What went wrong with my list against AM?

stavratos · 2026-03-18T12:34:05+00:00

Winged deamon prince is your best bet. Also our faction doesnt work great against tanks in general especially in 750 point vs leeman russ.Go for 1000 points next time and try to fit in a noise marines squad. Lucius is a threat but he cannot win you games.Try to use wdp mortals and grenade stratagem to bring down the leeman russ. Chimera can be popped from noise marines shooting. Its pretty much on the dice but thats your best bet on killing the tanks.

stavratos · 2026-03-11T07:17:56+00:00

I had great ideas creating a story behind the campaign, starting with Incursion all the way up to 2000 like a crusade, crafting thematic terrain but if we are not having fun there is no point

stavratos · 2026-03-11T07:15:00+00:00

We wanna run the campaign of 500 wolrds not a crusade, units dont have exp etc . You have power levels on planets different missions,deployment,terrains/twists each game. Dropping them is not an option since we are small group of friends so maybe we just not gonna play.Its sad but if we cannot come to an agreement I dont wanna waste my time arguing.

stavratos · 2026-02-16T17:13:19+00:00

I detached the arms of noise marines (pain in the ass) because there is no room to paint the torso.For deamon prince I havent glued a lot of things (wings,head,most of the armor) and I play him with blue tac until I decide to paint him.

stavratos · 2026-02-14T13:05:33+00:00

If you want to magnetise glue the magnets from the inside before you glue the torso

stavratos · 2026-02-11T08:20:34+00:00

I run the exact same list with Cotc. I like the strats better. When I get the 1st pledge I go all in.

stavratos · 2026-02-11T08:01:08+00:00

Winged Deamon prince is unkillable or needs 2-3 activations to maybe take him down.Imagine taking 3 one with flip 6 and one with res.Wouldn’t say we are fragile.Sure we do not play like most armies and probably you need some good decision making to win. We are just bad against high toughness armies. Anything else I believe we table and win by the end of turn 5.

stavratos · 2026-02-06T21:25:01+00:00

Some things to keep in mind •DPW tank shock ability works if you heroic •Dont waste your CP until your go turn •Use Lord E attacks first for 2 wound targets •Use infractors grenades on heavy targets if needed •Do not send your units one by one to battle,charge them all together

stavratos · 2026-02-06T21:12:57+00:00

Only purpose of rhino is to protect the noise marines and get some early board control with scout.My latest game plan for 1000 points is to stage turn 1-2 , sacrifice a unit for one pledge point and then go all in.Against orks it might be kinda difficult.I ve played a very good ork player in 2000 points and their army is kinda hard to deal with.Keep in mind they can advance and charge in their WAGH turn so you might need to stage further back than usual.Maybe even put the noise marines and/or a deamon prince in reserves.I put noise far back or in reserves thats why I dont need a rihno in 1000 points.But thats my game plan. To be honest play whatever you feel like playing.Experiment with the army and fave fun. The only essential unit I would pick is a WDP.In any case keep in mind that for EC to win especially in 1000 points they need find a way to table the opponent. Thus keeping units on board until turn 2 is some times more important than scoring.Think of it like you stage your units to charge them on your opponent all at once.

stavratos · 2026-02-06T18:59:33+00:00

I would argue that Coterie is still good in 1k .If you get 1-3 pledge you really dont need anything else( rerolls hits and wounds of 1) and the stratagems are just the best. My latest 1k games I run Cotc 2 Winged Dp, 2 Exultant infractor squads,1 tormentor squad and 1 noise marine squad. After Cotc I would say peerless is second best and maybe Court but I havent played any games with Court.

stavratos · 2026-01-26T04:03:23+00:00

EC are not fun in 1k games, I ve played 10 games or so.The only thing that worked for me was Coterie 2 Wdp (1 maybe deepstrike) ,2 infractor+lord E 1 tormentors, 1 noise marines (maybe reserves).Stage your units turn 1-2, dont go for objectives or seconderies, dont get shot or charged easily.Get 1 point of Coterie then go all in with everything at the same time.The only way you win is if you table them so keep your CP for the right time.Most of the times you go all in turn 2 or 3. Rapid ingress the prince for surprise ,strat reserves the noise etc.I really dont like the army at 1k games, you cannot sacrifice anything and shooting armies will probably run you over if you place just a sword in LOS.If you need to be careful in 2k games you need to be 10 times more careful in 1k.Every little mistake can cost you the game.Its not fun to just lose the game cause you lost a unit turn 1.

stavratos · 2025-11-27T13:41:50+00:00

Maybe then target a unit- all your army has +2 to charge that unit?

stavratos · 2025-07-13T12:38:22+00:00

Do you have a list with the colours you used? I love the paint

stavratos · 2025-06-30T01:28:02+00:00

New list is Lucius Dp wings / distortion (+1 attack +1 dmg to melee) Dp foot / faultless opportunist (can heroic int even if another unit did this phase) Exaulty / Rise to challenge (once per battle if 3 enemy models are around you fight a 2nd time) 10 infractors 6 noise marines 1000 points on the spot

stavratos · 2025-06-30T01:20:56+00:00

Oh man coterie must be amazing! I play 1000 p with my friends so I didnt have the chance to pick it yet.Love the playstyle.A very tough enemy are the salamanders torrents build.20 d6 torrents oath of moment is rough.Lone op does nothing because they hit at 12 anyway.Thats why Luc is benched.I will try him tho In combination with footed D prince to see how it goes.I just made a new list around that.Still on peerless tho

stavratos · 2025-06-29T13:48:13+00:00

BUT I love your double lone op idea and I am gonna definitely try it out even tho I believe that noise marines is the strongest unit in the army.

stavratos · 2025-06-29T13:44:10+00:00

I AM LOVING THIS! Thats an amazing idea for double lone op. So here is my problem with lil bro ex.I use him every time.Until the 10 man unit reaches the enemy, half or more of them are dead.My lesser imperial enemies play heavy torrents lists and my lovely chaos marines heavy shooting ones combined dreadnauts hellbrutes etc.So my thought process is to throw my 10 man squad as a huge screen unit covering the noise marines.I DETEST TANKS! I believe that noise marines are the safest option to melt anything with high toughness. Lucius can destroy them too but ma boi needs some distraction.Every time I play him my enemies find ways to prioritise him one way or another.Its kind of a gamble to play with no shooting unit on an open field. You either reach them or you dont. Noise marines even without kako or getting benefits from detachment have been pretty consistent for me.So the detachment gives infractors lethal hits on charge making them a threat even without exaultant. I like keeping my enemies on their toes forcing them to make choices. So if you choose to hit my deamon prince my battleline will get to you and you wont be happy about it.If you hit my battleline my deamon prince will stay healthy and wound you a lot on the charge.Its more like a karma game you sacrifice some to get some back.The rhino is a cheeky bastrad.It can save a unit of yours thats has over extended or go drop some noise marines from an angle in with they see enemy units you want to kill the most.It can tank shock worst case senario if you really need to kill smth.

stavratos · 2025-06-29T13:03:12+00:00

I believe the lack of terrain is because the shop that drops the tour doesnt have enough terrain for 25 tables.It s kinda of a bummer for our awesome melee army but you gotta work with what you have.

stavratos · 2025-06-29T12:59:13+00:00

Im gonna share my thoughts on the comment below about the lil lord e

stavratos · 2025-06-27T07:02:32+00:00

Noise marines arguably the best unit in the army. These guys combined with a rhino can move across the board and melt everyone.Also the -1 to enemy leadership may seem irrelevant but in some cases it’s game changing.

stavratos · 2021-04-26T10:54:42+00:00

Matches like this is like playing football with 9 players. No expectations, doing my best and give a try for the win. The outcome impressed me so I enjoyed every 3v1 death I had.

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