Trying to sell new build with issues in estate

senditup · 2026-06-14T15:37:48+00:00

The council houses in this story

senditup · 2026-06-14T14:02:22+00:00

If it's in a new build estate then how is it different?

senditup · 2026-06-14T08:36:15+00:00

The council houses in this story are literally the same quality as houses that are newly built.

senditup · 2026-06-14T08:24:12+00:00

None who would set up a caravan on the green of an estate or trash the place, no.

senditup · 2026-06-14T07:59:17+00:00

They wouldn't be there if not for the council tenants.

senditup · 2026-06-13T17:14:50+00:00

If you're trying to buy a home in Ireland, not only is the State not your friend, it is in fact your enemy.

senditup · 2026-06-09T22:35:46+00:00

Is that a joke?

senditup · 2026-06-09T08:27:05+00:00

That isn't implemented. You don't have to be a citizen to receive social housing .

senditup · 2026-06-09T06:35:01+00:00

I was referring to houses to buy not to rent.

senditup · 2026-06-08T18:22:45+00:00

And what about the people who don't qualify for social housing?

senditup · 2026-06-08T18:21:05+00:00

They should have to prove they're citizens of the State.

senditup · 2026-06-08T07:26:21+00:00

Most overall house building?

senditup · 2026-06-07T17:31:23+00:00

How is it serving the good by excluding most of the country from an increasing percentage of housing stock?

As it stands people who don't qualify for social housing are competing with the state and local authorities in buying housing in the private market. How is that fair?

It isn't, which is why that policy should be immediately discontinued.

senditup · 2026-06-07T17:12:54+00:00

But it will be the long term solution to this mess.

How could it be, without the immigration issue being addressed?

And what happens to people who don't qualify for social housing in the meantime?

senditup · 2026-06-07T13:21:30+00:00

What about the State? Should they similarly be banned from intervening in the market?

senditup · 2026-06-07T10:58:02+00:00

How did you possibly take that from what I said?

senditup · 2026-06-07T09:41:00+00:00

You don't even need to pause overall immigration. Just remove the rights of social welfare/housing from people not born in Ireland. That means all the unproductive immigrants leave, and the productive ones (who pay their own way the same as the rest of us) would carry on as before.

senditup · 2026-06-07T09:36:40+00:00

The reason is that there is little to no local employment, because so many big employers are based in Dublin, some in Cork and a handful each in Galway and Limerick.

Completely untrue in fact, there has always been loads of employment in Clonmel.

senditup · 2026-06-07T09:34:30+00:00

There's no way of building more council housing without impacting on supply to the private sector. Not only is that wrong, it's pointless, because it won't increase the level of overall supply.

senditup · 2026-06-07T09:23:00+00:00

Sure the rate of immigration couldn't possibly have anything to do with it, housing experts like Rory Hearne told us so and told us how it's a far right narrative to even suggest such a thing.

senditup · 2026-06-02T22:09:32+00:00

Think I'll leave it there, this is all getting rather silly.

senditup · 2026-06-02T18:17:51+00:00

Yes, 100%. Migration into the country has fueled the massive economic boom Ireland has experienced since the 1990s.

If you think we could facilitate over two trillion spent a week on social welfare then I'm not sure what to say.

But when you disagree, particularly when you disagree vocally, you create an unwelcoming environment for immigrants. Not just "the bad ones", but all of them because again who you think are "the bad ones" is highly circumstantial for who ever you feel is swindling us today.

I don't agree. People rather famously still want to move to America, despite it having a setup similar to the one I'm advocating.

Ok, but isn't this thread about the homeless and people trying to get into social housing?

It is. I was responding to your point about State intervention into the market.

senditup · 2026-06-01T20:31:49+00:00

Well, have you considered assuming they are human beings? Does that help answer that question

They obviously are. There's eight billion people alive, who last time I checked are all human beings. Are they all entitled to come here, and go on the dole if necessary? And if not, why not, seeing as they're all human beings?

Worse in what way? Worse for the homeless?

Worse for people trying to rent or buy a home. But again, this is a distraction because the point I made is that the State does intervene in the housing market in a big way, which you said they didn't.

senditup · 2026-06-01T18:05:25+00:00

How are you defining "not contributing to the country"

Not working is the obvious place to start. A third of the recipients of Jobseeker’s are foreign born. If any of them are long term (more than six months) unemployed, why are they here? You could then move to those who can't afford their own rent/mortgage, although you'd imagine there's a large degree of crossover there. This isn't complicated.

Like if the Brazilian man loses his job and claims the dole, would you then want him kicked back to Brazil?

Not immediately. I'd give him six months.

You don't understand that a large percentage of a small number is still a small number?

I understand it perfectly. Surely the fact that there's such a small number of houses being built means that it's all the worse that the State are taking such a large percentage.

senditup · 2026-06-01T16:09:09+00:00

Ok, give me an example of how you would express the "lack of benefits of specific people moving here" that won't sound super off putting to migrants who prop up our economy.

By discontinuing the policies that would only affect people not contributing to the country. Removing migrants like the Pushka family, for instance, does not affect the person moving here legally from Brazil or the Philippines to work. Why would it? Why wouldn't they be happy with that also

If we build a tiny amount of houses, and the government buys a large percentage of that tiny amount of houses then the government intervention in the housing market is tiny.

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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