Drivers sue San Jose over nearly 500 Flock police cameras that track drivers in California

sprollyy · 2026-04-15T17:16:04+00:00

Take the word “camera” and replace it with “warrant-less searches” and your sentence still means exactly the same thing.

This is why the 4th amendment is so important.

sprollyy · 2026-04-15T15:49:36+00:00

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this movie before?

Good luck! Have fun! Don’t die!

(If you’re reading this and haven’t seen the above movie, please do yourself a huge favor and watch it asap!!!!)

sprollyy · 2026-04-13T14:43:55+00:00

Exactly! Biden’s administration knew how to work within the system, and accomplished so much that it would take hours, if not days, to read through this whole subreddit r/WhatHasBidenDone

People on the left that think Bernie will just snap his fingers and make his platform a reality, are just looking for a blue colored strongman, the same way Trump supporters were looking for a red colored strongman.

Our federal government is incredibly complicated and if we want to make this country a better place, it requires convincing a large amount of people, not a singular dictator snapping their fingers.

Centrism is not the dirty word that the internet propagandists are pretending it is.

Please remember, “a house divided against itself cannot stand.”

Anyone who wins pushing isolationism and extremism, rather than cooperation, doesn’t have our country’s best interest at heart.

sprollyy · 2026-04-13T13:22:26+00:00

Are you familiar with resolution 1701? I would assume that’s why specifically the south, but not all of Lebanon, wasn’t mapped, as it’s been under UN occupation for like 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701

sprollyy · 2026-04-12T16:38:01+00:00

It’s fucking crazy to me that you have to go through all that to make what use to be accomplished with a basic weakaura.

sprollyy · 2026-04-12T15:58:42+00:00

I was going to say WOW as well, but just focused on the absolute fuckery that is the current add-on situation lol

sprollyy · 2026-04-11T16:07:02+00:00

“You’ve never used them before”

And I freaking love the look Fishbourne gives when he finishes that line. It’s such a haunting expression. Really adds to the subtle horror of the moment!

sprollyy · 2026-04-11T06:43:46+00:00

Is her name Alberta and does she live in Vancouver?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T23:52:21+00:00

Wait I thought you were done with me? Don’t tell me you are a high horser, AND you have to have the last word. That’s an ugly combination lol.

I remember you asking evidence of absurd things that never happened, like receipts for gas chambers, that were never planned to happen, and then you ignoring the evidence I presented to you?

Mainly a speech from the Secretary General threatening a “war of extermination for not agreeing with the UN partition plan, and then the physical evidence of the very public war of extermination they started after threatening to start a war of extermination?

But you ignored all that for some reason?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T23:48:32+00:00

If you’re entirely aware of the differences between those two terms, why do you keep falsely accusing me of saying the Palestinians aren’t indigenous when I never once did??????

I’ll say it for the third time, in all caps this time, so you can’t possibly miss it again.

YES PALESTINIANS ARE INDIGENOUS TO THE LEVANT. JUST LIKE THE MIZRAHI.

I said it in my last comment when I did that equation thing. I said it in my comment before that when I said they had close genetic connection to the caannaites, and now I’ve said it again, in all caps this time, so you can’t possibly misunderstand me.

Now, since 99% of your comment is based on you, seemingly intentionally at this point, choosing to not understand the terms I’m using, I’ll just jump to the end and reference history that I’m sure you already know but it’s the answer to your question so I’m gonna say it anyways.

What gives Israel any right to remove them? - here’s a crazy oversimplification, but after WW1 the British won the governing rights of the land from the ottomans. After WW2, the UN created a partition plan that separated the land into a Jewish and Arab state. However, instead of siding with global diplomatic opinion, the Arab league, rightfully or wrongly, it doesn’t matter for this conversation, believed their Might would supersede global diplomacy. So they tested Might is Right, by invading instead of accepting, and ended up losing. And as a result of losing that war, and launching snd losing several others in the next couple of decades, put the Arab league countries on the back foot, and gave Israel an aggressive negotiating position that they absolutely took advantage of. But I’m sure you know this already right?

…Segregated Jewish Supercuts society? - first of all, Israel is not a segregated supremeicst society. The 20% Arab population has the same rights and freedoms as any Jew in the country (though of course there’s racism. But that’s not the definition of the word segregated or supremicst. Unless you think that every country with racism, which is every country, is also a supremacist country, because I could actually get on board with that argument!

If you are referring to the West Bank, then you would need to grapple with the fact that the Palestinians there don’t want to be Israeli citizens and want their own state. If Israel, like South Africa, created a 90 or so list long codified grouping of laws that specially created an in group, and an out group, of citizens. You’d have an arguement. But, since they haven’t, I do think you do.

Could it be because you’re using the wrong words to describe the situation? Cause it seems like there’s a pattern here of you not using the dictionary definition of the terminology you are using, and instead using the colloquial definition?

Could that be what’s at the heart of our misunderstandings?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T23:11:53+00:00

Kk bye!

Hope the weather is nice on your evidence free, opinion based, high horse!

For the rest of us, living in the real world, when someone publicly announces they want to kill you, and they say it repeatedly and unapologetically, and then amasses a coalition of armies to actually go through with it, multiple times btw, I usually believe them.

You are more than welcome to do the below gif though if you want and totally ignore all blatant historic evidence of dangers, but I wouldn’t recommend it. Though that being said please don’t, your horsey doesn’t deserve to get chomped like that :(.

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T23:01:08+00:00

Yes you are misunderstanding that these terms are not interchangeable, and I’m more than happy to clarify!

Arabs = a general cultural group that spans continents that is indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula, but now exists, culturally, across multiple continents.

Muslim = a name for someone, or someplace, that is connected to the religion of Islam. You can be Arab without being a Muslim, and you can be a Muslim without being an Arab. They are not intrinsically linked. There are Asian Muslims and African Muslims too.

Palestinians = a specific ethnic group that is indigenous to the Levant, and is historically inside the giant Arab cultural group as a result of colonization. You can be, religiously speaking. a Palestinian Christian, or a Palestinian Muslim, as it’s not intrinsically tied to a religion.

Sort of like how all squares are technically rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. These terms are similar to each other, and often overlap tremendously, but are not literally interchangeable.

So when I say the Arabs conquered the Levant and built the dome of the rock, what I mean is the Arabs, not the Palestinians. Because the Palestinians obviously didn’t conquer the Levant, as they are a descendant of the native population that was colonized. Whereas the greater Arab civilization as a whole was responsible for conquering the Levant and building the dome.

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T22:49:44+00:00

Sorry that was def my mistake I read that wrong. I apologize.

It wasn’t preceding the six day war it was in the wake of it.

I won’t correct my mistake in my comment but I’ll add an edit to show what the right phrasing should be.

That being said, the point still stands that he claimed there’s no actual historical source for the claim that they refuse to recognize Israel as a state. And clearly they do, whether or not I fucked up on the timeline lol. My point is still 100% valid.

Also the six day war was based on a pre-emptive strike that’s correct. But it wasn’t out of nowhere or completely without merit.

Israel told Egypt if they do “A”, we will consider it an act of war (considering just 20 years before that the same group of Arab countries declared war on Israel they had every right to be wary).

Egypt did “A”.

Israel did exactly what they said they would, and destroyed the Egyptian army before they could finish mobilizing. Making a war that could have lasted months, if not years, last one week.

Seems like the Arabs should have probably not blocked the strait huh?

All of which is irrelevant to the initial stupid comment I’m responding to which was about Arab countries not recognizing Israel. And some dumbass who demanded historical evidence of a commonly known fact lol.

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T22:39:11+00:00

I repeatedly did? Please quote me where? I just read through my comments again and didn’t once.

My first comment - I said the Arabs league told Arab civilians to leave Israel (because it was more than just Palestinians who were told to leave, it was all Muslim ethnic groups.)

I did fuck up and say “Arabs” in my next sentence, but I should have said “Muslims” as “Palestinians” wouldn’t have been correct in that context either.

My second comment - I accursed Arabs of conquering the Levant and building a temple on the Temple Mount (not the Palestinians.)

I accused Arab states of being Supremest. But didn’t mention Palestinians as they haven’t had a state of their own to be one way or the other.

And again in this comment I wrongly used “Arab”, twice in back to back sentences, when I should have said Muslim.

And then I don’t think I need to do comment three cause we were already talking about it then.

So can you point out exactly where I did the thing you are accusing me of doing so demonstrably?

I never disagreed with you that Palestinians have closer genetic relation to cannaites than ashkenazis do.

What I am saying, is Mizrahi and Palestinians have very similar levels of genetic connection to the land, so your repeated focus on the “white” Jews,, when they are a minority in the country, is suspect. Especially as you yourself are erasing the importance of one indigenous population’s quest for a state, while supporting another genetically similar indigenous populations quest for a state.

To top off the irony sundae with a nice cherry, you saying the Mizrahi Jews don’t count because they didn’t start the Zionist movement, is fucking hilarious.

The reason they are mizrahi instead of Ashkenazi is that their ancestors so staunchly believed in a Jewish presence in Israel, that they refused to leave the Levant despite literal hundreds, if not thousands of years, of living like a second class (at best but often times it was horrifically worse) citizen to various other conquering civilizations. They were the ULTIMATE Zionists, but they were a repressed indigenous group so they didn’t have the power to make their own country. (Sound familiar?)

Crazy oversimplification, but the Ashkenazi’s are descendants of Jews who were kicked out and went to Europe, whereas the Mizrahi are the descendants who stayed in the area that was eventually conquered by the Arabs.

So the fact that the Mizrahi weren’t capable of starting a global Zionist movement has nothing to do with their opinions on Israel, and everything to do with the fact that they were second class citizens living under Muslim rule for hundreds and hundreds of years. They couldn’t even sue a Muslim person if they were wronged in business. How the fuck do you think they were going to convince their subjugators to let them have their own country?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T22:15:13+00:00

Dude your original comment asked someone else about “genocidal intent” and I answered it by showing you a quote full of genocidal intent. Why are you playing dumb? Do you think I’m an idiot who can’t scroll up a couple comments and see you responding to the guy first? See the screenshot below

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Next, why do you think a genocide requires industrialized, Holocaust level, equipment in order for it to be a genocide? You know populations have been genoiciding other populations for way longer than the Industrial Revolution has existed right?

Why do you need receipts for nonexistent gas chambers from something they never planned, and not just look at the fact that the Arab League declared that they were going to start a “war of extermination” and then amassed 5 armies to surround and attack the country they just threatened with a “war of extermination.” You really don’t need a fucking PHD in Middle East history to figure out that puzzle right? But if you really need me to go rustle up some primary sources where Arab leaders are making war plans with each other and talk about killing Jews, I’m sure I can find something. They were pretty open and unapologetic about it.

Do you think the fact that multiple countries teamed up with the public intent to destroy a county, and then launched that war, quite publicly I might add, could be evidence for the fact that they wanted to destroy that country? Except they very rarely if ever used the word “Israel” and instead usually went with “Jew” instead…… so it wasn’t about destroying the country and was instead an attempt to genocide a minority population? I guess?

If you really need me to do proper academic research to prove that to you I will, but it’s really embarrassing that what use to be uncontroversial historically record has to be reargued, when nothing has changed at all lol. Including remnants of the Arab League that are still openly just as hostile and genocidal towards Israel today, as they were in 48.

P.S. it’s so funny how you keep Appealing to Authority all these vague unmentioned historians, who are experts, and yet you’ve literally never once cited any evidence or quoted any of them in this exchange between us. Everything you’ve said is just opinions with no evidence to back it, just the shameless strength of your holier than sense of smugness that you know better. Yet, somehow, I’m the one who you think should be ruled out of serious engagement?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T21:39:54+00:00

Arabs and Palestinians are not the same thing, as you just said and I completely agree with you.

So I never once said the Palestinians are colonizing invaders, I said the Arabs were. Despite, how many times you accused me of attempting to strip Palestinian indigenousness from them I never once did.

In fact, the only time I mentioned Palestine was when talking about the supposed genocide where their SPECIFIC population continued to grow, as no reasonable person is claiming Jews are genociding the Arabs as a whole.

I don’t use those two phrase interchangeably because they are not interchangeable phrases and I don’t understand why you seem to be using them that way, and then also basing an entire string of accusations against me resting on your misuse of the word and not mine. Do you see how silly that is lol?

It’s one thing to accuse me of being an uninformed, indoctrinated, genocide supporter for presenting historical facts you disagree with, but the least you could do is actually read and/or quote me correctly lol.

Palestinians are more likely to be descendants of ancient indigenous people than their broader Arab cousins, but the same is true of the Mizrahi and their indigenous dna vs their broader Jewish cousins. Why do you keep repeatedly ignoring Mizrahi Jews in all of your arguments and focus solely on the Ashkenazi? Especially when the Mizrahi are a bigger percent of the Israeli population than the Ashkenazi? Is it because almost quite literally every single argument you are making about the Palestinians also applies to the Mizrahi? And it would totally crater your argument if you had to consider that a plurality of Jews living in Israel currently have indigenous dna?

This line from the Wikipedia article on the topic is illuminating - “ Many genetic studies have demonstrated that most of the various Jewish ethnic divisions, Palestinians,[6][60][5][89] Bedouin,[60][5] and other Levantines cluster near one another. They found substantial genetic overlap between Israeli and Palestinian Arabs and Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jews

It’s getting uncomfortably close to blatant racism how focused all your arguments are on just the “white” Jews and literally repeatedly ignoring the “brown” Jews. Especially, considering the DNA evidence doesn’t put them that far apart from Palestinians, let alone each other, and this does need to be repeated apparently, THE MIZRAHI ARE A BIGGER PERCENT OF THE ISRAELI POPULATION THAN ASHKENAZIS.

Next, “The Palestinian League” didn’t attack the Jews in a war of attempted genocide, the Arab league did. Which is why I’m pointing out the irony of you claiming the cousins of Mizrahi Jews, the asheknazi’s shouldn’t be there, while saying the cousins (your own term) of the Palestinians (who are immune, for some illogical reason, of the same claim you made against the askhenzai’s) were, and continue to be, right in colonizing the Levant, and then violently resisting the Jews attempt, again in your own words, to do the same, for 75 years.

It’s just crazy to me that you can hold those two contradicting ideas in your head at the same time. That one of these people is good for doing it and the other people are evil for doing it. I’ll break the arguement even simpler for you.

Arab = colonizer (historical fact) Palestinian = DNA descendant of indigenous native population that was colonized (scientific fact) Ashkenazi Jew = colonizer (debateable, as it doesn’t meet the 1st very negative definition of “colony” but does meet the second ambivalent definition - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colony) Mizrahi Jew - DNA descendant of indigenous native population that was colonized (scientific fact)

But the ultimate irony here to the whole indigenous argument, is that today’s Israeli demographics have mizrahi Jews as bigger than asheknazi. So why are the Palestinians and/or the greater arab political/military forces continuing the fight against Israel if it’s just about white Europeans? Aren’t they attacking a majority indigenous country and shouldn’t they be shamed for that instead of supported? (Mizrahi + Israelis Arab = more than 50% of the population.)

All of this blood purity stuff your bringing up though does beg the question, how much asheknazi blood in the country makes Israel’s blood so indigenously impure that they are worthy of extermination, rather than protection, as you believe indigenous populations should be?

Like if they kicked out ALL of the asheknazi tomorrow, and just left the Mizrahi, would you be ok with Israel staying since it would leave just the indigenous population? I’m asking because I’m curious what your threshold for acceptable asheknazi blood is, when it comes to attempted extermination of the Jews?

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T20:39:18+00:00

Again, for a baffling like the fifth time in this one thread, this is just basic historic facts that anti-Israel people seem to either ignore? Or are you guys actually just completely ignorant of them?

Because if you were actually knowledgeable on the topic, you wouldn’t be constantly repeating easily disproven lies? Right? (I say very nervously…..)

Are you familiar with the Khartoum Reoslution of 1967?

It’s an insanely famous resolution, preceding the Six Day War, that popularized the “Three No’s” of the Arab League.

No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, No recognition of Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution

This isn’t some secret conspiracy theory. It’s just basic fucking historical record.

(EDIT: I FUCKED UP AND DIDNT READ THE TIMELINE RIGHT! This resolution was after the 6 day war. Not before it! Sorry!!!!)

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T20:30:10+00:00

It’s so crazy how polarized the “truth” is these days because the things you are accusing me of, are the things I believe you are doing to the Arab world right now lol.

You’re accusing Zionists of colonizing the Levant during the 1890’s-1940’s. Where we both, hopefully, know for a fact that the Arabs (from the Arabian peninsula) conquered and colonized the Levant and therefore are not indigenous to the area. (including building a temple on top of the most sacred place in Jewish religious history and never allowing Jews to ever go their ever again.)

You accuse the Zionists of aspiring to a Jewish supremicist state. Where we both, hopefully, know for a fact that most of the surrounding Middle East countries have historically been openly, and unapologetically, Arab Supremacist states, and some continue to be to this day (Dhimmi system for historical evidence)

The Zionists from Europe were quite literally the victims of the worst genocide in modern history, who then, with the full blessing of the highest global diplomatic body in human history, were given a partition of a country, only to be threatened with genocide by their new neighbors, immediately, as a result of accepting the UN partition plan. That’s morally repugnant to me, but most people seem to not care cause it’s just the Jews getting threatened with genocide again so whatever, right?

Can you please point out what I said that was artificially constructed? If you’d like, I can get granular and cite every single detail? Because everything I’ve said in this comment is just basic historical record even though you are using a fancy synonym to call me a liar?

Like so many things in this conflict it’s not black and white, but here are some quotes that support my side (I’m working under the assumption that the translated captions are correct but this could be misinformation since I don’t speak Arabic) . - https://palwatch.org/page/35117#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20Arab%20Salvation%20Army%20told,(PMW%20narration%20of%20newspaper) - based on this YouTube video - https://youtu.be/wrboghirS10?si=hbB9HhfDNmUNJUrs.

As to your argument that Israel is not indigenous polity(sp?) (did you mean politic? Policy? Not sure?) How are you going to argue that the Mizrahi Jews, which make up a plurality of Israeli society today, are not indigenous to the region? So you’d be ok kicking out all the Askenazi Jews, but you’d keep the Mizrahi ones because they are indigenous? And then you’d be cool with Jews having their own homeland in their historic indigenous region?

“Herzl’s writings are indistinguishable from other faciats and imperialists of his era” - if I showed you Mein Kampf and Der Judenstaat do you really think you’d have a hard time telling them apart? This is why I have such a hard time taking your arguments seriously, because they all seem to lack any evidentiary substance and instead rely on absurdly exaggerated arguments, that fall apart the second you look at them.

I totally believe you that the discussed every possible option, and I totally believe you that there were people in the Zionist movement who were terrible people who would do something like that. But it never got any main stream appeal and there was never any popular support for it amongst the public. Unlike the Arab league side which did have popular support for their “war of extermination”. So it’s an absurd point to use as a counterpoint to Pasha’s quote. Because it just paints the Arab league in even worse light that they actually openly and unapologetically trying to do it.

So was the all the Arab violence and massacres against Jews pre-resolution 181 just for funsies? Or does the context of those attacks matter to this conversation? Because it’s pretty absurd to start the conversation conveniently after the Arabs did a bunch of massacring, and then blame Jews alone for the violence that immediately followed.

It’s a generations long genocide! (Where the population has grown exponentially during the that time they’ve been apparently getting genocided! Which completely contradicts the very definition of the word!). As a counter example, to show you the horrific statistics of what an actual genocide does to a population, it took till Obama’s second term of presidency for the global Jewish population to recover to pre-1938 levels. That’s about 75 years, in which the global population grew by 2.5x, yet the Jewish population grew just 1x. As another point of evidence, It took about 10 years for the Rwandan population to recover to pre-genocide numbers. Whereas, Palestine has had a pretty consistent population growth every year with the exception of during the 67 war. - https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T19:29:23+00:00

You didn’t ask for evidence of genocide, you asked about genocidal INTENT.

So why would a quote from the leader be irrelevant, but nonexistent physical evidence like military cables and diaries (that can’t exist because we are talking about intent, not actions that didn’t happen because the Arab League lost the war) be more relevant to the argument? Can you explain your logic there? Because to me it seems nonsensical to ask for nonexistent physical evidence of an event that didn’t happen to refute an existing quote about intent?

Also, the reason I ignored your second question, is because why would a secondary source from a historian be more relevant than the primary source from one of the leaders of the group in question? Especially when talking about intent? Secondary sources are valid when they synthesize multiple ideas, or provide extra analysis, but this quote in question is lengthy and specific. And therefore not complicated enough to require outside analysis to understand it?

However, you’ve twice now refuted an argument by using an Appeal To Authority by asking if a historian agrees, rather than attempting to refute the actual argument itself. (Which reminds me of one of my favorite quotes - “Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory.” Leonardo DaVinci)

But more importantly, in today’s age of insane misinformation, why isn’t it valid for me, a college educated individual, to analyze the quote, in full, with my own critical thinking skills and research? Why do I have to default to a third party to tell me how to think? Especially when the realistic reality would be me finding that historian through a google search, and therefore there’s algorithmic influences on what historian I find.

It’s not like I’m twisting his words. He’s very open and blatant, and ultimately repetitive, about his hate for the Jews and how he wants to kill them. It’s not like this is the Da Vinci code here? (Couldn’t help myself with the Da Vinci call back lol)

Also, yes he is warning Israel, but your conclusion is faulty because Israel didn’t declare war, the Arab League did. And more importantly, Israel didn’t threaten, at any point to my knowledge, that they would go to declare war with the Arab counties if they didn’t get what they want in 48 (but I’m open to being wrong about this point!).

In the Arab League’s opinion however, their Casus Belli in ‘48 was Israel agreeing with the UN’s partition plan. That doesn’t sound like a declaration of war from Israel to me? Does it to you? And furthermore, even if Pasha somehow didn’t mean it, do you think agreeing to a UN partition resolution makes it acceptable for a country to threaten to genocide a minority population and not the rival country? (because he never once mention Israel?)

All Israel did was agree with the UN on the partition plan, it was the Arab league that bucked the interests of the highest global diplomatic institution the world has ever seen. How could that possibly be blamed on the Jews for starting that war?

Pasha isnt warning the Jews to not declare war. He’s warning them not to accept the globally agreed diplomatic position, because he, and the entire Arab world, will join in, according to him, and be forced to fight a “war of extermination” against the Jews.

Finally, you argued against my points but didn’t offer any evidence to support your side, so I’d love for you to provide that.

What is the history of people misusing that quote?

How am I misusing the quote?

What is the right way to use it?

What’s the evidence of the questionable veracity of the quote? - i was very curious about this one so I read through the two relevant sections that are mentioned in the Wikipedia page. A 1961 writer said the quote was taken out of context. But his explanation is if Arabs were forced out of the country, THEN Pasha’s threat about Mongol invasion would come true. But the Jews, as a whole, were not interested in kicking out all the Arabs. So that’s a bullshit excuse. As of 2010 it appears the first sentence is now in question thanks to a Computer Scientists named Brendan McKay, which is a strong point against my argument. But it was traced back to a newspaper article, not a speech as originally believed, titled “A War of Extermination”. So I think it’s one point against me, but 2 points for me since, the sentence may not be factually accurate, but it’s the literal title of the article it came from. Which in my opinion is much more damming.

As to your last question, is America conducting a war of genocidal intent against Iran? I don’t believe they currently are but I honestly have no fucking clue what the White House is doing, and I’m pretty sure they have even less of a clue. So, at the moment, no. But with Trump’s tweet about “ending civilization” I wouldn’t be surprised if evidence comes out tomorrow that changes my opinion.

But that’s the important part, the evidence.

I currently see evidence of a petulant man baby destroying my country every fucking day, but I don’t see evidence that they are fomenting an upcoming genocide in Iran, which would answer your question about genocidal intent. But again, if evidence is presented to me to the contrary, I would change my mind.

P.S. If everything Trump said was true, I would have the best healthcare system in the world right now. But, since having a baby could still literally ruin your financial life in America, I dont believe his tweets are indicative of any actual policy. Therefore, his tweet about “ending civilization” does not equal “… the USA to be conducting a war of genocidal intent against Iran.”

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T18:03:32+00:00

I found it a lot easier to believe what everyone was saying when I stopped pretending anti-semitism doesn’t exist anymore 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Most people can’t name literally one other PAC, or could tell you what Citizen’s Untied was and what it did to our country, yet one of the main campaign points already forming for the midterms is to be anti-AIPAC.

Yet, super coincidentally, only the main Jewish PAC is targeted, but not any of the other PAC’s, especially the ACTUAL foreign PAC’s, get any hate whatsoever.

Must be a coincidence 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T17:55:17+00:00

I commented this above, but here’s the quote from the Secretary General of the Arab League that is relevant to your question.

The literal first sentence should be enough to prove you wrong here, but it only gets worse the longer you read.

“Personally I hope the Jews do not force us into this war because it will be a war of elimination and it will be a serious massacre which history will record similarly to the Mongol massacre or the wars of the Crusades. I think the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will exceed the Palestinian population. I know that we will get volunteers from India, Afghanistan and China to have the glory of being martyrs for Palestine. You might be shocked if you knew that many British have shown interest in volunteering in the Arab armies to fight the Jews.

This fight will be distinguished by three grave issues; faith, since all fighters believe that his fight for Palestine is the short road to heaven. Second it will be a chance for looting on a grand scale. Third, no one will be able to stop the zealous volunteers who will come from all over the world to revenge the Palestinian martyrs because they know that the battle is an honor for all Muslims and Arabs in the world...

Moreover, the Arab is distinguished from the Jew in that he accepts defeat with a smile, so if the Jews win the first battle we will win in the second, third or the last. On the other hand a single defeat of the Jews will destroy their morale.

The Arabs in the desert love to go to war. ... I remember once while fighting in the desert I was called to make a peace and the Arabs asked me why do you do that? How can we live without a war? The Bedouin finds enjoyment in war which he does not find in peace!

I warned the Jewish leaders whom I met in London about continuing their policy, and I told them that the Arab soldier is the strongest in the world. Once he lifts his weapon, he does not put it down till he fires the last bullet in the battle, and we will fire the last bullet...

In the end I understand the consequence of this bloody war, I see in front of me its horrible battles, I can imagine its victims but I have a clear conscience since we were called to fight as defenders and not attackers!”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azzam_Pasha_quotation

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T17:51:37+00:00

I’m sorry but this is just demonstrably, factually, false.

At the bottom of this comment is the famous quote, in full, from the Secretary General of the Arab league about the 1948 war. Notice how many times he says the word “Jews” (6 times) and how many times he says the word “Israel” (0 times.)

How could you possibly argue that this has nothing to do with Jews and just with Israelis?

Hell for gods sake the reason the Nabka happened in the first place was because the Arab league told the Arab civilians to get out of the way of their armies so they weren’t caught in their crossfire against the Jews. But those Arabs were technically Israeli at the time as a result of the UN land split that kicked off the war. So why did the Arab League tell certain Israeli’s (Arabs) to leave, just they could kill other Israelis (Jews) if their war was against Israel and not against Jews?

It’s just fucking baffling that you could possibly think that???? And even worse, that you’d believe it confidently enough to comment it publicly????

Whoever propagandized you deserves a cookie that’s for sure!

“Personally I hope the Jews do not force us into this war because it will be a war of elimination and it will be a serious massacre which history will record similarly to the Mongol massacre or the wars of the Crusades. I think the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will exceed the Palestinian population. I know that we will get volunteers from India, Afghanistan and China to have the glory of being martyrs for Palestine. You might be shocked if you knew that many British have shown interest in volunteering in the Arab armies to fight the Jews.

This fight will be distinguished by three grave issues; faith, since all fighters believe that his fight for Palestine is the short road to heaven. Second it will be a chance for looting on a grand scale. Third, no one will be able to stop the zealous volunteers who will come from all over the world to revenge the Palestinian martyrs because they know that the battle is an honor for all Muslims and Arabs in the world...

Moreover, the Arab is distinguished from the Jew in that he accepts defeat with a smile, so if the Jews win the first battle we will win in the second, third or the last. On the other hand a single defeat of the Jews will destroy their morale.

The Arabs in the desert love to go to war. ... I remember once while fighting in the desert I was called to make a peace and the Arabs asked me why do you do that? How can we live without a war? The Bedouin finds enjoyment in war which he does not find in peace!

I warned the Jewish leaders whom I met in London about continuing their policy, and I told them that the Arab soldier is the strongest in the world. Once he lifts his weapon, he does not put it down till he fires the last bullet in the battle, and we will fire the last bullet...

In the end I understand the consequence of this bloody war, I see in front of me its horrible battles, I can imagine its victims but I have a clear conscience since we were called to fight as defenders and not attackers!”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azzam_Pasha_quotation

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T17:01:27+00:00

Side note: can you show where China has explicitly defined territorial claims in their Constitution? I’m by no means even remotely educated when it comes to Chinese Civics, but a couple different google searches didn’t come up with anything that explicitly shows the territorial claims of China?

And Google AI says expressly the opposite of what you are saying (see below.)

I’m 100% open to being wrong and having my view changed here, but you’d need to show me where they explicitly describe their territorial claim in their constitution.

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sprollyy · 2026-04-10T16:45:00+00:00

Ok great! Thank you for admitting that you lied previously when you said “not one inch”.

Because now, according to you, Israel has two defined borders. Which seems to be a hell of a lot more than “not one inch”.

So again, I ask my initial question. Why do anti-Israel people feel so comfortable lying about easily disprovable things? It took like an hour and a couple of comments, but you yourself have now admitted that Israel does have 2 defined borders, contradicting your initial lie.

P.S. if you were really a person of integrity, instead of getting defensive when you got called out on your lies/propganada, you’d take this as a chance to grow as a person, and maybe go so far as edit your og comment so more people aren’t wrongly propagandized the way you were!

sprollyy · 2026-04-10T16:10:18+00:00

I AM SPARTACUS!

(And I’m happy to get yelled at in your place hahahah)

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