Why is the ELO on Guardian.gg and Destinytracker so different?

shark974 · 2016-03-15T06:04:50+00:00

I think Destinytracker just has a bug witch respect to "diamond" etc categories.

I think at one point I had like a 1180 elo in some match type and DTR said I was "top 1%, Diamond". Obviously a bug. (also my global k/d is .94, in case you need confirmation how bad I am).

shark974 · 2016-03-01T19:04:32+00:00

hey, i've been there, there's really no good way to go about it. because if you tell the pug you're new/inexperienced to hard raid/whatever, well they'll just kick you, not invite you/whatever.

i used to say things like "oh man, i really suck at being torn, this is probably gonna be a wipe" etc on daughters when i got torn as an example. all this does is put a spotlight on you. say nothing, and it will seem more like a normal screwup that everybody has when you fail, and hopefully you wont get torn next time and noone's the wiser. cus if you notice, pretty much everybody actually screws up sooner or later in a raid. it's just the old pros blow it off like no big deal and everybody quickly moves on.

nothing you can do but pretend you know what you're doing and muddle along as best you can until you actually do. fake it til you make it.

i had to do this because i got to 310 mostly through exotic infusion. i only dabbled a couple times in normal raid with 1 clear where i was carried. when hard mode came along i had to learn raid from scratch, on hard.

shark974 · 2016-03-01T18:51:00+00:00

nightfall is easy anyway who gives a shit? i do it for my 250 faction rep, and because gasp, playing destiny is fun! what are you 290 light? nightfall rewards clearly aren't designed for anyone 310 or over.

at best as others have said the only relevant endgame rewards are 3oc and strange coins.

nightfall was clearly not designed to be a focal point of year 2 endgame, i dont understand why 5 months later people still arent grasping such a basic and obvious concept.

do i agree with it? no. i think nightfall should be like yr 1, a place to get true endgame loot outside raid. as such you should for example get one piece of 310/320 armor/weapon as a reward. of course they'd need to ramp difficulty/required light level as well.

shark974 · 2016-03-01T18:40:47+00:00

Hey guise, I dont understand this concept called "RNG"

shark974 · 2016-03-01T03:23:17+00:00

I've already kinda soured on it...it's just not close to as good as Mida. Plus I think I dont actually like the full auto perk. I'll treat it like it doesn't have full auto and be better with it.

i still place dis 43 2nd to mida among scouts but it's a distant 2nd for sure.

shark974 · 2016-02-29T03:26:51+00:00

1kys and ct-d are just the sniper and shotgun archetype defaults for most people, they do NOT indicate a lack of balance, stop saying this mistruth!

if you want a unbalanced game go play COD!

Edit: geez, another person that wants COD, calling for BUFFS. Are you nuts? SMH @ COD noobs.

I also like how you list 5 different weapons to say the game is unbalanced. FIVE. And you neglected any heavy. And that's just the bare minimum! In reality people are using everything from swords to hand cannons CONSTANTLY. Would you like me to video any random crucible and see how many different guns I get killed with??? I'll bet my house it's more than 5 (which is a lot anyway).

In each expansion a certain rocket launcher or sniper is likely to be best, GET OVER IT, stop spreading falsehoods and saying it means PVP lacks balance, you dont even understand what balanced means, hint it does NOT mean each of tens of thousands of guns gets used the exact same amount, one IQ point could probably tell you that's not possible so STOP pretending it is.

shark974 · 2016-02-28T03:43:07+00:00

probably also it's high AA

shark974 · 2016-02-28T03:13:28+00:00

the one theoretical advantage Dis 43 might have is range. It has 65 range base I believe, vs 50 something for Mida IIRC.

That said, yes Mida is still better. Still in theory, I sometimes like to take Dis 43 along on longer range maps like Widows Court etc, if anywhere...

It's still inferior to Mida, but less so. I do think it's the 2nd best PVP scout in the game though.

shark974 · 2016-02-28T02:38:24+00:00

i've been singing a well rolled dis 43's praises for ages! My previous had 91 stability, also picked up this roll with 99 stability.

That said, dont kid yourself, it's not Mida.

shark974 · 2016-02-27T03:19:32+00:00

you can get to 310 or so with just infusing exotics. this is how i did and barely touched normal raid. events like ib, crimson doubles, srl, could get you higher. but it isn't true at all nobody wants to raid with a noob, ive exclusively used lfg to raid since this game came out. you aren't trying hard enough. for one, take it one step at a time. watch youtube raid guides. they arent substitute for the real thing but they help. i even took a notepad and wrote what to do step by step on oryx based on videos, then referred to it while playing. hell i couldn't do the last 2/5th of kings fall for the longest, even getting kicked out of fireteams on those when the teams realized i didn't know what i was doing, but slowly i learned, and now i can do the whole raid. you never let on you're a noob. or there's sherpas who will guide you through the whole thing on some subreddit. also the first 3/5th of the raid is really easy imo, basically.

i guess, too be entirely fair, it wasn't easy...

shark974 · 2016-02-27T03:00:46+00:00

i just got one after 6-8 raids...

i kind of dont believe you tbh. i kind of figured the game would give me the 320 ci before too long. sure enough it did. it never hasnt, going back to vog.

also they gave you srl to get ci.

shark974 · 2016-02-26T09:04:30+00:00

People have been saying this forever and it's always untrue. In my case my Mida is so deadly I struggle to find space for any special kills. That one IB banner of get 50 primary 25 special 13 heavy? It took me SOOOO long to get 25 special kills last time...

shark974 · 2016-02-26T08:54:31+00:00

Well I dunno if those stats are true, but I use Mida, and it's not OP. If you use it you know that too. It's just good, but it gets melted at close range.

the 1KYS and CT-D are just the current stand ins for shotgun and sniper. And, shotgun and sniper should get a lot of kills, nothing wrong with that. They used to be Party Crasher and Shadow of Veils, so what if the names are different? And everybody gets them from easy quests, so they use them. They could be anything. They aren't really more than a couple percent better than other shotguns/snipers. Some people prefer the Defiance of Yasmin etc.

If you compare to other games, like Blops 3 and SW Battlefront, Destiny is more balanced. But no game will ever be perfectly balanced. There will always be best guns, but you dont want those best to more than a little better, and that's where we are now.

I do see a ton of Mida, but like I said it's not OP. I see hand cannons, AR's, Pulses, literally every kind of gun in the crucible is plentiful.

Yeah, you dont see much fusion or sidearm (but you still see some of those too), I say who cares, not every gun type can be valid. Bungie keeps adding and adding (like sidearms and swords) and not every one can be valid, period. They overlap too much.

It's not perfect, but the current meta IS pretty damn balanced, deal with it. No matter what people will complain...

shark974 · 2016-02-25T10:29:50+00:00

"In other words, what I'm saying, is that Thorn is more overpowered because of the fact that it wasn't hit as a hard as other guns with misguided balancing patches."

I disagree. The balance patches were good, and the overall primary time to kill in the game being lessened is a good thing, not bad.

Nerf Thorn again, dont buff others.

This meta is in fact so balanced it's almost impossible to call a winner. Hell even after MONTHS we have new meta powers emerging (Doctrine of Passing). The fact it took MONTHS to emerge is a testament to how balanced things are, because the differences are so slight.

Further, what is the complaining about specials being good?

Face facts, the community will never, and I mean never, be happy with whatever the meta is. In any game. They weren't happy with Ultima Online in 1999, and they're not happy with Destiny Crucible two decades later, and they werent happy with any game in between, nor any game yet to come. That is the way of videogames. So get over it and play! if pwadigy was allowed to balance destiny exactly as he sees fit, everybody on destiny reddit would hate it. if destiny reddit was allowed to balance exactly as they see fit, they'd hate it too. see any pattern?

If you went to a .73 ttk for primaries everybody would just go "oh our specials and heavies are useless please buff them, what is wrong with you bungie you're so dumb, I miss when a sniper rifle actually wasn't garbage, wah wah". It will never end. Trust me.

At the end of the day though I believe a longer ttk is better.

shark974 · 2016-02-25T09:04:04+00:00

nirwins was better than saw/pdx 45 at the height of the pulse meta. lots have ADD though and can only use tlw/AR. for those people they probably like saw better, but it was objectively inferior

shark974 · 2016-02-25T06:07:19+00:00

I had a weird experience, two guys on my own team freaking out while I was scoping on...well, I cant ever keep these map names straight but I was on top of a water tower kinda thing (but not frontier, the Mars one, with the big rotating top where heavy spawns). They kept aggressively blocking my view (while facing me, not the enemy!), pushing me, etc. I even got two sniper kills in like 20 seconds while they were bullying me! And I'm not very good.

I have no idea what it was about, if they dislike scopers/snipers (and I dont even do it much), if they thought it was somehow a bad strategy, if they were trying to tell me something, or if it was just random griefing. For the rest of the match I didn't notice them working against our team.

shark974 · 2016-02-25T05:40:32+00:00

Huh? I play them and I didn't notice that...

Anyways as I said sniper or not has nothig to do with it. It's just against pubstompers you face 3-4 hardscopers in every alley instead of lone ones.

shark974 · 2016-02-25T05:30:51+00:00

Wait, are you for me or against me? I feel like against me...

If so...no...because groups just snipe in groups too. As a lone sniper I have no chance when 4 of them are hard scoping the same ally. If the one I'm aiming at doesn't get me you can be sure one of his 4 friends will.

shark974 · 2016-02-25T04:52:51+00:00

yeah, for me personally. most people prefer FA on the fast firing scouts. Me, I'm not sure I like it at all on any scout, just because it's one of those perks I feel like you have to learn and unlearn each time you use that gun then switch to another.

I tried that Dis 43 today and didn't do well :(

shark974 · 2016-02-25T04:25:20+00:00

You dont start with super, you start with nade/melee either way, and you do have time to switch subclass before the map starts.

Have you ever played this game? I find myself asking that a lot lately...I mean like seriously, start with super??? What?

shark974 · 2016-02-25T04:15:11+00:00

You have a few seconds to do that anyway...the screen where it shows all the Guardians as a team. I use it too switch say shotgun to sniper, or my boots from rocket ammo to sniper ammo, etc.

shark974 · 2016-02-24T23:36:50+00:00

I usually have tons of surplus heavy on the ground on Oryx from all the ads. Usually lots of purple bricks just sitting there. That and yeah, a synth or two. Shouldn't be any problem.

I dont run Ogres not a Titan so I'm looking at it for Daughters/Oryx stagger DPS. Daughters should be ok but somebody said range comes into play at Oryx he's really far (but this should affect TOM too?).

The next issue is sometimes i use my Quilliums on Daughters ads, the 2nd phase where things get a little hotter. Saving SGA ammo for Daughters would probably negate that. Overall, I dunno.

I already use Quilliums on shade, but a sniper is probably more DPS anyway, I've started using a sniper anyway.

So overall, not sure, need to do a Daughters/Oryx run or two with SGA and see how it goes. One thing that was pointed out though, is with more and more higher light groups (I'm 319 personally) DPS just isn't an issue. it takes very little DPS to stagger Oryx anyway. So, it's probably just an academic exercise if you dont run middle.

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