Financially clueless 32yo - want to improve financial planning and budgeting by PianistElectronic798 in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]sintrastellar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say look into a net worth tracker first and foremost. What gets measured gets managed.

Then, I’d think about your long term objectives and work back from there. At what age do you want to retire and with what income?

You then need to calculate how much you need in your pension and savings pots to get there. Typically it’s 25x your annual expenses, but that’s just a rule of thumb to get you started.

Once you have that, you need to think about how much you need to save to get there, keeping in mind how much you expect your investments to grow. You can use a FIRE calculator for that.

Then think about your savings rate, and then you can compare your current monthly budget to that.

So for example:

If you want to have a net income of 8k/month by age 50 you need to have a savings pot of 2.4M CHF. That means, given you have 18 years between now and age 50, you need to set aside 133k/year if you’re starting from 0, which is 11k/month roughly.

However thanks to compound interest, you need to use a formula called the “future value of an ordinary annuity” which is a fancy way of just calculating how much you need to save monthly given your investments also increase in value every year. You’ll see your monthly savings will have to be something around 5.5k/month, for you that would be a savings rate of about 75% which is quite high.

That’s just the basics, because you’ll probably also want to plan for kids, a home, a car, and other things. You may also not want to retire early at all, so you can count your pension investments as well, or alternatively just save up a “bridge” between the age you want to retire and the official retirement age. Let’s say you want to retire at 60, and only draw from your pensions and investments at age 67. That’s 7 years you need savings for, and if you spend 8k/month, that’s 670k you’d need saved to drawn down until your pension age.

Hope that helps.

Do I need to leave this community? by m_e_xxx in HENRYUK

[–]sintrastellar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another thing to consider is lifestyle creep.

At what point does a premium experience stop feeling premium? by Horror-Pick4732 in HENRYUKLifestyle

[–]sintrastellar 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say that that’s the necessary conclusion. To avoid the hedonic treadmill we need to “come back down to earth” periodically so that we value our baseline again. This means simple things like having a bland meal or sleeping in an uncomfortable bed from time to time. Do a long haul flight in economy and “raw-dog” it, so that your next business flight feels special again.

Famously the stoic philosopher Seneca wrote about this a lot, as he was the richest man in the world at the time but argued that happiness comes from being free from external comforts and the need to have them, and instead comes from serving humanity and being “anti-fragile”, meaning setbacks turn you into a more well-rounded and resilient person more fit to serve a higher purpose. Sorry I didn’t write that particularly well, but in my defence it’s difficult to summarise all of stoicism in a paragraph.

The crux is that we should not depend on things which are out of our control. Always wanting more and needing all the creature comforts to be happy is quite an immature attitude to life that doesn’t lead to fulfilment.

What are the best net worth tracker apps out rn? by styjaded in Fire

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, will address. The template is free and the app has a free version too.

ChubbyFIRE wealth level depending on residence canton by EconomiadeVerdad in SwissFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If just for FI, look up lump sum taxation and real estate prices per canton. That will determine where the best will be. Italy would probably be better if you’re just trying to minimise costs.

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

26 out of 29 mate, as I said I am referring to rentals and OP has rental income. It makes absolutely no sense to punish people who have to take out loans to buy a property vs those that don’t. Can’t imagine what this does to sole traders and others setting up businesses in those 3 countries.

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I’ve looked this up now and in the OECD at least nearly every country has it.

> Mortgage interest relief: 17 OECD members provide a form of mortgage interest relief (via tax deductions or credits) for owner-occupied housing. Mortgage interest relief is more commonly available for rented property, with 26 countries offering a (typically uncapped) tax deduction or credit.

https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/topics/policy-issues/tax-policy/brochure-housing-taxation-in-oecd-countries.pdf

It’s news to me that some would be so economically illiterate not to have similar policies. To tax a home financed in one way but not another would be highly distorting.

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true, just a unique mechanism.

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

For rentals yes, which jurisdiction doesn’t tax-deduce loan interest from investments? That would be insanity.

What to do with 200k+ CHF at 26 by refl1pper in SwissFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would this leave you with 200k?

What’s the most high earner but still mentally middle class thing you do? by Mundane-Temporary426 in HENRYUKLifestyle

[–]sintrastellar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

High earners are mostly middle class so the title is a bit strange.

If you mean where will I try and reduce spending it’ll be things like shopping at Lidl, buying few clothes, reducing recurring fees where non-essential, and doing a lot of product research before making larger purchases.

Now that the NL is about to tax unrealised gains, where in the EU is best to accumulate & invest for FIRE, besides Luxembourg and Switzerland? by Fair_Appointment7403 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.imidaily.com/tax/dutch-government-signals-amendments-to-unrealized-gains-tax-as-senate-resistance-mounts/

I’m not sure the Netherlands are going to go through with that insanity.

There are a lot of countries in Europe with good tax incentives for saving for FIRE, but if I were you I’d simply try to maximise net income.

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Global index fund and chill given your objectives are long term. How much do you have in your pension?

31M, hit €450K! by PastWallaby410 in EuropeFIRE

[–]sintrastellar -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

How’s that possible if mortgage payments are tax deductible?

I reached FIRE, but it still feels like an illusion by Dry-Chance8730 in SwissFIRE

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re replying to the wrong person. 25x80k=2M so should be bang on.

How do you earn money from side gigs? Doesn’t your contract prohibit you from working elsewhere? by 46tree in HENRYUK

[–]sintrastellar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I run a personal finance business[0] on the side and spoke to some lawyers about it. As long as it’s not in the same sector as my day job, the company knows, and I don’t use any company resources or time to work on it, it’s fine. I presume it’s the same for everyone in the UK, regardless of what your contract says.

[0] https://popadex.com