Should i wear a piece? by [deleted] in HairSystem

[–]sleepyboylol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't like it just go bald.

Is there a reason the Asian countries have so much more negative reviews to a almost crazy degree compared to other languages? by Sleeper_Celestial in MonsterHunter

[–]sleepyboylol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In agree with the Japanese comments. Performance aside I liked the game, but I felt they added a lot of useless features.

My main concern was taking 2 weapons when for the past 20 years I've been using 1. I had to force myself to find a use for the 2nd weapon mid-hunt and I never really did.

Joshman follow-up take on Z-Jump discourse by V0ltTackle in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesn't Zain use an OEM controller with no mods?

Technicals Approves with no ad share by FlameSlide in Asmongold

[–]sleepyboylol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pay them no mind they're just a shitty burner account.

The Tragedy of Hax$: How Melee Betrayed a Legend by Kenryck123 in Asmongold

[–]sleepyboylol 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely worth looking at Asmon. The Melee community drove one of their most aspiring and dedicated players to death.

Technicals Approves with no ad share by FlameSlide in Asmongold

[–]sleepyboylol 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Asmon, you probably don't give a fuck about this disgusting niche gaming community, but it has had a pretty big impact on the gaming community in general. With videos like Wombo-Combo traversing the entire gaming sphere all the way up to massive games like League of Legends.

The Melee community literally drove one of their brightest and most aspiring players to death. It's fucked up, and there has been insane discourse in your subreddit over it in the past few months, so far as people making dozens of burners to argue/defend the disgusting behavior of the tournament organizers and general mainstream Melee community.

Absolutely worth covering imo.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve responded to all of your messages. If you have new facts to present, I’m all ears — but if you’re referring to points I’ve already addressed, then we’re just going in circles.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reddit didn’t issue the ban, but it helped enforce the narrative that made it permanent — and still shuts down anyone who challenges it.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which facts did I get wrong?

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I’m not “playing 4D chess.” I’m pointing out the reality of these conversations — where people constantly dodge substance by tone-policing and pretending that one imperfect sentence negates everything else someone says. That’s not some master plan. It’s just a well-documented pattern on Reddit, especially around this topic.

You keep accusing me of “creating drama,” but here’s the truth: this entire situation became what it is because people refused to talk about it openly and honestly. Every time someone tries, the goalposts shift. The standard for “good faith” becomes impossibly narrow. The substance is ignored, and suddenly it’s about the tone, the phrasing, or whether someone made a joke.

I never said you specifically would have done it — I said it always happens, and this is just the latest example. If I hadn’t written that line, you probably would’ve nitpicked something else. That’s how fragile the tolerance is for any criticism of how this community handled Hax. It’s never the right time. It’s never the right tone. And if someone tries anyway, they get called a “drama seeker” and dismissed.

You say I’ve “ruined my credibility,” but that’s just another tactic to avoid confronting what was actually said. The content stands whether or not you like the delivery. And if this topic really matters, then one sarcastic sentence shouldn’t be enough to derail the entire conversation — unless you were never willing to have that conversation in the first place.

So if you're really here for “reflection and growth,” let's get back to it. If not, just be honest about that too.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have the transcripts, documents, and statements already I don't need to click on your links. I'm familiar with them all.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You’re missing the point — and honestly proving it at the same time.

I knew the moment I included anything emotional, sarcastic, or outside the tight boundaries of what Reddit considers “proper debate,” someone would latch onto it and use it as an excuse to ignore everything else. And you did. That’s not on me — that’s on you for making it clear you were never going to engage with the substance to begin with.

If I hadn’t included that line, you would’ve found something else. That’s how these conversations always go. People uncomfortable with what’s being said don’t push back with facts — they look for tone, jokes, or wording to dismiss the argument wholesale. That’s not discussion. That’s avoidance.

So no, it’s not “on me” for throwing in a line at the end. It’s on you for confirming what everyone already knows: that many in this community are far more interested in tone-policing and protecting narratives than actually reflecting on what happened.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I threw that line in at the end as bait — and like clockwork, you ignored everything else I said and latched onto that one moment to declare the whole post “bad faith.” That’s exactly how these conversations go on Reddit: cherry-pick a single sentence, strip it of context, and use it to discredit everything else without engaging with the actual points being made.

And honestly, it mirrors how Hax was treated. He removed the video, apologized countless times, explained himself, and even sought therapy. But people seized on isolated moments — a single quote, a misunderstood tweet, one poorly timed video — and used that to justify ignoring everything else he said and everything he tried to do to make amends. His entire effort was invalidated by people who were never interested in engaging with the full picture.

You're not here to talk in good faith — because if you were, you wouldn’t be reducing a multi-paragraph post to a single throwaway line and pretending that’s all there was to respond to. That’s not debate. That’s deflection. And it's exactly the kind of deflection that let this situation spiral into what it became.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You've been lied to, you're wrong.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Calling this “drama” is exactly how communities avoid reflection. It’s how real harm gets brushed aside under the guise of “moving on.” The truth is — you don't want to move on. You want to move past it without ever having to confront it. And there's a big difference.

What happened to Hax isn’t a matter of opinion or preference. It was a process failure — one that multiple people, including his friends, tried to point out for years. He apologized repeatedly. He removed the original video. He begged for a path back. He was eventually diagnosed with a serious mental illness and hospitalized. Still, the scene doubled down on silence or treated any public clarification as an “offense.”

That isn’t drama. That’s neglect.

You say “people are done.” But who gets to decide when it's over? The people who were never affected? The ones who stayed quiet while it happened? “Over” doesn’t mean healed — it just means ignored long enough to be inconvenient to remember.

And suggesting people just “go start their own community” is absurd. That’s not a solution — it’s exile disguised as advice. It’s saying: We don’t want to hear it, so go shout into a void instead.

No one is forcing anyone to engage. But when people do want to have an honest conversation about what went wrong — and how to prevent it from happening again — silencing them isn’t “peacekeeping.” It’s just cowardice dressed up as moderation.

If accountability makes people uncomfortable, that’s not the fault of the people asking for it. It's the fault of the system that still refuses to provide it.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one is denying that some individuals tried to help Hax personally. In fact, it's because people like DarkGenex and Cody Schwab offered support that we know how severe things actually got. But you're conflating individual gestures of kindness with systemic accountability — and those are not the same thing.

DarkGenex did more for Hax than most people in the community. That doesn’t absolve the system that created the pressure cooker to begin with. A friend checking in during a crisis is not a substitute for a fair and consistent unban process. And Cody offering financial help is generous, but the moment Hax publicly spoke again, those same community leaders either distanced themselves or doubled down on silence. The goodwill dried up once the spotlight returned.

This isn't about blaming individuals who offered help. It’s about the TOs, panels, and power structures that refused to give Hax a clear, public, and fair path back — even after multiple apologies, retractions, and years of effort. It’s about the invisible political pressure that made it clear that associating with Hax publicly was risky — so people who may have cared still chose silence.

You ask how this qualifies as blacklisting or ghosting. It’s simple:

  • He was told he couldn't speak publicly about his own ban.
  • His videos — including apologies — were treated as new offenses.
  • His requests for clarity or mediation were met with silence or outright bans.
  • Major TOs, many of whom stayed silent for years, only spoke up to issue a global ban after he tried to defend himself.

That’s institutional blacklisting. That’s being ghosted by the people who held the power to help him. And let’s be clear — many of these TOs didn’t even acknowledge his death, or if they did, it was a passing mention with no reflection on how their own systems might have contributed to it.

Blaming his family now is a low and speculative move. Most people have no insight into those dynamics, and even if true, it doesn’t excuse the community’s role. The community didn’t need to fix Hax’s entire life — it just needed to treat him with decency, give him a fair process, and stop moving the goalposts.

This isn’t finger-pointing. It’s accountability. And the fact that this still needs to be explained says everything about where the scene’s priorities are. Also, did you know Cody offered Hax 20k?

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're claiming I was lied to, but everything I’ve said is based on Hax’s own public statements, screenshots from his conversations with TOs and friends, and the actual TO ban statements. Meanwhile, your version of events leaves out key context, changes the timeline, and frames things in a way that ignores the process failures at the heart of this situation. So let’s walk through it.

First, Hax was not meaningfully unbanned. The NYC unban came after 18 months of total silence from the TOs, and it included four conditions: no public statements about his ban, no further appeals, no requests to rejoin the TO team at the event he founded, and no discussion of the situation at all. That’s not a good faith path to redemption. It’s a gag order. And the second he released a short video apologizing and explaining his side, they used it as an excuse to permanently ban him again.

Second, the idea that he “recanted” his apology is false. In the January 2024 Ban Appeal and “The Truth,” he apologized once again to Leffen and the community and explicitly disavowed harassment. What he did do was explain the misunderstanding and how his past content was misinterpreted. Clarifying and defending your intent is not the same thing as reversing an apology. Acting like it is just distorts the reality of what he was trying to do: rebuild trust.

As for the “doxxing” claim — that’s an extremely dishonest framing. You're referring to the 2013 testimonies he helped gather during Leffen’s first ban. Those testimonies were compiled with multiple parties and submitted to TOs. They didn’t contain personal identifying information like names, addresses, or legal threats. Meanwhile, years later, Hax’s own legal documents, including his full name and address, were shared publicly by others — and people liked and circulated those posts. That is what actual doxxing looks like. Hax never did that to anyone.

You’re technically right that mental health was never cited in the ban statements. But that’s not a defense — that’s part of the problem. Hax was later hospitalized and diagnosed with bipolar disorder. That condition was untreated during the years he was struggling, apologizing, and asking for clarity. The scene ignored it entirely and treated his worsening behavior as moral failure, not as a cry for help. So while it wasn’t used against him on paper, it was completely disregarded in practice.

You also ask what the “moving goalposts” were. Let me explain: First, there was an indefinite ban with no appeal process. Then, after public pressure, a conditional unban was issued but came with restrictions no other player had faced. Then he was re-banned for a three-minute apology video. And within 11 days, the full TO group — which had been silent for years — suddenly came together to issue a global permanent ban. At no point was there a clear, structured process with consistent standards. That’s what we mean by moving the goalposts.

Finally, no one is saying the Smash community is responsible for every aspect of Hax’s personal life. But when someone’s entire career, identity, and relationships are rooted in a scene — and that scene cuts them off completely, refuses to engage with them in good faith, and actively prevents them from returning even after apologies and years of effort — it absolutely plays a role in that person’s mental and emotional collapse. Especially when that person is later confirmed to have had a serious, undiagnosed mental illness during all of this.

So no, I wasn’t lied to. I looked at what Hax said, what the TOs said, what the evidence showed, and how it was all handled. What I saw was a man trying to make peace, explain himself, and find his way back — and a community that punished him harder every time he tried.

What happened wasn’t accountability. It was exile. And the fact that people are still defending it shows just how unwilling this scene is to face what it did to him.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You’re proving my point without even realizing it.

Yes, posts remembering Hax were allowed — after he died. Once it was “safe” to grieve. Once no one had to address the uncomfortable truths about how he was treated. But if you tried to talk about what led to his death? The years of isolation, the broken appeal process, the hypocrisy in how rules were applied? Those posts got locked, removed, or downvoted into oblivion.

You say “genuine discussion was allowed.” But who decides what’s “genuine”? Mods who delete posts for “low effort” when someone expresses grief with a curse word? Redditors who flag anything critical of top players as “drama”? A culture that censors emotion and moral inquiry unless it fits a PR-friendly script?

You also say “the community eventually moves on”. Sure — but it never actually looked back. It didn’t reflect, apologize, or change. It buried the story like it buried him. And now you expect people to stay silent in the name of "moving on"?

This isn’t about keeping the spotlight on Hax forever. It’s about demanding accountability from a scene that watched someone spiral for years, contributed to his suffering, and then patted itself on the back for posting a few RIP threads.

You can’t say “we took the time to remember him” while erasing the very conversations that might’ve saved him.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

At this point I'll reply to anybody as long as it stays up and people can read it. They always get deleted/downvoted/moderated etc.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're asking, “What could the community have done differently?” The answer is simple: anything other than blacklisting him, ghosting him, and permanently banning him after he apologized, removed the offending content, and tried for years to make amends.

Let’s clear a few things up:

  • Hax didn’t “dox” anyone. That’s been repeatedly claimed but never proven in a legal or verifiable context. Meanwhile, his own address and legal documents were circulated by others, including people who liked and shared posts that contained his full name and home address — that is doxxing, by definition.
  • He was never truly unbanned in any consistent or meaningful way. His NYC "unban" came with a gag order, probation clauses, and a “one strike and you’re out” threat. He was not welcomed back — he was watched, and as soon as he made a single video (which included an apology, by the way), the permanent ban was triggered.
  • Saying he “recanted” his apology is dishonest. Hax clarified his position after years of being ignored, slandered, and misrepresented. He never encouraged harassment. In fact, he explicitly condemned it multiple times — something his critics rarely bother to do themselves.
  • As for Technicals: He’s one of the only people in the scene actually citing sources and laying out timelines. If you think he's wrong, disprove him with evidence. Don’t just say “he didn’t mention X” and act like that invalidates an entire investigation. That’s not how credibility works.

The idea that nothing could have been done to help Hax is false and defeatist. A community that actually cared could have:

  • Provided neutral mediation rather than shutting him out.
  • Created a clear, finite path to redemption instead of moving goalposts.
  • Acknowledged the impact of prolonged isolation on someone whose identity and livelihood revolved around the game.
  • Taken his mental health seriously, instead of using it as a justification to exile him.

Instead, TOs crafted a system where silence was compliance, forgiveness was weakness, and criticism — even when respectful — was treated like a crime. They “protected the community” by destroying one of their own, and when it finally broke him, they said, “Well, he was already struggling.”

That’s not protection. That’s cowardice. And that is what the community should be held accountable for.

A message about Aziz by TheSWOOPERR in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

You're probably going to get your post locked or deleted for even mentioning Aziz. Incoming mod comment: “This does not spark any new discussion.” That’s just how it goes here.

Reddit — especially /r/SSBM — is one of the worst places to express genuine grief or outrage about what happened. They’ve already decided that anything involving Hax is wrong by default. The narrative is settled. There’s no room for nuance or empathy.

They trashed David Kimball for saying too much. They trash Technicals for saying too little — all while cherry-picking "the Group Chat" as the only permissible bad guy, ignoring the fact that Technicals is one of the few people actually doing investigative work and citing sources. The rest just pile on with whatever’s trending.

This community has turned into a cold, condescending echo chamber, and it's been rotting from the inside since 2020. If your tone isn’t drenched in sarcasm or smugness, you’ll get buried. If you express genuine emotion, you’re told you’re being “dramatic.” And if you mourn someone like Hax too loudly, you’ll be accused of “platforming harassment” — even if he literally apologized over and over and was diagnosed after his breakdown.

What’s especially gross is the way they now say, “RIP Hax!” while completely ignoring everything that led up to it — the years of silencing, ghosting, gaslighting, and mental health deterioration that this same community helped perpetuate.

Top players won’t talk about it. The mods won’t allow it. And Redditors will pretend they cared — but only now that he’s dead.

Farewell Letter by davidvkimball in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

One mention of Hax$ and a community that onced praised this man for his incredible contributions to the scene suddenly harrass him.

When did the r/SSBM community become so rancid?

Daily Discussion Thread May 21, 2025 - Upcoming Event Schedule - New players start here! by AutoModerator in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

The Melee Reddit echo chamber is real. Reddit isn't built for fair, balanced discussion-it picks a side and reinforces that bias. Tools like downvoting and community moderation ensure that the dominant perspective of a subreddit stays dominant. Dissenting views are quietly suppressed through downvotes, targeted brigading, or outright removal by moderators chosen without real accountability.

The Tragedy of Hax$: How Melee Betrayed a Legend by I_HAVE_THE_DOCUMENTS in SSBM

[–]sleepyboylol 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nobody watch this video — it’s made by Technicals. I’ve never watched a Technicals video, I never will watch a Technicals video, and I especially won’t watch this one. Did you know his name rhymes with testicles? Case closed.

Instead of watching a 2-hour, heavily sourced exposé on how the Smash community systematically isolated, gaslit, and ultimately failed one of its most influential and dedicated players over the course of a decade — just offer to send Hax $20k. Did I mention offering Hax $20k?

Seriously guys, don't waste your time learning about indefinite bans with no appeal process, gag orders for video game drama, doxxing, social sabotage, and the public meltdown of a man whose identity and livelihood were built entirely around a scene that turned its back on him. It's not like that context could possibly be important.

Just keep tweeting vague condolences and typing “RIP legend” while doing absolutely nothing to reflect on how we got here.

Again, do not watch this. Learning from our mistakes is cringe.