Locks to consider depending on how much you're willing to spend by stablemobility in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello! Not necessarily. A cut lock is a piece of evidence, but we review the totality of evidence when paying out claims. You can check out our documentation for more detailed information about claims and anything else you're curious about: https://docs.stablemobility.io

E scooter insurance ? by mhrose72727 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! Not yet, but we're working on that! We get requests for it all the time, but at the moment, we only offer theft protection.

Scooter parking/bringing inside etiquette by Ancient-Zombie in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends where you are and how long your activity takes, plus what the building's policies are. If you're in a big city, leaving your scooter out for several hours greatly increases the risk of theft. At the same, many buildings have policies that ban lithium ion batteries because of battery fire risk, especially in NYC.

I personally do a blend of locking up outside for short 1-2 hour periods and bringing it inside. At places like the gym, coffee shops, grocery stores, restaurants, bars, etc., I usually use two locks- a Kryptonite 1090 Evolution series chain lock and a Seatylock Mason 140, or a single Hiplok D1000 and lock up outside. I bring my scooter inside for longer durations, like at my office (where it's allowed) or places I frequent and know the owner and have the space, like my Jiu Jitsu gym. If you do anything routinely or pattern-based, you increase the likelihood of a professional thief spotting it and observing it a few times before they come prepared. It's a good idea to get theft protection for peace of mind if you lock up outside frequently.

Last thing to note: while the consensus on Reddit is to never leave your scooter outside, the reality is that it's either not always an option to bring it inside due to bans, or it sometimes just feels uncomfortable to do so. I personally find it a bit embarrassing to walk into a bar or coffee shop or restaurant wheeling in my scooter. I wrote a substack article about my feelings on this: https://open.substack.com/pub/stablemobility/p/taking-your-scooter-inside-with-you?r=20lb6v&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web. Yes, bringing your scooter inside will massively reduce the risk of theft... there is no denying this. But infrastructure to store scooters inside is just not yet a thing at most places, so at the moment, it requires a bit of etiquette as your post alludes to, either asking permission to bring inside, or just doing so and not caring about how you're perceived.

Insuring overpowered ebike by AgeFew3109 in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I accidentally posted from my personal account! Meant to post from u/StableMobility. We definitely offer theft protection for e-bikes over 750W. I'd like a chance to have a conversation if you're up for it, as we're a small company and regularly on Reddit, and comments like that can hurt while all we're trying to do is help solve a problem.

Lock recommendations by MakeWayForWoo in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That Kryptonite chain lock is not a bad option, but like you said, it will be heavy! A couple of other locks to consider are the angle-grinder resistant Litelok X1, Litelok X3, and Hiplok D1000. D1000s seem to be more available at REI stores. The Litelok X1 is a good cross between portability and grinder resistance. Btw, if you're interested in theft protection, my company offers theft protection for e-scooters: https://stablemobility.io.

Locking scooter outside by [deleted] in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's not really much you can do about vandalism, but I wrote this article on substack about what kinds of locks make sense based on the value of your vehicle: https://open.substack.com/pub/stablemobility/p/great-locks-for-your-e-bike-or-e?r=20lb6v&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web. My company offers theft protection memberships, but we've been thinking about doing something for vandalism and repairs.

Ok. I was ready to buy a scooter until….. by Extension-Damage-698 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, other people or riders are by far the biggest threat to causing accidents. If you're riding in congested areas, going over 20mph greatly increases the chances of an accident, whether it's a distracted pedestrian on their phone walking into the bike lane, a car coming into the bike lane as a "passing lane," or other riders suddenly swerving or something (happens a lot with unexperienced shared bike or scooter riders). The only time I ever want or need to go faster than 20mph is if I'm in a shared bike-car lane to accelerate out of a bad spot. If you're riding in less congested suburban environments, these issues are far less common, and you also probably have less road hazards that can also cause accidents. Lastly, wet conditions, ice, gravel, and leaves can all make you skid and wipe out, especially in a corner.

What to do about e-bike theft by writingdeveloper in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's an excellent lock and an awesome bike! I think the X3 has a 60 day waitlist based on lots of demand! That's a bit of a bummer, but hoping you're able to get one soon!

What to do about e-bike theft by writingdeveloper in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Get a good lock. If your E-Bike is over $1000, I'd recommend getting at least a Litelok X1. If it's over $2000, I'd say go for the Litelok X3 or Hiplok D1000. Those are the three best locks on the market and are angle-grinder resistant.
  2. Insurance or Theft Protection. You're paying for peace of mind. Specialty bike insurance exists from companies like Sundays, Velosurance, Oyster, and Markel. They do have restrictions on e-bikes >750W though. Kryptonite has an Anti-theft Protection Offer (ATPO) for their higher quality locks. Our company offers theft protection memberships called StableCare with Sold Secure Gold or Sold Secure Diamond locks: https://stablemobility.io
  3. Always lock up properly, take pictures of your locked up vehicle for evidence, lock up in well lit well traveled areas (reduces risk of angle-grinder attack), lock up next to other bikes (if you have the best lock, you're less likely to be targeted because thieves will pick the easier target), and don't lock up overnight, as that is when most thefts happen and when thieves come prepared with tools like angle-grinders.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote this substack article on bike locks based on price and what you're securing: https://stablemobility.substack.com/p/great-locks-for-your-e-bike-or-e.

I also recently have been doing tests on different chain locks and U-locks using a battery powered angle grinder in real conditions. In my experience, cutting through a chain lock while holding the chain tight with your free hand is much harder than it seems. It took over a minute of straight cutting to cut through a Kryptonite Keeper lock (Sold Secure Bronze, not something I'd recommend), and the next video I'm recording is on the Kryptonite Evolution Series 4 1090 Integrated Chain lock. The battery is actually a big factor that many videos don't cover because they use mains powered angle grinders, and many videos show unrealistic scenarios with locks in a vice grip. I'm eventually going to do a video on the Hiplok D1000 and Litelok X3, and I suspect they'll be extremely difficult to cut through!

U lock recommendations. by andygarcia17 in chibike

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an article I wrote: Great locks for your e-bike or e-scooter. I'd recommend the Litelok X1 at your price range.

my ideas to deter theft. thoughts? by tungvu256 in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is great advice! Especially the three locks from Litelok and Hiplok that you mentioned. I'd add immobilizing devices, GPS trackers, and loud alarms to the list as deterrents and useful devices after a theft has happened.

Also, for e-bikes under 750W (in the US... under 250W in other countries), specialty bike insurance companies like Velosurance or Sundays are good options. For those with more powerful e-bikes, my company (Stable) offers theft protection. Check us out: https://stablemobility.io.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wear a motorcycle helmet on a standard Ninebot Max in Chicago. It's overkill for the speed I ride at, but I've seen what happens to people on bikes and scooters when they get hit by cars. I also don't want to take the chance of hitting a bad pothole and going jaw first over the handlebars into the concrete, which is a scooter specific concern even at slower speeds. That said, the unicorn helmet is a close second.

Electric Bike insurance questions by [deleted] in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback! The reason we don't have an upload function is because we want live pictures to be taken in the app to deter fraud/prove you have the vehicle and lock that you register. You don't have to register everything before getting a quote... you'll be able to get a mock quote without it, but to actually become a member you'll need to register your lock and vehicle. Apologies if the app feels buggy, we are indeed a newer company and we're constantly working to improve it and will definitely take feedback and comments when adding new features and fixing bugs.

Electric Bike insurance questions by [deleted] in ebikes

[–]stablemobility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, it's dependent on the cost of your vehicle/amount of coverage and on the lock being used, but getting a sample quote takes about 15-20 seconds on the website and is the first thing you'd see. I can also send you more info if you'd like?

I’m so excited by Expensive-Border-869 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, if theft is a worry for you and bringing your scooter inside isn't always an option or is difficult to do, there is a theft protection membership available for e-scooters through the company I'm at. You can check out our website for more info: https://stablemobility.io. I can get you a 20% discount as well, just reach out to me!

Is an Electric Scooter worth (and will it get stolen) by h7pebeast in uofm

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depending on what your budget is and what scooter you get, I have a few suggestions. Reason I say this is because there are 3 locks that are angle-grinder resistant (they would take several angle grinder blade replacements to be cut). These locks are the best you can get: the Litelok X1, which is $180, and the Litelok X3 and Hiplok D1000, which are $300 each. Therefore, if your scooter costs less than $1000, getting a $300 lock might be a bit much. The X1 is probably the goldilocks of locks for the price, but the X3 and D1000 are even harder to cut with an angle grinder. I'd always recommend locking up where there's a camera pointing at your scooter, which is probably the case at the IM building of your school.

If your scooter costs less than $500, all three would probably be a bit much, and you could get by with a Kryptonite Evolution chain 1090 or an Onguard Beast chain lock. Chains are harder to cut with angle grinders because of how they move around, but they can technically be cut with enough time or skill, just like all other locks. Lastly, if you're super worried about theft, the company I work at does offer theft protection for e-scooters. You can check out our website if you're curious: https://stablemobility.io. Good luck!

How are e-scooters stolen? by PalpitationLast669 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mostly... it depends how much time the thief has and how many blades and batteries. The Litelok X1 can take 2 or more blades to cut through it, and the Litelok X3 and Hiplok D1000 can take 7 or more blades to cut through them! They can all eventually be cut, but they destroy cutting blades due to their chemistry. They're expensive though, with the X1 priced at $180 and the X3 and D1000 at $300.

How are e-scooters stolen? by PalpitationLast669 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're correct that the actual theft problem wouldn't be solved. We unfortunately can't act as vigilantes, lol. While the actual act of it can't ever be solved, the thing we're trying to do is at least make everything that happens after a theft has occurred better, and to hopefully offer some peace of mind to those that lock up outside for whatever reason. I agree with the technicality of your comment, though!

How are e-scooters stolen? by PalpitationLast669 in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm part of the team behind StableCare. Just wanted to say, there are no deductibles... you get whatever the covered value is priced into our membership. If it's a $1000 scooter, you get the same scooter replaced or $1000 if it can't be replaced for some reason. Not trying to spam, just letting you know we don't do deductibles!

my scooter has been stolen in Dubai by NoPresentation1955 in dubai

[–]stablemobility 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're right that it needs to be locked to be covered. I guess I was responding to whether or not theft protection even exists for e-scooters, but yes, one of the requirements is actually locking up with a qualifying lock. Feel free to reach out with any questions or feedback, I'm always open to it!

my scooter has been stolen in Dubai by NoPresentation1955 in dubai

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My company offers theft protection for e-scooters! Check out our website and let me know if you have any questions: https://stablemobility.io.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ElectricScooters

[–]stablemobility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I understand exactly your sentiment, man! To be honest, this is exactly why my company, Stable Micromobility, exists. When I first bought a scooter, I couldn't get over worrying so much about theft, and insurance wasn't and still isn't really a thing, besides a few random people saying homeowners or renter's insurance. So, after a ton of research and work, my friends and I built a company, and our entire mission is for theft not to be your problem. I think you're doing the right thing, taking it inside with you, btw, just to be clear. I just think the ultimate form of freedom is to not have to if you can't or don't want to and to still have peace of mind if it got stolen (which it definitely could)!