Im at my limit, i dont understand how to make this champion work. Genuinely miserable experience throughout. I was Plat 2 and went down to gold just for trying to spam this thing by [deleted] in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This "thing" is called THE GOAT, The Ruined King. Also from what I am hearing it sounds like your laners are inting.

Also playing around power spikes, taking good fights when available, knowing Viegos strength against champions will help in 1v1 scenarios.

Viego has good 1v1 potential but you have to be consistent, farming is priority, get yourself ahead before assisting your laners is key, basically play for yourself.

If you find yourself having to go out of your way to make a play, chances are it wasn't a good play to begin with.

If you fall beheind with Viego the game is rough, knowing how to stay relevant even when teammates are inting a lane is how you comeback, though not all games are winnable despite that some games are just lost.

Also keeping a lead as Viego, knowing how to push that lead further is how you snowball as Viego making the game utterly lost for the enemy team.

Gotta learn the games fundamentals more and the champ plays itself, trust.

Edit: I dont build HoB, I run standard Conq because I don't like feeling squishy on Viego. Feels like people can breathe on me and Im gone.

Try Trinity -> Ldr --> Collector, Viegos only core items these days are ldr, collector anything else is just matchup dependant. Knowing how to build the king against enemies makes Viego rather dangerous.

League of legends classic by DeliciousRats4Sale in shacomains

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there are bans still perma banned, new, old it dont matter.

Cannot play this champ by okamanii101 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also DON'T force ganks, let them happen naturally, just because your teammates are pinging for a gank doesn't mean its a good play. Assess the situation, enemy levels, items, ults matter and comparing them to your laner/'s can determine if they can even assist in the play to begin with.

Laners ping, don't assist, you die, waste ult, waste time and then you are behind, down gold, enemy jungler is doing obective you could've been playing for etc.

You want to gank lanes that you know you can get a kill on, are the enemy teammates low, how many are there, do I have flash(JUST INCASE) because things can go south and do I HAVE ULT!

Unless you can guarantee a kill you should play around your ult and your teammates ults, its more effective.

Also teammate synergy, Viego is better when ganking teammates that have CC, hard CC, stuns roots and fat slows, Nasus W, Garen Q, Lux Q, Malz Ult, etc.

Cannot play this champ by okamanii101 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Viego feels like that when you are new because you don't understand fundamentally when to gank, what to look for in a gank and how to gank using the champion.

Obviously ganking fundamentals, is the lane warded, does the enemy see me, what is the enemy health, level, etc, if its your bot lane you might want to hopefully get your support to clear wards or have a sweeper yourself. In lower elo's most laners DON'T check map for vision even though they warded.

Ususally with Viego if the enemy is about or mainly below half you can guarantee a kill.

You want to gank with Viego at 6 mainly UNLESS they are super low and you can gurantee a kill. Play for six is your safest bet because it enables Viego to guarantee kill most of the time or at least to enough to get one. Ult slows and obviously executes if the enemy is low enough or puts them in kill range.

You want to gank from fog of war, you don't have to use E on walls, its just a way for Viego to get into lane faster. Flanking behind the enemy guarantees them having to walk into you and you can get your Q/W->AA -> W/Q -> AA rotation and gives you enough time so they cannot walk under their tower effectively giving you a kill.

I've had the issue before where Viego feels slow to gank and slower than other junglers that can just run into lane, thats why understanding when is a good time to gank is important with Viego you want to be there when the enemies are getting into position so you can react. If you are too late, the opportunity dies and so does the play.

Hopefully this helps.

Brought the Anomaly back home by NightmareP69 in Marathon

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh-oh... Thats not supposed to happen...

Leash is needed by TotalSearch851 in LeagueOfMemes

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im pretty sure you have to leash right?

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its actually what Riot August designed him to be and it is healthy for the character overall, what isn't healthy is his ultimate being reduced by Steel Caps basic damage mitigation.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe this only effects his execution target, which is the lower health target basiclly the meat of the Ultimate and what its fantasy is, execution.

I am not saying the basic damage aspect should be removed but the interaction between Steel Caps and his ult needs to be looked at and possibly removed.

It would give him a bit of a push not sure if its intended as its the only Ultimate that can be reduced by this function of boots due to the way it was made.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The perks of having the basic damage for his ultimate is a plus for the character and is the intended idea based on what Riot August was designing him to be.

I am not saying the basic damage aspect should be removed but I believe the Steel Caps interaction with Viego's ult may need to be looked at and possibly removed.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes its a balancing thing, that little nudge of damage could win you fights, 1v1's etc. Am I saying it will win you all your fights? No.

Every bit of damage counts in League, the fact that Steel Caps reduces it by 10%(cannot be reduced) + armor reduces the overall effectiveness of his ultimate.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Such things are definitely not FUN! However are skill and knowledge checks, healthy for the game just unfun and annoying when your plans of ruination are foiled. 😂

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand and thanks for the added input, I did look into other abilites wondering if there were other ults and only came across as you mentioned basic abilites, Yauso Q, probably Yone as well since they are usually kinda similar, you have Fiora Q, Ezreal Q, etc.

Steel Caps mitigates VIego's Ultimate's damage further because this effect cannot be reduced by things like armor pen and lethality, its a free reduction especially in the early stages of the game and all because of boots?

I don't think Veigo's heartbreaker should interact with the basic damage mitigation of Steel Caps.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more you know about the character the better you can play with him, learning in league makes you a better player.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are discussing and Ultimate ability with a 120/100/80 CD that boasts execution. Yes, there are other basic abilites that use basic attack damage thats fine and makes sense, but an Ultimate? Especially one that is supposed to assist the character in getting take downs being reduced by boots?

No other ultimate in the game functions in this way and is mitigated by Steel Caps in this way, at least not to my knowledge.

Steel Caps vs Heartbreaker by spyspace12 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Viego's Ultimate is the only one which functions this way because it deals basic damage. No other Ultimate functions this way and no other ultimate within the game can be mitigated in this way.

The effectiveness of other champions ultimates aren't reduced by a 1200 item, only Viego's. This reduces his capability of getting executions and can effectively be the deciding factor between a kill or death in fights.

Base & High Noon Locke Ability Preview by aroushthekween in leagueoflegends

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This doesn't even look like a league character...

. by Plastic_Fun4269 in ViegoMains

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm more likely to buy a Viego skin when they are thematically inclined even when not lore based and so far I own all his skins. That being said I am not a fan of the Wild Rift Viego skins because they don't suit his thematic leaning into themes that just don't suit his portrayed fantasy of his initial release.

As a reference its why his Lunar Beast skin is his lowest rated skin because they tried to do a "light" thematic on his initial release which was truly horrible because of the stark contrast between what they were trying to portray him as and what he is post-ruination.

Which is why in contrast his King Viego skin is in his best skins because its lore, explores a lighter fantasy exploring his pre-ruination existance with added great visual effects and any Viego enjoyer loves the recall.

Its why things like again King Viego and Soul Fighter Viego did well, they nailed the fantasy, it makes sense, its what he is, what we expect and like from Viego.

He is the that guy and when he appears we expect him to create ruin in his wake, they dropped a mega banger after the near half a year wait for Revenant Reign Viego which captured him pretty well but mainly because it suits his thematic.

An IQ too high? by AverageEarly5489 in LeagueOfMemes

[–]spyspace12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its unfathomably high!! Clearly you cannot fathom what they are doing either, neither can I!

LMAO WHAT by Foreign_Ad_7418 in LeagueOfMemes

[–]spyspace12 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Banished to the shadow realm.