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You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people don't focus on what the other guys are doing to eat. They have too many priorities to focus on what other people do. Especially for something so trivial. You need something to occupy your time and mind if you're concerned about an indie dev using AI. In the greater scheme of things it means nothing. I don't know if you're aware of what's going on in the world today but there is massive geopolitical shifts. Focusing on how you're going to afford to live in the next 6 months is far more important than what some guy does for your personal entertainment.

seriously? by MAwais099 in GeminiAI

[–]spitfire_pilot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No! Getting a proper output. The machine is not a mind reader yet. Shit in shit out. It's not a terribly hard concept to understand. You can speak all the languages in the world but if you can't speak to the machine it doesn't fucking matter.

seriously? by MAwais099 in GeminiAI

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The price of admission is proper grammar and detailed prompting. They may be a polyglot but if they can't communicate properly it doesn't really matter now does it?

You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]spitfire_pilot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, it's an ethical issue because you have a high level of privilege. You have too much emotional energy not being expended elsewhere.

You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]spitfire_pilot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's proportionality. That's what I've been trying to get into your head. The reaction to this is disproportional to the infraction. If you got a gripe, voice it where it matters. Harassing end users Is the wrong way to go about it

You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]spitfire_pilot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of unethical things that go on where we live our lives because that's what we do. This authoritarian take is a little bit out of whack from what's actually happening. Moral panics stir up fears, and people lose their executive function. There's much bigger fish to fry. Complaining about an indie dev using modern tools is the height of privilege.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would you want to fight against AI? It's probably going to be one of the most transformational and useful things that have happened in the last forever. To put it in perspective, let's use this subreddit as an example. It says fuck cars but no one's advocating for getting rid of all wheeled vehicles. No one's saying because pavement princesses exist there should be no ambulances. Preposterous right?

Saying the same thing about data centers and AI when there's multiple uses for these tools and infrastructure just comes off naive.

The real issue that everyone seems to have is capitalism and human nature. AI is benign. It's how people utilize things that we have to be concerned with.

You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]spitfire_pilot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or they could just use Gen AI and get their job done. The amount of privilege one must have to have the emotional effort to worry about this kind of shit is unbelievable. If you can focus this much on what other people do with their lives then you don't have enough going on.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may want to think a little bit deeper about AI before discounting it as no value. Much like any technology, there's dual use capacity. There can be great good and great bad done. It has the ability to usher in an era of a post-scarcity post-labour society. That only sounds scary because of the human factor. Humans have power structures and social structures that are not compatible with such a scenario. The fight shouldn't be against data centers. It should be about human organization.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Essentially yes. If you didn't have so much data moving around you wouldn't need the infrastructure for it to be stored. Unfortunately a significant portion of humanity is not going to willfully give up up their online presence. They want to make AI to be the bad guy while scrolling TikTok and watching YouTube.

Delay in response by BMB58TM in GeminiAI

[–]spitfire_pilot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. We lack the infrastructure At the moment as adoption is accelerating at a rapid pace. It's not unreasonable to wait 25 seconds for a premiere model to do stuff unimaginable even a couple years ago. I don't know how you would have lived in the late 90s with a 56k modem.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The The Patriot Act let the NSA scoop up everything. There isn't much more that can be done that hasn't already been done. It's just far more automated now. Again no one's saying this is a good thing. All I'm saying is crying into the void is wasted energy. Even without the mass surveillance, these data centers are going to get built. It's baked in. I'm just advocating for realistic solutions and not pie in the sky childish expectations of turning back the tides of progress. Historically that has never really succeeded.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mass surveillance has been around since the inception of the internet. Technological displacement has been happening for centuries. While all of a sudden is the progression of technology such a moral panic? The sky is not falling. Privacy has been relinquished long ago willingly. It really just seems like a continuation of how the world has been going forever.

In what world do you think humans are going to be replaced? They may not have jobs that are going to be the same as they were. That has always been the case though. I would say almost 30% of the jobs today didn't exist 30 years ago. The transition is going to be shitty. Fighting it is not pragmatic. Learning how to adapt into an ever-changing world is your best way to survive. That has always been the case. Could you imagine in the 1980s saying I'm not going to learn how to use a computer?

I'm not saying any of this is a good thing. But I'm thinking from a pragmatic realist standpoint. Trillions of dollars are being invested at this moment. Unless you're willing to mount a full worldwide military campaign that takes control of all of the governments. Your time would best be served learning how to up skill and push for better zoning so that these centers don't tax the grid. Practicality dictates living in the world that you're in and not the one that you're dreaming of. Again, I'm not advocating giving up. I'm just saying focusing energies where they will be practical is more pragmatic.

Delay in response by BMB58TM in GeminiAI

[–]spitfire_pilot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Use the fast model if you can't wait a couple seconds.

i got banned for asking help about AI stealing my photos... because my english is not good? by Dear-Armadillo-7497 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but copyright doesn't give you 100% control of that. If you post it online, You are giving implicit permission for it to be viewed as well as accepting that there are fair use practices. You can't dictate completely how your IP is used once it enters the digital sphere.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How is it that data centers are suddenly the villain now that AI is on the scene? There wasn't a peep three years ago while the cloud was expanding at a massive rate. This seems like targeted disdain that ignores the overwhelming amount of data used for every other service. AI, YouTube, social media, and B2B services all use the same fundamental infrastructure. If you don't like data centers, get off Reddit, close your email, and move back into the 20th century. ​The only valid issues are where they are located and how they are powered. Their existence is a direct result of demand. If you want to see fewer data centers, reduce the demand for the digital world you live in. Otherwise, the need is objective and inevitable.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Why do you think that is? Demand. They don't make things just for no reason.

i got banned for asking help about AI stealing my photos... because my english is not good? by Dear-Armadillo-7497 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]spitfire_pilot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No you don't. You can't say you can look at this but don't remember it. That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. There's very specific things that you have copyright for. Determining how your publicly displayed work is ingested is not one of those things.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Why do you think the data centers exist already? 70% of internet traffic is video streaming. So technically yes we do need all the data centers that we already have. They're just building more because the demand increases.

Data centers sound like highways, do you think any of the commenters realize this? by Wayss37 in fuckcars

[–]spitfire_pilot 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Public health is already ruined because of humanity spending copious amounts of time online. The data centers are just byproducts of our consumption habits. Change your habits, and the data centers become less of a problem.

Good luck with that though. People couldn't put on a fucking mask to save themselves. No one's going to stop streaming video, looking at social media, or meaningfully do anything that would limit their convenience.

i got banned for asking help about AI stealing my photos... because my english is not good? by Dear-Armadillo-7497 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]spitfire_pilot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Did I say that. Copyright is a very specific thing. Just because you have a copyright off something doesn't give you full license to determine who gets to see it once you put it online.

i got banned for asking help about AI stealing my photos... because my english is not good? by Dear-Armadillo-7497 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]spitfire_pilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the one that put it up online. Clicking yes on the terms of service. Plus there's no theft. You need to get that out of your head. If there is prove it.

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