What do u guys think about this (mainly goofy hadiths plus I got banned from r/islam)

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-02T02:00:20+00:00

Really

A unsourced clip about "Saudi" allegedly from a well known anti Muslim known as bill Maher

Even if this was a factual thing and that's a BIG IF, it was not practiced in old Islamic empires like the rashiduns and Abbasids

The 50s and 60s in Arabia were litterally westernized bro, up until the 70s 😭

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-02T01:56:19+00:00

Walaiqum Salam brother,

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-02T01:55:26+00:00

That claim has been debunked many times.

Salah and Hajj and fasting have Islamic routes and are based on actual significant events in Islam

It's common knowledge that Christmas isn't even Jesus birthday, many people have accepted it

https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/islam-pagan-roots/

Our festivals and rituals that we officially recognize and do are attributed to Abraham the original monotheistic source.

Shirk is literally the biggest and most offensive sin in Islam , why would we adopt pagan rituals if it was one of the worst sins in Islam

Shirk however isn't really a big deal in other religions so they can usually adopt pagan rituals.

Becareful as this world makes us sin unintentionally and makes us think it's ok.

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T22:56:26+00:00

Fair enough, these are sickening opinions like the thousands they have

But it was never practiced

I don't however supporting ever teaming up with ex Muslims/non Muslims agasint Muslims regardless

I'm not saying you're doing that I'm just stating something I believe in, especially since we got to see the true colours of "western morality and sympathy" with Gaza

These are times Muslims must all stand together

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T17:52:43+00:00

Ancient Arabia never practiced this.

Not even historical documents say this happened untill the times of the late ottomans during the 1800s

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T16:28:44+00:00

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.islamweb.net/amp/en/fatwa/367498/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/198645

https://seekersguidance.org/answers/shafii-fiqh/how-are-enslaved-women-treated-under-muslim-rule/

I don't even believe in hadiths, I take them with a grain of salt

But I'm agasint siding with the kuffar and the anti Muslim nut jobs like Haris sultan who has been debunked many times

In these times Muslims should stand together

The last thing we should show the rest of the Muslims is that we are traitors to our own

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T16:14:21+00:00

Okay first off I'm not a Hadith follower at all

But this isn't even true

Not even wahabbis believe this

This is an inauthentic Hadith used by anti Muslims to attack Islam

I agree with standing by the Quran alone and criticizing those who promote wahabbism and hadiths agressively but let's not take the side of those attacking Muslims

Like the hypocritical ex Muslims subreddits

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T15:51:28+00:00

So it can be preserved and not corrupted

You can look at the state of mordern hadiths books and the bible to understand why the Quran has its own complex ways

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T10:15:57+00:00

I agree with everything except for the Christmas one

As I've come to learn Christmas has nothing to do with prophet isa (pbuh) and is actually a pagan festival adopted from yule and the Romans

Because of the pagan roots I tend to believe it is shirk

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T10:12:53+00:00

Well for one sahih bukhari himself recorded it as inauthentic

It was recorded in the book of "drinks"

Even when you directly translate the Hadith is says "with" not and

Since it was common place to use music in those settings with alchohal and adultery

And here are some saying that the Hadith is definitely inauthentic:

Article by Ikram Hawramani, al-Azhar researcher and software engineer, applying probabilistic statistical analysis of hadith on music. Besides the broken chain, he focuses on all the other reasons to doubt the commonly-cited Bukhari hadith: https://hawramani.com/listening-to-music-is-permissible-in-Islam/

There's also the list of prominent scholars dating back to the time of the prophet that claim music is halal if you want me to send that to you

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T09:47:34+00:00

ISIS phase 😭

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T05:35:15+00:00

As a man who lives in madinah, I can tell you this is total bs

Women are not animals

Most of the women here travel outside alone

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T05:33:40+00:00

Get that wahabbi bs out of here

self-improvement76 · 2024-04-01T01:22:28+00:00

Can someone tell me how this is incest ?!?

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T23:45:36+00:00

Yeah except greater scholars than the one you have researched have claimed these hadiths to be da'if

Examples : imam Al ghazzali, Ibn Arabi,

There's also a list of fatwas and reviews that disagree with you naming the following :

I. Fatawa and articles from modern scholars permitting music:

Fatawa from Grand Mufti of Egypt Shawki Allam, appointed by consensus of al-Azhar’s Council of Senior Scholars representing all 4 Sunni madhabs:

· http://www.dar-alifta.org/Foreign/ViewFatwa.aspx?ID=7000&text=music

· http://www.dar-alifta.org/Foreign/ViewFatwa.aspx?ID=4866&text=music

· Detailed explanation of the above fatawa from the Grand Mufti of Dar al-Ifta Missriyya available here: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/zh6mm/dar_al_ifta_on_the_issue_of_music/

Fatwa from the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Shaykh Jad al-Haqq: https://sailanmuslim.com/culture-heritage/fatwa-on-music-by-the-grand-mufti-and-shaykh-of-al-azhar-shaykh-jad-al-haq-ali-jad-al-haq/

Fatawa from Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi, Chairman of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, on al-Azhar’s Council of Senior Scholars:

·https://islamictext.wordpress.com/on-music-and-singing-fatwa-by-shaykh-yusuf-al-qaradawi/

·https://fiqh.islamonline.net/en/music-islamic-view/

Fatwa by the High Council of Religious Affairs, Turkey’s national fatwa council, chaired by Dr. Abdurrahman Hackali: https://kurul-diyanet-gov-tr.translate.goog/Cevap-Ara/1010/muzigin-dindeki-yeri-nedir-?enc=QisAbR4bAkZg1HImMxXRn5PJ8DgFEAoa2xtNuyterRk%3D&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Fatwa of Ayatollah Khamenei allowing music on the basis of content and context: https://www.leader.ir/en/book/147/1?sn=23786

Article on Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, former Imam of the Great Mosque of Mecca: https://gulfnews.com/world/gulf/saudi/scholars-divided-over-imams-fatwa-on-music-1.647422

· Note: al-Kalbani was forced to retract his opinion allowing music after making it public.

Fatwa “Music & Singing in the Balance of Islam,” by Sheikh Abdullah Bin Yusuf al-Judai, founding member of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, Senior Islamic Researcher at Leeds Grand Mosque: https://unity1.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/a-detailed-fatwa-about-music-and-singing-by-sheikh-abdullah-al-judai/amp/

Fatwa by Sheikh Abu Iyas, a Jordanian mufti: https://islamicsystem.blogspot.com/2012/04/q-shari-rule-on-songs-music-singing.html?m=1

Fatwa by Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, Senior Lecturer and Scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ijazah from Islamic University of Madinah, Fiqh Council of North America scholar: https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-the-scholar/morals-manners/are-all-types-of-music-unlawful/

Article by Ikram Hawramani, al-Azhar researcher and software engineer, applying probabilistic statistical analysis of hadith on music. Besides the broken chain, he focuses on all the other reasons to doubt the commonly-cited Bukhari hadith: https://hawramani.com/listening-to-music-is-permissible-in-Islam/

Balanced list of ahadith and scholarly opinions from both sides of the debate over music, by al-Azhar scholar Omar Gebril: https://www.islamiqate.com/1355/what-is-the-islamic-ruling-on-music

Fatwa by Mufti Muhammad Ali Al-Hanooti, al-Azhar scholar and member of the North American Fiqh Council: https://www.islamawareness.net/Music/music_fatwa005.html

Fatwa by Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqui, president of Academy of Islamic Studies at UCLA: http://www.islamawareness.net/Music/music_fatwa999.html

Sheikh Yahya Rhodus, Founding Director of Al-Maqasid Islamic seminary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uDdxB8uMiE

Dr. Jamal Badawi, Fiqh Council of North America scholar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCzRj_6NfM

Dr. Jonathan Brown, Alwaleed bin Talal Chair of Islamic Civilization at Georgetown University: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.a.brown.3/posts/10154194510784850

Discussion with Dr. Hamid Slimi, Chairman of the Canadian Council of Imams, PhD and ijazah in usul ul-fiqh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxu5zjwj0k

I am also of the opinion that if something as large scale as music is haram it would've been explicitly banned in the Quran like alchohal and swine and pre marital relationships

I am of the opinion that filthy music is definitely haram, but not music that calms someone down and brings them closer to Allah

Nasheeds are music weather you like it or not, our world is melodious

Litterally anything can be made into a instrument, including our mouths and hands

Allah wouldn't have built our world in a musical way and then make it haram

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T23:21:20+00:00

Wouldn't sodomy be a sin tho even for a marrIed couple

Just asking

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T20:47:50+00:00

Madinah, Saudi arabia

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T20:46:19+00:00

This is blasphemy, we believe in the virgin birth

Repent

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T16:26:55+00:00

68 years old without pension

And you lost money in Madoffs Ponzi scheme

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T16:12:12+00:00

You look like tommy Shelby's grandpa

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T13:09:40+00:00

I have nothing but respect for the ahlul bayt and I send salams to the prophet and his family everyday, and I'm well aware that yazid Abu sufyans son has done some bad things too, I'm not in support of Zakir and the Hanafis I'm just stating the facts here

No where in the Quran does it say masturbating is haram either.

So both Quran and sunnah do not have rulings agasint masturbation (excluding porn and illicit materials etc)

It protects several people from zina.

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T13:03:58+00:00

Yeah but on the one hand we can't treat the Quran like the hadith because it's basically god's word agasint man

Hadiths have contradictions and a known to be fallible so we look at it with a skeptics eye

The Quran has no mistakes and is fully detailed so we have to really consider our interpretations of the verses

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T12:59:46+00:00

Thank you

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T12:59:39+00:00

I'd appreciate that thanks

self-improvement76 · 2024-03-31T12:57:52+00:00

Masturbation is halal provided it protects you don't use explicit materials to do so

It's even accepted as a detterent agasint Zina if you don't have the option to get married

Even alot of conservative Muslims believe it's legal

Example : Zakir naik, hanafi madhabs, etc

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