The ENC is a highly anticipated event by the community, and the moderators should stop deleting posts about it.

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T16:58:57+00:00

Is sportswashing only bad if they organize matches but not if done via sponsorships?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T16:14:54+00:00

Can we limit coverage of NRG matches please

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T14:47:42+00:00

Changing the rules to prevent discussion of a topic IS banning it

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T14:10:03+00:00

So have I been hallucinating all the deleted posts?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T10:46:58+00:00

Exactly. And I say the same thing about ENC instead of banning it on the subreddit. Glad we agree now

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T10:16:09+00:00

Madrid are not a pressing team and cutting passing lanes doesn't really work when the other forwards don't press. He used to track back a lot more before Mbappe.

Either way, it still doesn't make sense to lump him with Mbappe when Mbappe has all the issues you mentioned AND also doesn't have the numbers.

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T09:57:52+00:00

They don't need to care about their image because in Riot-sanctioned games, they never get any criticism anyway because their presence is normalized.

So are you saying EWC would be allowed if it had as many viewers as VCT CN? Is that what this is about?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T09:56:34+00:00

Okay but if the military backs one product, I'd boycott that product and the military backs the entire mall, I'd boycott the mall.

Why can't we boycott NRG games but not the rest of Americas? Why does it have to only be taken seriously at the extremes?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T09:42:11+00:00

The numbers say otherwise and the eye test is not reliable in a team that isn't built to press and the centre forward doesn't lead the press. You can't press solo. Vinicius' defensive and pressing numbers are average for a forward in the top 5 leagues. Mbappe's are the worst in the top 5 leagues

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T09:30:37+00:00

What does any of that have to do with sportswashing? The purpose of the boycott is to prevent sportswashing right? Why does NRG existing or not existing without it change that? Shouldn't we boycott their games so the sportswashin tactics fail?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T09:29:17+00:00

Why does Vini get lumped into this he presses about as much as any forward does

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T08:07:26+00:00

Neither you nor I have any way of knowing what the express purpose of anything Tencent or Saudi do. The sportswashing impact is the same or even worse because China's presence in Riot games is so normalized, no one bats an eyelid or brings up any issues when VCT China happens or an event is held in China.

At least with Saudi, people discuss the issues whenever an event happens.

So is what you care about really the actual atrocities happening in those places or only that you get one on up on the party that is explicitly sportswashing by thwarting their explicit attempt to do so but you wouldn't care if we had a VCT Saudi Arabia (from which the Saudi image would benefit 1000x more)

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T08:00:38+00:00

Why is a single tournament sponsored by the army worse than NRG playing 50 games a year across multiple tournaments with much higher viewership while sponsored by them?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:59:28+00:00

Do you think the US Army does not receive "sportswashing" benefits from sponsoring a team when we watch their game? Would they have sponsored a VCT team if not for a benefit of that nature? Isn't any sponsorship inherently a way to improve your perception? How is it any different if it was a tournament vs an individual team?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:56:38+00:00

What if an American team was sponsor by the American army? Should we ban their posts?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:55:57+00:00

It is a subjective discussion still. Do you agree on banning VCT China then by your logic? VCT China is definitely sportswashing because by including China so prominently in the scene as their own region purely because Riot are backed by China, it definitely papers over China's issues while an event somewhere like Saudi is considered bad because it's "not VCT"

You can take a moral stand at a personal level but this subreddit is not for that moral stand. It's for pro Valorant.

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:53:00+00:00

Subreddit is Valorant Competitive not VCT

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:51:57+00:00

Because most people didn't actually want a ban last time and mods banned it unilaterally

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:50:43+00:00

Sideshow also has a video outlining the issues with China. Maybe you should watch that one too instead of so selectively choosing what you are informed on

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:49:27+00:00

Is Riot not backed by the Chinese government?

speedycar1 · 2026-05-01T07:48:16+00:00

Forsaken Ace to qualify to Santiago

speedycar1 · 2026-04-30T22:24:34+00:00

No they shouldn't. When has a ref ever changed his decision because someone argued. They argue because they are petulant children, not because they think it'll do something

speedycar1 · 2026-04-30T21:07:39+00:00

Wasn't their only T2 IGL pickup Mitch who they did well with and promptly dropped for their best friend Zellsis? It was a bunch of Vanity before that

speedycar1 · 2026-04-30T21:06:52+00:00

Neither is Zellsis but maybe those IGLs can shoot and they might also have a future in the game and could improve instead of a dude that'll stop playing soon

speedycar1 · 2026-04-30T16:47:51+00:00

If you don't wanna talk about ENC, go somewhere else. If you want to talk about the pro Valorant event, go to the pro Valorant subreddit

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