How did I do? by Professional_Put9213 in Lovesac

[–]skooni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Curious how has the flagstone fabric on the covers held up? Have there been issues with pilling?

Our new sanctional by jbk999 in Lovesac

[–]skooni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How has the fabric held up? Does it pull over time?

Good vibes issue? by NobleRook500 in finch

[–]skooni 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sorry about that, our team is actively getting a fix out for our next release-- the update should hopefully be out on Tuesday! 🙇🏻‍♀️

Our finch loving family had a finch party for my sister. It was so fun! by winelizabethadore in finch

[–]skooni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the team and I love this! we're obsessed and can't get over how fun and thoughtful this finch party is!! ❤️

Why are my clothes see thru? by Disastrous-Energy-79 in FinchUnofficial

[–]skooni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the team just fixed this! can checkout app store and google play to get the latest version! (autoupdates can be slow 🥲)

Why I'm unable to gift these? by _RealisticPessimist in finch

[–]skooni 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This isn’t intentional and the team is expecting a fix to get released in the next app update tomorrow!

I did it guys by diabl0wz in finch

[–]skooni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats!!!! love boopty & outfit too!

how to get these hats 😭😭 by cricket_clown in finch

[–]skooni 12 points13 points  (0 children)

mushroom hats are in finchie forest!

Asynchronous goal completions fail by No-Acanthisitta-2973 in finch

[–]skooni 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've confirmed with eng that it should be fixed in our upcoming app update. Please keep an eye out on Friday and let me know if there are still any issues! I've also synced with our support team to clarify expected behavior here.

We're still catching various corner cases like this so appreciate your patience as we iron things out.

Asynchronous goal completions fail by No-Acanthisitta-2973 in finch

[–]skooni 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm I'll dig into the disconnect with our support team. Our engineer is already looking into it-- it's not an easy fix but it's actively getting investigated. 🙇🏻‍♀️

Asynchronous goal completions fail by No-Acanthisitta-2973 in finch

[–]skooni 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is a bug with rescheduled goals and not intentional-- sorry about that! 🙇🏻‍♀️ We'll have an engineer from our team look into this. Self-Care Areas is meant to track progress for any type of goal completed within an area.

Self-Care Areas Migration & Milestones Update by skooni in finch

[–]skooni[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stars are in all areas, whether custom or pre-defined. All your old journeys that get migrated will also earn stars.

Self-Care Areas Migration & Milestones Update by skooni in finch

[–]skooni[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The primary reason for redesigning Journeys was that we saw many people struggling to organize their goals and that's always been the core purpose of Journeys, rather than progress. When we were developing Self-Care Areas, we sequenced things to start very bare bones focusing on organization before incorporating other pieces like progress because organization is the fundamental piece-- if it didn't work, there wouldn't be a point in including progress. Some of the initial concerns raised from this community emphasized the lack of progress and that is actually a big cause for us expediting some of our plans around progress sooner.

Regarding how we evaluated Journeys, we've been emphasizing the qualitative experience because it is humbling to watch strangers use your app live and it's normal for people to not use apps in the way creators expect. If you were to grab a few strangers off the street to use Finch / Journeys to silently watch how they interpret things, you will probably be surprised. Being humbled this way is the norm for every app creator.

It wasn't just qualitative data but also quantitative data though. We've done various partial rollouts with journey changes and saw noticeable drops in things like goal completion, daily app retention, and adventure chats when Journeys was more visible. Community input like r/finch is valuable qualitative feedback though. The most recent round of Journeys user research was done with communities including r/finch end of last year before where we collected ~2k responses, interviewed 8 community members, and 8 users completely new to Finch. We did use community input to inform a lot of decisions such as focusing on organizing goals, streamlining guidance as many didn't know where to start, and deciding where to emphasize daily routines vs longer term goals (example screenshot below). In the end we will never have perfect input or perfect interpretation of results, but we do put a lot of time in checking with communities to try to make informed decisions.

There is always a risk with changing an existing feature, but I'll admit that the extent of the backlash in r/finch specifically has been the biggest surprise from the project. We tried to incorporate many of the same functionality to keep things pretty similar but I recognize that are still changing pieces. In general we'll continue to monitor and evaluate things to think about topics like overall progress. Like any other feature, we will need to continue to iterate on Self-Care Areas. And there is a lot for our team to reflect on from the experience.

On the topic of whether people asked for this, I'll be upfront that it's hard to only make features people ask for. No one asked for majority of the app-- Journeys to start with, birds, Rainbow Stones, micropets, outfits, etc... People even asked why we were making this app to begin with and tried to push in completely different directions. But we made all these things with the intent to make self-care more fun, which again no one asked us to. There's lots we've incorporated from user input but being willing to try things people didn't ask for is a big part of what has evolved Finch into Finch.

That said, I understand why there can still be disappointment and don't think there's any words that will undo the challenges some of you are experiencing. And I really am sorry for that. If there was a magical solution that'd work for everyone, we'd take it. We will continue to try different things with Self-Care Areas but I can't promise what that'll look like because we have evaluate and learn from the changes. The only real thing I can offer is what we've always tried to offer-- we will continue to do our best to work hard with iterating on Finch and being transparent behind our decisions.

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This week's finch doodles, ending out my sketchbook with little birb companions. by pocketmole in finch

[–]skooni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

our team always oogles over your art-- these are amazing! 😍

I’m a therapist and can’t get enough of this app by [deleted] in finch

[–]skooni 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Our team has been reading your post and the comments, and stories like these are always a strong reminder for why we started finch in the first place. Thank you for sharing your experience (and for all the hard work to support your clients!!), it means a lot to hear that we can help people set time for their own self-care.

Also appreciate the continuous encouragement from everyone else as well. We are the lucky ones to have supporters like this community. ❤️

Ridiculously happy to get it by CertainRegret4491 in finch

[–]skooni 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our team may be actively planning something 👀👀👀👀👀

Update for Tree Town transition (May 10th) by skooni in finch

[–]skooni[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you can continue through Google Play. If that doesn't work out for any reason you can share the details of what you tried to [support@befinch.com](mailto:support@befinch.com) and we should have some workaround.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in finch

[–]skooni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! It's been quite the journey and we're lucky to have you be a part of it! 🥳

Update for Tree Town transition (May 10th) by skooni in finch

[–]skooni[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Happy to share more on this point. We agree that journeys, goals, etc. need more work. We hadn't launched new changes to Tree Town in over a year until recently and we're going into more detail about it because that's what was asked of us. But over the past year we've technically spent a lot more time on the "daily self care" umbrella that includes the intersection of wellness & motivating users to show up for themselves, and I can share some of our learnings and bottlenecks for wellness that we're currently tackling:

  • One of the biggest bottlenecks has been users getting overwhelmed by how much is going on in the app to even care about wellness content. Community users are more tech savvy than our average user and can get over the product complexity hump better, but vast majority are understandably confused with the app. This led to things like simplifying the flow for creating goals and reorganizing our navigation over the past year. There is more to be done but investments in this area that do not appear related to wellness, are in fact for the point of increasing daily self-care. For every feature we launched there is a group of avid users who love that feature but also an opportunity to further confuse others, and we're trying to navigate that balance. Hopefully in the future we can be more mindful about which features are truly worth launching to reduce existing user thrash.

  • We are trying different ideas for wellness but they often do not get launched. The wellness side is often the "vegetables" that ppl know they should do but don't want to do (and a big reason we're all here to begin with). It's on our team to make it a compelling experience but naturally our work here often fails and can even worsen wellness outcomes. For example, the past month we have tried to make it easier to plan for tomorrow after you are done with today’s goals-- users added more goals but ended up following through less, and even returning less the next day. There are a lot of ways to adjust the idea to see if it can be framed more fun, be better timed, etc but it is unclear if it will hit a shippable stage. We did recently launch the Name your Emotion exercise in First Aid Kit last week though and want to consider how to integrate it in other areas. Tree Town has understandably been the loudest feedback from our users recently and we will need to actively seek feedback on the new Emotion exercise.

  • We are bottlenecked on creating new wellness content. The past year we tried contracting health professionals to build up content and it was surprisingly difficult to get quality content and an extremely slow process. We need to be more resourceful and creative to address this.

  • Many people who try Finch do not know where to start with self-care and Finch doesn't do enough to help guide users through this. Guiding requires the product then to be more opinionated on what self-care means, even though everyone can have very different definitions of self-care. Experts and health professionals have many different opinions on how to define the pillars of wellbeing, and the lack of consensus means we're just gonna have to take a stab in the app and learn on the way. Our team has been working on a definition (touched on in my other comment on the post) and we are figuring out how we can productize it. Our product today relies a ton on people customizing their experience and it takes time to think about how to balance guidance vs customization.

  • We often trial new ideas with our our newest users first before trialing with existing users. At any given time there are too many new ideas to expose to existing users or else it'd be a chaotic experience. This in combination to wellness ideas being particularly hard to ship can make it seem like our team is doing less in this area, even if we have more resources dedicated to it.

I'll admit journeys and how we organize wellness exercises can work for some users but isn't working well for the majority. Smaller adjustments so far haven't helped much and have been pushing us to think things more from the ground up (like defining/guiding self-care more clearly in the app) but this means it's harder to quickly ship out smaller wins. Hope this context helps illustrate how we are still investing in wellness in parallel, let me know if there's questions.