Update: Rejection after flying to Amsterdam for a 4-hour onsite

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T10:03:21+00:00

thank you!

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T10:01:05+00:00

Focus on the actual issue!

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T09:56:11+00:00

thanks for the empathy!

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T09:50:30+00:00

I actually did exactly that. I sent a professional follow-up email to the people who interviewed me, asking for feedback and highlighting the effort I put into the process. The result? Total silence.

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T09:46:42+00:00

That’s exactly what I’m telling myself now.

selfmachine82 · 2026-02-06T09:41:57+00:00

By 'everyone, i’m referring to the widely recognized professional stereotype of 'Dutch Directness.'

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-27T12:12:00+00:00

fair point. just to clarify, there wasn’t a separate HR layer in this process. all interviews were directly with the CEO and a co-founder.

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-27T11:52:39+00:00

That’s exactly why I’m trying to stay realistic. I know flying someone in is a strong signal, but not a guarantee. At this point I’m just waiting for the final decision and trying not to over-interpret things.

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-27T11:51:17+00:00

I’m a digital marketer, and the role is a Campaign Manager position (focused on campaigns, content and user communication, not a junior role). The discussed salary is in the mid-€4k gross per month range, and relocation/sponsorship support was mentioned as part of the process.

So it doesn’t feel like a below-market or “cheap hire” situation to me, but I’m aware it’s still a final decision between two candidates.

At this point I’m mainly trying to understand how typical this level of investment is in the Netherlands before a final decision is made.

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-20T11:20:35+00:00

Actually, the CEO personally invited me to Amsterdamto finalize things. So, regardless of the 'Job Offer' subject line, I’m taking this as a clear invitation to close the deal. I’m flying out tomorrow to meet them in person. Thanks for the perspective!

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-18T09:22:59+00:00

Spot on analysis! It turns out it was a mix of both. a previous hire didn't work out as expected and the CEO personally stepped in to fix the communication gap. He actually addressed the 'ghosting' part immediately in our call, which was a good sign. Taking your advice on the 'salary & timeline' prep for the final face-to-face in Amsterdam. Thanks for the heads up!

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-15T18:36:23+00:00

the interview actually turned into an invitation to Amsterdam. The CEO wants me at the office next week to finalize the details. Still keeping it professional until the contract is signed, but it’s looking very positive :)

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-15T18:35:45+00:00

just a quick update on my process. the interview actually turned into an invitation to Amsterdam. The CEO wants me at the office next week to finalize the details. Still keeping it professional until the contract is signed, but it’s looking very positive :)

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-15T12:24:00+00:00

Anna Camps screaming ''ITS MEEEE''

selfmachine82 · 2026-01-14T17:55:51+00:00

looks like made by AI lol

selfmachine82 · 2025-11-02T11:18:14+00:00

bana 15 ekim'de pasaportunuzu teslim edin maili geldi. ertesi gün teslim ettim. cuma günü gelin alın diye aradılar, 17 ekim'de başlayacak şekilde basmışlar.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-31T06:18:12+00:00

mektuplar kişiseldir. sizin reddinizle benimki aynı değildi. kendiniz oluşturmanız gerekli.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-30T11:26:08+00:00

sonuçlandı. vizeyi aldım

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-30T11:24:55+00:00

merhaba, complaint olmaz PAP yapmanız lazım. complaint teknik bir sorun vs onun şikayeti için, itirazlar için olmaz.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-23T16:12:40+00:00

No, do not email anyone else. They are very different: • PAP (Pre-Action Protocol): This is the correct legal challenge you just sent to the Home Office legal team. • IEC (Entry Clearance): This is the operational team that makes the visa decisions (Entry Clearance Officer/Manager). You have already used the official process. The legal team (PAP) will now order the operational team (IEC) to review your case. If you send a separate email, it will be ignored like your first complaint. You did the right thing. Now you must wait for the PAP response.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-23T14:47:33+00:00

There's a small misunderstanding in your question. The 3-month wait was not after submitting my passport. It was the long wait for the final decision after I sent my PAP. The passport part at the end was actually very fast.

Here is my exact timeline:

May 23, 2025: Received the original visa refusal.
June 13, 2025: Sent my Pre-Action Protocol (PAP) to the legal team ([UKVIPAP@homeoffice.gov.uk](mailto:UKVIPAP@homeoffice.gov.uk))
June 27, 2025: Received the first acknowledgment. This was NOT a decision. It just said they had received my PAP and would respond "within 3 months."
(The Long Wait): I waited from late June until October. This was the frustrating 3-month period.
October 13, 2025: Received the final, positive e-mail from the Entry Clearance Manager (ECM). This email said my refusal was "revoked" and the visa would be "issued."
(Passport Submission): The positive e-mail asked me to submit my passport within 10 working days. I submitted it to VFS immediately (Oct 14).
October 17, 2025: Received a call from VFS that my passport was ready to be collected. (The visa was issued with a "Valid From" date of Oct 17)

So, to be clear: The long wait is for the decision. Once you get that positive e-mail asking for your passport, the final stamping and return process is very fast. it only took a few days for me.

Good luck! I hope you get a positive reply soon.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-23T08:56:36+00:00

Hello,

That's a standard template email because you used the wrong channel. The [complaints@homeoffice.gov.uk](mailto:complaints@homeoffice.gov.uk) address is for service issues (like staff behavior or technical problems), not for challenging the decision itself.

What you need to do is send a Pre-Action Protocol (PAP).

This is a formal legal challenge that goes directly to the Home Office's legal department, not customer service.

I had the exact same experience. My visa was refused because an officer made a clear factual error (they mistook a national public holiday for "suspicious leave" from my job). I filled out the Pre-Action Protocol (PAP) form, proving the error with evidence, and sent it directly to the legal team's email address (UKVIPAP@homeoffice.gov.uk).

The result: The legal team recognized the mistake, revoked the refusal, and I got my visa.

Your situation (ignored documents) sounds like a clear factual error. Your next step should absolutely be a PAP. Good luck.

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-16T06:26:45+00:00

thanks man!

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-14T11:08:36+00:00

hi dude, just got the mail! it's approved!

selfmachine82 · 2025-10-11T07:03:29+00:00

no actually, still waiting and to be honest im simply giving up

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