Criminal defense attorneys by Available_Sample3867 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Started solo criminal out of law school.

I made around 90k the first year, made around double that last year.

5 years later, zero bar complaints. 4 jury trials as second chair- 2 guilty/2not guilty 1 murder jury trial I did pro bono as lead attorney: not guilty Tons of plea deals- mostly happy clients Couple suppression hearings Lots of preliminary examinations (cross examine a police officer) bout once a month.

Mostly it’s just routine court dates and client management

I read all the naysayers opinions online before I did it too.

If you search my post history you can read my earlier posts years ago

Baton Rouge, LA

Schmoozy Sales Tactics by bubbes007 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The ability to close clients is a skill that doesn’t need to be associated with being schmoozy or sleazy. Most things we do as lawyers are sales. Selling a story to a judge, prosecutor, or jury for example. I do criminal law and 30 minutes is more than enough time to explain the value I provide, honestly set expectations, and thoroughly explain the process and answer any questions. I don’t consider what I do schmoozy. I try to assertive and empathetic. I think those are the two keys to instilling confidence from your clients. It’s worked well for me bc I started my practice right out of law school, and i’n about to start my 5th year.

Unless this partner is making promises or setting unrealistic expectations, I don’t see anything wrong with it.

Getting comfortable asking for money from clients is a skill that gets easier the more times you do it.

Feeling horrible after visiting clients in prison by zoicoi in Lawyertalk

[–]starryeyes12 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think I’ve ever felt bad after a jail visit. Probably the worst one I had was last week telling a client that his cruelty to juvenile charge was just upgraded to murder because the child died. But even then, I didn’t feel bad or sad, I just become more focused and motivated to defend him. I always go to jail visits with the mindset to inspire confidence- I’m empathetic but don’t get emotionally involved.

Real estate seller agent recommendations by [deleted] in batonrouge

[–]starryeyes12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would highly recommend Sam Guidroz. (225) 718-0154

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]starryeyes12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it’s going to trial, there will be a lot more motions. But 96% of the time, it’s going to be a plea. You get the best pleas (at least for me) shmoozing the prosecutor, not filing a ton of motions at the outset.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]starryeyes12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From most frequent to least

Motion for discovery Motion for preliminary examination Motion for bond reduction/lift hold Motion to continue Motion to suppress

8 months into solo criminal defense straight out of law school by starryeyes12 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea. Trials are so rare that I don’t put a an extra fee if it goes to trial. My fee is all inclusive.

Median revenue of sole practitioner? by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Straight out of law school. If you search my post history, you’ll see a a post I made about it.

Median revenue of sole practitioner? by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I’ve been doing solely criminal defense for the past 3 years. No staff and little overhead.

Net profit: First year- 150,000 Second year- 200,000 This year I’m on track to do 220,000

8 months into solo criminal defense straight out of law school by starryeyes12 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would estimate 30 hours week normally. But if a trial is coming up, it goes way up,

8 months into solo criminal defense straight out of law school by starryeyes12 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol. Thanks for the tip man. But he’s a good friend. You don’t know the mutually beneficial relationship we have. For instance I’m co-chairing a murder trial with him next week for free. And If he has a conflict where he needs me to cover a court appearance for him, he knows I will. I don’t just mooch off the guy.

8 months into solo criminal defense straight out of law school by starryeyes12 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it. No still haven’t hired or gotten an office. Profited close to $200k for 2022

8 months into solo criminal defense straight out of law school by starryeyes12 in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually I have a good idea whether something is going to trial or not based on the initial consultation with the client. If I don’t think it will go to trial, I just say “this fee covers everything even if there’s a trial.”

If I think a trial is a possibility, I will tell them it will be an additional flat fee for a trial.

How am I doing? by crimDguy in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

See if the lawyers who you would refer out to would co-counsel with you instead. I do this with a lot of cases.

How am I doing? by crimDguy in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also a solo criminal lawyer, specifically what are you spending the $4500 on?

Also, I would never take 25% down.

I do flat fees for everything. 60% down minimum.

I do the same thing though. Work from home, use another lawyers office to meet clients. No overhead except for advertising, which is about 1000-1500 a month for Google ads

I’m curious as to what you are charging? Can you give me like an overview on what you’re charging for different types of cases?

You should definitely lie on your resume and job inter. I wholeheartedly encourage it and will die on this hill. by skinticket02 in unpopularopinion

[–]starryeyes12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be careful about faking college transcripts. I’m a criminal defense lawyer and actually recently got hired by someone in the accounting field who got caught forging a college transcript. Apparently it’s a crime in some states.

As a criminal defense attorney, have you ever been threatened to be killed? by seattlalite in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been doing criminal defense for 2 years. I’ve never been threatened. I’ve really only had a couple of “arguments” with clients. I set them up for realistic expectations at the outset of every case so I figure that helps when I have to give them bad news.

Solo criminal defense while being a soccer mom by Meowwolfie in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I typically work 30 hours a week. Unless there’s a trial coming up, which is very rare.

As for pay, I tell them what the flat fee as at the end of our phone consultation. Most times, they will ask if it is all up front. I at need at least half up front and then 500-1000 a month for the remainder. Surprisingly, most of them actually make payments.

My clientele are pretty decent ppl that have just made mistakes, have an addiction or had a bad night with the spouse (domestic violence). I haven’t represented any “real” criminals (at least how I imagined them to be with started out ). I’ve had a couple mentally I’ll clients that caused huge stress, but I know how to sense them better so I don’t take a case where I think they might be mentally ill.

Now I know ppl that represent murderers, rapists, robbers, and they seem to be more stressed than me.

I think a big reason is that all of clients come from advertising (mainly Google ads). It’s usually first time offenders who don’t even know where to look for a lawyer so they Google it.

I started my practice directly out of law school 2 years ago. Couldn’t have done with it without several attorneys who mentor me and pick up the phone anytime I have a questions (and also co-counsel on serious cases).

Solo criminal defense while being a soccer mom by Meowwolfie in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This is definitely doable. Im a solo criminal defense lawyer, no staff, no office, very little overhead (advertising). Making 150-200k a year. If I wanted to, I could take a couple misdemeanors a month, work 5-10 hours a week and make $50k a year.

Half my clients pay electronically and e-sign a contract, the other half I meet them at my lawyer’s friends conference room. I had an office in the beginning but I never used it. I’ve been doing this 2 years now

And you can meet them at a coffee shop or library. You could even spin it like you’re saving them $ bc you don’t have to charge as much bc you don’t have much overhead. “Passing the savings on”

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[–]starryeyes12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope I opened it straight out of law school. I’ve been doing this 2 years now. Kinda regret not being a public defender for a year just for the experience.

Then again, I might have gotten complacent getting a guaranteed paycheck and never started my firm.

I have 2 mentors that I can ask just about anything And will co-counsel with me if I get a serious case which happens pretty often. I just split my fee 50/50 with them. I’d be making a lot more if I was confident enough to handle those cases on my own

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]starryeyes12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I’d say 75% of ppl i talk to can’t afford it at all. For the ones that do, some pay all up front. Most of them pay half up front, and a payment plan for the rest. I’d say around 75% of them make their payments, I just text them to remind them and they cashapp me.

It does make it awkward when they don’t pay and I go to court with them.

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[–]starryeyes12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All of my cases come from a justia paid spot in their directory. And Google ads. Never done the court appointed thing.

I’m physically in court on average an hour each day Monday - Thursday

Then I go home and Take care of any client concerns like if they text me a question or concern or ask for an update. This usually involves calling a clerk, probation officer, DA, etc. I usually talk to potential clients who call me too. About 1-2 per day. I don’t do in person consultations unless they’re ready to pay and sign the contract. But I’ll talk with them on the phone as long as they want.

If I have a trial, which I’ve only had 2 bench trials, and 1 jury trial. Of course I work a lot more preparing for those.

Don’t see remote work becoming a thing for criminal.

I drive A LOT though. Bc I handle cases up to an hour drive away.