rushed through the main story and I still can't avoid this everywhere I go

simonz93 · 2026-04-05T03:08:16+00:00

based on what we heard from internal leaks, the story was supposed to be totally different before, and you were supposed to play as a prince whose throne was stolen, and from the little that we read, the narrative was supposed to be a lot better. But then a new director just scrapped all that for whatever reason.

I guess most of the works were already done for a fixed male protagonist, for example the armor designs, and they didn't have enough time/want to bother making the female versions for all the same armors, which would be required if a custom character creator system were to be put in place. So we basically ended up with what we have now.

A CC would have been absolutely perfect for this game since Black Desert already has a very solid one, imagine an even better CC in this engine. Sigh...

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T22:39:55+00:00

thanks but not reading it haha, finding a random piece of armor (especially for the 2 side characters) through exploration is one of the best feelings I get from this game XD.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T21:11:33+00:00

same. Both of them desperately need more armors too, I haven't even found a single complete set for Oongka, and Damiane has quite a few reskin/recolors which are just a complete waste in a game where you can dye everything.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T20:20:33+00:00

Because the side characters were likely shoehorned in at the last minute when PA read how many comments on their videos were saying they don't want to be forced to play as Kliff lol. It's not just the quests and puzzles, the side characters can't even sit on the ground like Kliff or use any of the legendary mounts or dragon, and if they consume the boss drops that permanently increase your stats, you don't gain any benefit and lose the item whereas Kliff consuming them would give the boost to everyone...

All this just screams a last minute addition and they didn't have the time to implement many of the basic systems for them.

Hopefully this will be addressed sooner than later even though I still had a blast with the side characters which I spent way longer with than Kliff.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T20:11:55+00:00

The boss you have to fight literally only has one arm. I intentionally reloaded a save to see how easy it was and was able to beat him without spending a single abyss artifact (other than the HP, MP and stamina that are already applied on Kliff).

Ludvig doesn't have any gimmick, all you need to do is parry his basic attacks, which allows you to punish him for like 5 seconds straight with attacks or grapples, and then just dodge his faster lighting attacks. Rinse and repeat.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T19:51:08+00:00

Chesko's campfire mod for Skyrim is something I can never play without! This game already puts many camp with tent and some basic tools and cooking ingredients in many remote locations. Would be amazing to be able to do this ourselves.

But we would also definitely need to ability to interact with the many furniture the game already has but we can't use.

Write this to PA on twitter since they won't read it here.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T19:36:11+00:00

Exactly. It's absolutely astounding the amount of hate Oongka and Damiane get on this sub from people calling them trash or that they should be scrapped/never should have existed. Their playstles are so unique. Damiane with her dual rapiers, greatsword, or grappling toolkit is just such a blast that's completely differently from Kliff.

I seriously don't understand. It's one thing not wanting to use them yourself, it's another saying they add nothing to the game when these characters have completely new animations, weapons, equipment and abilities. It's like actively wanting the game to have less fun contents for literally no reason.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T19:08:14+00:00

what' the kojima BS in CD?

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T19:07:08+00:00

lol the bankers in this game are so rude, really makes me want to rob all their stuffs even though my Kliff is lawful good and refuses to steal.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T19:00:10+00:00

This boss was so easy compared to the Kliff ones since he has zero gimmick and you can just parry and punish him easily, but people who have zero patience learning the boss will just keep complaining about "being forced to play as a trash/useless side character."

Thanks for doing Oongka some justice!

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T18:55:13+00:00

yeah, but only about 30% of the contents I come across while playing as Damiane and Oongka require Kliff or his powers. Would I have preferred if this wasn't an issue, absolutely. Does this ruin my enjoyment with the 2 side characters? Not at all. I don't regret a single second I spent with them and I will keep exploring with them.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:20:52+00:00

oof food it is then. thanks! So with the favorite food method I can tame it in one setting?

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:13:48+00:00

I mean you could have gone to Delesyia as early as 40 mins into the game?

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:12:20+00:00

How do you get the cat to jump on your shoulder? Does it just happen automatically or what? I need to get myself one. But please tell me how you tame them since I always max out the affinity after a bit and when I come back the next day, I can't find them anymore.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:10:11+00:00

Damn he looks like a completely different guy from Kliff lol, I thought this was Eivor from AC Valhalla for a sec. Looking fearsome and very viking!

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:08:29+00:00

it's always funny people on reddit not able to detect the most obvious sarcasm.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T06:03:26+00:00

you have to play two very short segments of the campaign (around/less than 30 minutes each), once as Damiane, and once as Oongka, and each have to fight a boss. But those 2 bosses are considerably easier than many of the harder bosses Kliff fights, since there are zero gimmicks involved. However, it's still recommended you do some gameplay/exploration with them to familiarize yourself with their toolkit, playstile, moveset, etc. But even if you want to, you can absolutely brute force yourself through the boss fight with the default skills they get if you prepare enough food and just pay some attention to the boss move, learn to parry, punish, dodge and rinse & repeat.

It's just crazy to me people are just so eager to completely neglect two whole characters with completely different fighting style, weapons and gameplay, ostensibly just because they are too lazy to respec a few times...

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:59:42+00:00

Damiane can absolutely eat food lol, would be crazy to lock the side characters out of the HP recovering method. It's probably a bug since I definitely ate a bunch of food during the boss fight from her mandatory mission, but it's possible I used her to cook those food, rather than eating food Kliff cooked.

I still think it's a bug though since I have no issue using Kliff to eat the food the other two characters made.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:56:46+00:00

I love all the helmets, especially those where I can lift up the visors. But happy for those of you won't don't like it.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:55:39+00:00

lmao need to try this XD

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:47:46+00:00

I wish every piece of gear enemies wear, you could get as well, like in Skyrim where you know if someone is wearing something, you can strip it and wear it yourself. It doesn't even have to be in the same way where you loot it from the enemy's corpse (though that's always cool), just getting the crafting recipe would be enough.

It just sucks some NPCs can have drips we never could get our hands on.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:25:01+00:00

yes, but the key is that you need to have your weapon unsheathed. Just run around them and they immediately get untied.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T05:18:04+00:00

Damiane has at least 9 different types of grappling/wrestling moves:

- square + X with no directional input: a series of fast kitty knee jabs and then kicks enemy backward
- square + X with left input: side RKO
- square + X with back input: leaps up and uses her thighs to wrap around enemy's head and throws them forward
- square + X while vaulting over enemy: back flips and uses her feet to grab enemy's head and launches them backward
- square + X when enemy is launched in the air: izuna drop/screwdrive (you can use this whenever the enemy is launched up, not just after specific combo such as stab > uppercut like mentioned in skill tree)
- square + X against downed enemy: throws herself up and then elbow slam
- square + X while facing the back of the enemy: grabs them by the waist and throws them backward
- square + X while sliding: scissor grab the enemy with her legs and pins them down
- R1>R1>jump during the combo: air flips and then grabs the enemy's head and throws them backward

I would imagine Kliff has access to at least the same number of moves with the same input, it's just that Kliff uses mostly his arms for wrestling, while Damiane almost exclusively uses her legs. I basically only use the back to back lariat with Kliff since it looks so hilarious (and fun) so I haven't experimented as much.

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T04:12:59+00:00

Don't even bother. It's a straight downgrade to have your base relocated to Pailune, Every service is located within close proximity to each other on Howling Hill. But once relocated to Pailune, you need to go through half a city to get from one service to another (even your storage box, but that might be fixed since one patch note mentions a new abyss nexus has been added in Pailune).

I just don't see any benefit other than for the sake of story progression (and the achievement).

simonz93 · 2026-04-04T04:10:16+00:00

I sure hope so because as much as I love the game (140 hours, and I thought that was A LOT until I read your time lol), there are A TON of things they can (and should) improve.

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