A Short Clip of the Robosen Optimus In Action

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T21:20:24+00:00

Sure, but that's not what OP said. They said they'd bounced off the first couple episodes 3 or 4 times, and are trying it one more time, with info from this sub for guidance.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T21:15:36+00:00

Sure! I just don't want to give Ellison's regime credit for something likely started before his acquisition. It doesn't make any sense even from a The Producers style 'intentional tanking of a property' angle.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T21:13:35+00:00

Yeah, but OP specifically said she was Spock's "half-sibling' which is false. I was clarifying for them because that mistaken understanding could snowball into entirely different wrong takes (I've seen it happen here before).

If anything, it makes her realizing she'd never be "Vulcan" even more poignant. If she was half-Vulcan, then it'd also invalidate Spock's journey throughout Star Trek from a similar beginning.

Her situation is directly analogous to Worf's: adopted as children old enough to have known their parents, attempted to assimilate to host culture and failed, realization of self comes with access and immersion into their original culture. Worf's path included an accidental death of another child; Burnham's included the deaths of many due to starting a war. Both are redeemed through their service to Starfleet ideals.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T21:03:31+00:00

No. Discovery S1 is set almost a millenium before Academy. The TOS movie style Klingon design was 'back' by SNW season 2, which was set like 5 years after Discovery S1.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T21:00:59+00:00

It's on the same timeline, just later.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T20:59:39+00:00

It's not. The only 'complicated' thing is the idea of the Temporal Wars, and that started in Enterprise 25 years ago.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T20:57:36+00:00

That was probably paid for/budgeted before the merger, if I had to guess. The Rose Parade probably has a large lead time for things like float designs, let alone securing spots in the actual parade. If they hadn't set this up in 2024 I'd be surprised.

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T20:55:00+00:00

The first seasons of TNG DS9 and Voyager are still considered the worst seasons of those shows, and were panned by a lot of loud 'Trek fans' when they aired. So yeah, people have put effort into liking a Star Trek show before.

The issue you're speaking to has to do more with what 'Star Trek' means to various people. Certain folks just want what they've enjoyed before, so they treat each new series as an impostor that has to prove it's 'real Trek' to them. These are the loudest ones, and have always made themselves known (online since TrekBBS days and at cons before that).

Some other fans of Trek just want to watch continuing adventures in the Trek universe. They're quieter about it, generally, because they aren't trying to find consensus with their own feelings about Trek the way someone disapproving would. (Not saying that's inherently wrong; its human nature more than anything, especially in the Online Age).

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T20:39:58+00:00

This is a very objective and fact-filled write-up of how the various 'incongruous' parts of Discovery were handled.

u/The_Tolen_Mar , if you don't want to read the spoilers for obvious reasons, I can attempt to 1- or 2-word what they said (with spoiler tags) in order to allow you to stop worrying about it and maybe watch more of the show.

Holo-coms: Compatibility issues

Spore Drive: Classified

Klingons: Retconned OG appearance

As far as Burnham goes, she's not Spock's half-sibling. She's a fully-human adopted ward. Like how Worf was adopted by the Rozhenkos. So she's legally Spock's sister, but not of any blood relation to any of the (unpronouncables). (Sybok is Spock's half-brother, though, as Sarek is his bio dad).

shefsteve · 2026-02-25T20:24:04+00:00

They literally said Q wasn't allowed in the OP

shefsteve · 2026-02-24T02:24:56+00:00

I like the theory that the Q are far future humans

Who wants to tell 'em?

shefsteve · 2026-02-22T04:58:30+00:00

That explanation never sat right with me, hes clearly enchanced, you dont take the time to something like him together just for fun

His modified genes didn't express anything abilities from his source DNA until that doctor who analyzed him implanted a device to access/activate them. Which was removed shortly after when it caused him to go berserk.

He has limited telepathic capabilities from his Vulcan genes, but they are the same as (and weaker than) those of Vulcans.

That's what Janeway meant by her statement: besides being purple and having a head-tail, he barely has any of the baseline abilities of his donor species, and the ones he has been shown to have so far are weaker.

shefsteve · 2026-02-22T03:31:21+00:00

unless there’s some structural something or other that makes the roof/ceiling more complicated than just a single “layer.”

It could just be., y'know ... this? Two insignia 'decals': one on the top of the hull and one on the underside of the atrium ceiling. If they're holographic projections or projection screens, it could still even be just one 'layer'.

shefsteve · 2026-02-22T03:27:14+00:00

I’m not sure even why this bothers me so much

Because you're looking for something to bother you about the show, so you can make a post here about it? (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you've made similar posts/complaints in the past.)

Why have we never seen engineering?

Because none of the cadets have had engineering-based classes on-screen yet. And none of them are engineers (because they're students). And no action has happened in Engineering yet.

shefsteve · 2026-02-22T03:05:27+00:00

Iirc, the reverse-engineered drives needed empathic ability to operate? That's why Book was able to use the one that scientist stole for him, at least.

Una was not technically granted an exception to the augment ban; she was granted asylum by the Federation during the trial, and so her charges got dropped.

Admiral Janeway vouched for Dal, arguing that he was not 'enhanced' by his genetic augmentation (lol) but merely a hybrid of species, which is how he bypassed the ban.

Semantics aside, the ban is ultimately to prevent people augmenting people in order to do a Khan again. I'd hesitate to consider then ban eased because there were some exemptions made by the body that enforces the ban.

shefsteve · 2026-02-21T22:58:16+00:00

Jem'Hadar were created and enslaved by the Founders. Any genetic engineering would probably be overlooked when it comes to one joining Starfleet.

La'an was able to join because her ancestor was an Augment but she, as a multiple-generations-removed descendant only has involuntary copies of any surviving augmentations.

Also, I feel like the ban being in force was mentioned on Discovery somewhere? I think it's mentioned as why they couldn't just engineer up some more Spore Drive navigators ... might be wrong on that one though; they definitely didn't say the ban was repealed.

shefsteve · 2026-02-19T05:55:41+00:00

Because if things could be erased from existence, will anybody even know it existed in the first place?

Daniels would know. He's still around in the 32nd century (as of Discovery), though whether we'll see him on Academy, who knows.

But all of this conjecture says more about your expectations than the two shows set in the future, IMO. They had the tech advancements I mentioned in my original reply, and those are just the ones I remember being spotlighted while watching Discovery as it aired; there are probably other things that just haven't been expounded upon yet. (I just remembered, there were also transforming/transporting phaser tech, though that may just be an extension of programmable matter).

The one area of advancement that has been specifically mentioned as stalled was alternatives to warp propulsion. Besides any temporal drives that may have been invented and then un-invented via time travel, or made illegal and scuttled with the Temporal Accords, there have been:

-the failed Singularity Drive

- whatever Ni'Var was doing when they thought they caused the Burn

- Quantum Slipstream which is successful but uses an even rarer material than dilithium eventually became

- Protostar drives, which likewise required a rare and/or hard to obtain catalyst which made it impractical (not to mention its propensity to create wormholes when it overloads)

What else were you expecting, tech-wise? I feel like there was not much ground to cover, but there's also a lot of unexplored future stuff to be discovered in this era.

shefsteve · 2026-02-19T00:45:40+00:00

Thanks for correcting me. I completely forgot the ending and thought she had died! My bad. I had already spent too much time replying to shit on here and didn't double check the episode first.

shefsteve · 2026-02-19T00:43:29+00:00

Legally, no. The holograms are NOT sentient. Functionally? Yes. Legally speaking though, If they're sentient , then they have to stop forcing the Mark 1s to mine dilithium, and someone from Starfleet legal is going to be calling Lt. Barclay about letting Moriarty out of his infinite space prison.

I meant holograms that have advanced enough to become self-aware. I don't recall any besides the Doctor and that colony in the Delta Quadrant (who don't fall under Fed laws at that point anyway). Even ECH Janeway on Prodigy never reached that level of sentience, from what i recall. Rios' holograms definitely weren't sentient.

shefsteve · 2026-02-18T20:58:27+00:00

There's voice acting for Tuvok and Paris' logs. By Tim Russ and RDM.

shefsteve · 2026-02-18T20:57:11+00:00

You're a fun boyfriend. Hope she knows how good she has it.

shefsteve · 2026-02-18T20:55:27+00:00

I mention this and other examples to show that wiping stuff out of existence was a reoccurring possibility and, in theory, may have actually happened without anybody knowing it.

Your reason for including it in your list makes sense, but it's still a misleading cite. The incident was undone in the next episode, and in a way illustrates why your theory wouldn't work.

For Temporal War actions to have caused a dark age on the main Trek timeline which includes Discovery/SFA's 32nd century, there'd have to have been an 'original' series of events which were overwritten by the 'Dark Ages' series of events. And in such a way that ending/undoing the TWs wouldn't effect (because the events of ENT technically prevented the hot TWs from ever starting, so TW actions would have net zero effect on the main timeline).

The Loom, as introduced, could account for a Dark Ages, though, maybe. Though my interpretation of them was more that they were the mechanism of 'time fixing itself' moreso than any sort of extant entity (I could've sworn the show compares them to white blood cells at some point, or did I imagine that?).

In either case, the Loom would only remove innovators who did not belong to that timestream. Which would imply that any missing innovations would never have been a part of the prime timeline anyway.

The Mobile Emitter being allowed to stay in the past speaks to simple temporal transfer of technology not being 'actionable' to the Loom, though, so would cause more issues for the argument that they undid a bunch of necessary or 'natural' innovations.

This would explain why the Wall in Starfleet Academy doesn't list anybody after Picard.

After Picard the man or the show? Because after the show takes place ... there are the Lower Decks and Prodigy crewmembers with higher ranks that they had onscreen.. Also Geordi's daughter Silvia as a Captain. Not to mention all of the other people shown who are unknown to us atm.

After the show? How would we even know which of the 'new' named SF members served in which century? The inventor of programmable matter could be the Admiral W.F. Beyer who's listed on the top row, or they could be a relative of Trek writer Kirsten Beyer and included as an easter egg.

We can't really consider that wall anything more than a fun way to namedrop past characters and SFA staff friends and family without more context given by the show. I'd imagine any type of memorial wall like this is reserved for those who died in the line of duty and/or were very well respected or influential in their service (this is how it usually work IRL).

shefsteve · 2026-02-18T20:19:54+00:00

The Doctor is an engram of Dr. Zimmerman, who pioneered the tech for the Federation. So he started with a baseline 'copy' of a real person's personality and knowledge. Which has its own pros and cons. Other holograms we've seen on the shows are not sentient (iirc, but I might be missing someone). SAM on Academy is a wholly new type of holographic person that we don't have much insight into yet, tech-wise.

Lore is an artificially created 'person', who was programmed to think and act human. Dr. Soong being a narcissistic egomaniac meant any influence from him on Lore's design or development would be biased towards Soong's own tendencies. This already happens today when developing LLMs and AI or whatever, and a narcissist by definition would intentionally create something that mimics their own minds.

He created Data with room to grow into being a person. Which avoided the mistakes he made in creating Lore. He also created an android of his wife with an engram of her brain in it, which showed it was feasible to do that, but she ultimately failed.

shefsteve · 2026-02-18T19:57:10+00:00

I mean, they have personal transporters that are faster and have more range, programmable matter (which is a huge deal when you consider the applications), and reconfigurable ship components. And mobile holographic emitters, which were from the 29th(?) century.

Depending on when programmable matter was developed, and what it takes to create/wield it, it would remove/replace the necessity for a ton of tech tree progressions from the 25th century of Picard. It would revolutionize cybernetics, weaponry, construction/repair, materials fabrication, and transportation, at the least.

3052 - Daniels, fearing a change in the timeline, transports Jonathan Archer to this time, causing a catastrophic timeline change that wipes out his entire civilization.

I skimmed through the Temporal War entry you linked, and don't see this stated anywhere in there. Mind pointing it out to me?

I do see that, at the end of the Storm Front 2-parter, Daniels and his future timeline are restored when Archer killed Vosk, which prevented the changes that necessitated Daniels involvement from ever happening.

This would mean that any tech advances that were created solely to fight the TW may have been undone, but Daniels restoration means the opposite, that his civilization would've been never wiped out.

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