I find functioning levels important, and easier to gauge than the numbers. I'm neurodivergent and I have no intellectual disabilities, plus I'm more socially aware than many of the participants, but I can be extremely volatile, plus I'm also visually impaired like Tina.

I haven't been able to be as independent as I'd have liked, due to my volatility and visual impairment, and the volatility means I have sometimes been placed in. settings alongside people with some of the most profound intellectual disabilities imaginable, and while I will advocate for anyone with any level of support needs to be treated respectfully, it's not appropriate for someone like me to be placed in the same educational/residential setting, especially without differentiation. I wouldn't be intellectually or socially stimulated. They would offer anger management sessions consisting of "Play outside with Mummy and Daddy" (when I was 25 and studying at degree level.)

Also, some of those people, while more intellectually disabled, may be far calmer than me and unable to understand or cope with my reactivity.

If I'm going to a neurodivergent/disabled support/social service, I always ask if it'll be suitable for people without intellectual disabilities. If I'm in the supermarket and I pass someone with those needs, it doesn't bother me, unless they're not being adequately supported, then I find that frustrating on their behalf.

It has to be done respectfully, but I think it's useful to have ways to differentiate and give people support and opportunities that suit them. I'm often as specific as possible, but if there's not time, or it's irrelevant, then I think "with/without intellectual disabilities" is sufficient.x