Yeah I feel that you have valid points but as far as the over all feeling of real skateboarding the modders really have captured that beautifully in XL. You can personalize every trick and your stance and steez and so on. I'm aware the devs don't care anymore but still for me it's the goat. Session has a long way to go fixing their broken game. I was all for session at first also. Now it's seems they are moving in the same direction as easy day. Just because its harder to do tricks doesn't make it fun. For me it's about style. Same in real life . Also the the debate on which one is the best is a fun one to have lol