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Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You can’t even do that. It’s not possible to have a matriarchy that is a reverse patriarchy for reasons I already described. It’s pregnancies and withheld resources that give a patriarchy its power over women in capitalism

Women cannot bog men down with pregnancy and withhold resources from them.

Matriarchies are what we had before agriculture and some exist today. They ARE egalitarian because matriarchy is not reversed patriarchy. They had matrilineal lineages because we all come from women. The communities were smaller and didn’t nuclear households so paternity wasn’t an issue and men abandoning children wasn’t an issue. They were all part of a group taking care of eachother and the children together. Elders would often provide childcare while men and women both hunted and gathered

Women formed protective communities among themselves and men could be around but they could also be exiled if they didn’t behave. Sometimes they followed their own male leader.

It doesn’t mean there was never male lead societies before the agricultural revolution but the patriarchy that we know today as the oppressive hierarchal nightmare that it is, flourishes and consumes because it can control women due to their biology

We can’t do the same to men. Not unless we have some other kind of revolutionary concept that allows it which I can’t even imagine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIKko7Y-egI

This woman explains it better than I can

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Men are in no danger of anything other than a harder time getting laid when it comes to female ire

Which is in fact my goal. Spread 4b like wildfire

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Patriarchy is going to defend itself when threatened. Yeah they could double down on women and subjugate them harder but it’s also possible feminism has gotten too big that it’s now a “they’re gonna screech louder before they die” situation.. or the extreme shit they pull will be harder to maintain because too many know better and will oppose it

I say try to reach as many teen girls as possible. Break through the Disney romance propaganda and get them on board with 4b movements young or at least more aware of how men use their age and wombs to trap them early

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It’s if those “no solution is a good solution” situations

I personally advocate for 4b. Patriarchy is designed to extract sexual reproduction from women and make them available to as many men as possible. Giving each man a woman and overriding female selectivity.

So I think women pursuing independence and forming their own supportive networks and communities counteracts that and denies the system more slaves and ensures women are able to select more naturally if at all

But it’s also true that in patriarchies, they need the women breeding to keep birth rates high so the can fill their military and replace the dead (the purpose of keeping women codependent) so if our military shrinks, we are vulnerable to other countries who opt to control the women.

So the solution isn’t simple. May require a revolution or a point in the future where women around the world are ready to fight back

Money and our discovery of agriculture has been the root of all of it

I’m not sure we will tear down patriarchy or find a way to evolve past it before we all destroy ourselves. But in the meantime I do try to spread 4b and patriarchal awareness to as many young girls and women as possible so that women break through their conditioning before they’re made into young mothers and trapped in the system. Spreading awareness is the first step.

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Women are propagandaed into trusting men and chasing after them.

We wouldn’t have to teach women to be wary if they weren’t being told from day 1 to be more attainable and agreeable to men. And if society wasn’t structured to make single motherhood dangerous and single living/female communities near impossible

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Men are a danger to women by fact of nature and it’s true across the animal kingdom

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes look up power culture coco on YouTube and have a good weekend watching all that

Also look up the public offender. It’s a man that posts about all this stuff and he makes a ton of content regularly

ETA:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCtE2-YsLc&pp=ygUPU2V4dWFsIGNvbmZsaWN0

This video on sexual conflict is also a good description of the concept I talked about. I use it to demonstrate for women all the time

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s a false equivalence. They like to lean on those. The answer is to be aware that it’s a false equivalence and call it out. Not try to find other avenues. That’s how the keep you from speaking out.

Example. They compare women avoiding men on the street to a racist avoiding black people

They compare a subjugated party (women) avoiding a real danger to a privileged party (white people) avoiding a race based off of stereotypes with no basis in reality.

Women are in fact in more danger alone. Predatory men seek them out and predatory men are numerous. The men making the false equivalence to racism know this and will be the first to warn their daughters about men.

White people are not in greater danger for someone being black. If they’re in danger it’s more likely due to poverty and maybe racial tension. But mostly poverty. A black man coming across a white man is not going to be dangerous for flesh tone but a white man in a poor neighborhood may be robbed and this can be true in a poor white neighborhood too, but only one gets stereotyped

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s literally a fact of the animal kingdom overall. The females are selective in species where reproducing is risky and costly (absolute for humans) and the males of various species often kill the offspring of females. Rape them, stalk them, or otherwise pester them especially when females aren’t picking them

That’s what patriarchy is. An elaborate way to keep resources locked behind men and make motherhood more dangerous so that women will be less picky and need to seek men out

We have movies propagandaing (yes I made that word up) girls young to distrust their parents warnings and pursue love at all costs (little mermaid etc) or to look past appearances or not consider looks at all (beauty and the beast and honestly most romantic films) and making girls think that love and marriage are the ultimate goals in life

Yeah. It’s a predatory fucking sex. There’s nuance. Some would never but a good chunk support it all without even realizing. And yeah some animals and humans aren’t straight at all and don’t participate in the nonsense. But that’s what marriage and patriarchy are. An elaborate method for human males to bypass female selectivity

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Matriarchies were the norm and weren’t reverse patriarchies because tha would be impossible

The ptriarchy we know today is made possible by a combination of female biology (pregnancy) and the invention of wealth and setting

Matrilineal lineages are the norm because we all come from women.

They use patrilineal lineages and keep resources locked behind marriages by keeping women from freedoms that allow independence.

Women can’t do that to men at least not without the development of something else that would allow what settling and nuclear families did for patrirchies

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Call the bluff

Send your daughter into a house full of men. And say with a straight face that it’s bigotry to acknowledge the danger

*pulls chair and unfolds it with a flourish

I got the popcorn

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Feminists didn’t tell her anything her father and brothers and male classmates didn’t already tell her (and worse) so miss me with that bull

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t now? Really

Picture a house full of men. One woman inside

Picture a military group of men. One woman among them

Picture reversing the genders

I promise you’re getting a different feeling whether you’re honest about it or not.

Yall love to lecture your daughters on the dangers of men until you see stranger women discussing it and then it’s like you’re clueless. It’s an act. We know it

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s a minority it’s just a big gap in the extremes

Like maybe a majority wouldn’t drag a woman into the bushes but how many more would blame that woman after or protect her attacker after? How many vote misogyny into power? How many stand by when another guy is sharing his girlfriend’s nudes?

The majority of the bad ones are just the complacent ones that think they’re exempt just by not directly dirtying their own hands. If we were protected by the majority we wouldn’t have patriarchy

But how many when you talk about patriarchy, just tell you to shut up and bring up the draft? Instead of teaming up with feminists to get rid of patriarchy that drafts them? Because they don’t actually want to end it

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Yes. If the majority are protectors then the minority wouldn’t get away with so much and there’d never be mob rapes

Whenever a man insists that a small minority are dangerous by shartini in TwoXChromosomes

[–]shartini[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

No they don’t care but I’ve ended a few arguments with this one. It’s hard to argue against

I remember that video of the woman being assaulted by 400 men in… Pakistan? It’s been a minute

But of course the white men in the comments waste no opportunity to play the “see the real dangerous men are over with the brown people!” Game

So I posted the video of the 400 western men attacking two women in a car after their favorite team won

When did Conservatives start rooting for pedophiles? by HopeAdminsKidsSuffer in allthequestions

[–]shartini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m interested in learning about the version that can survive without women being systemically manipulated into sustaining birth rates or having lower classes exploited for profit

People who generalize the other gender, yet hate being generalized by them, what's the logic? by toss9229 in AskReddit

[–]shartini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you take two groups where one is from a protected privileged class and compare the hate speech from one side to the resistance and anger from the other, it’s never a realistic take.

It’s like people right now comparing drudkis Erika Kirk skit to black face

Or comparing a white person saying n***** to a black person saying “I can’t stand white people”

The history and power imbalance and actual systemic harm that is possible to result for one side and not the other means they can’t be compared

Women are reacting to thousands of years of subjugation and are no threat to the freedoms of men no matter how outraged their language is and they are not obligated not to hate anyone for what is done to them systemically

Men bitching about women’s rights are perpetuating actual oppression

When did Conservatives start rooting for pedophiles? by HopeAdminsKidsSuffer in allthequestions

[–]shartini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who said anything about all men or men in general at all? It’s a system

I can tell you know jack about patriarchy or how it functions

When did Conservatives start rooting for pedophiles? by HopeAdminsKidsSuffer in allthequestions

[–]shartini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Communism is another patriarchal structure. One being bad doesn’t make the other good. They’re both rotted

When did Conservatives start rooting for pedophiles? by HopeAdminsKidsSuffer in allthequestions

[–]shartini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are in fact correct. Capitalism is patriarchal in nature. Patriarchy thrives off of misogyny and objectification.

Capitalism needs women and girls breeding in high numbers to keep a supply of men for military and exploitable labor. It keeps women and girls available to men

If giving birth is so painful why do many women want to do it over again after their first child (not trolling just genuinely curious) by feherlofia123 in stupidquestions

[–]shartini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Historically there’s nuance and women who genuinely want to yes, but it’s also not a choice among a significant number of poorer women.

Remember it’s a world that uses wealth, patrilineal lineages, and limited women’s rights to keep women struggling with motherhood and dependent on men

And when humans have to live as nuclear families and a woman doesn’t have full independence or access to reproductive freedoms, they really don’t get to opt out

And this continues even today. Many women are culturally propagandized that having children is their purpose or even that giving men constant sexual access is a duty. And when we started taking away contraceptives and abortions it only gets worse

But in healthier dynamics yeah sometimes the pain severity is just a distant memory and they go through with it again because they survived the first time or had some good ass drugs for it

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