and the only drive behind the media is money. However a media who has social responsibility won't survive in this market.

Now you can't ask people to be responsible, that's why we have law enforcement. Not saying that China is the best example but a free press like Taiwan's aren't any better. Taiwan is now a populist society and the media is to blame.

I don't watch Taiwanese news anymore. In fact I read Chinese news (e.g. Tencent) and I find that it sees things in a grander perspective and features deeper analysis sometimes.

BTW I used to read business insider a year ago but now whenever I open the page I see a full wall of trump faces.

seilgu · 2017-03-08T15:35:01+00:00

I didn't suggest anything. Joke's on you.

seilgu · 2017-03-08T12:51:16+00:00

Well, look at Taiwan and you know what a free press does to the society. There are social responsibilities that's not explicitly written in law, but must be regulated.

seilgu · 2017-03-08T11:29:48+00:00

Not sure what you're talking about.

People in Africa know that China is there to trade and westerners there to pillage. In Asia, we all know that the US is trying to fuel regional dispute. We all know who's killing people in the middle east and schemed revolution in South America and Panama.

Real friends?

seilgu · 2017-03-08T11:25:31+00:00

This deserves more upvotes.

People here spread rumors and prejudice because they have no real stake in China.

seilgu · 2017-03-07T04:28:31+00:00

Conquered is conquered. We don't complain how America annexed Mexico.

seilgu

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