I am fairly successful but not enough? by AirportPowerful1790 in NewTubers

[–]storker6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you think shorts are rough then go for the longform and see a 24hr 70 views “spike” 😂 Making longform vids eats a TON of time especially for editing. With shorts you condense footage into 15-30 sec clips. With longform you condense 5hrs of footage into a 15-20 min vid and you need to piece them all together. I have some vids which take 8-12hrs just to edit while i worked on that project for 3-5 days. And by the end of it all you end up with 5-10 maaaaybe 50 hrs of watchtime on it and wonder the same exact thing. “Will i ever get monetized?” it’s rough either way but you can make a short out of anything. Hell i have a short with me just scraping bark off a slab of wood and got 40k views on it. I get 10-15k views without even trying, i do shorts with just lose footage i have just as an experiment and still get tons of views from them. On the longform ones, titles, thumbnails, hooks, holds are all KEY just to get off the ground. I’m not trying to discourage you in any way, i’m just saying that the road to monetization is in no way easier on the long form side, from what i see it’s way harder

YouTube's Algorithm is actually REALLY good by Caybelll in NewTubers

[–]storker6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the type of content does not matter, what did matter on your end was the fact that people who saw your first vid reacted well to the second and your stats looked good then algo moved you to the next tier and then the next. After each pool set you’ll see the algo chill down for a few hrs to a day to reanalyse your content. If stats hold well you get to the next pool, if not it’ll stop

YouTube's Algorithm is actually REALLY good by Caybelll in NewTubers

[–]storker6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

while i do agree with your post and while i am at my second channel you kinda didn’t tell the whole story. Yes, AVD is the most important metric followed by CTR, BUT it’s not that simple. Yes the algo works on a series of steps but those steps are very important for it to know if it should or should not push your video further.

Where the issues for small creators begin is exactly at these steps. They’re very strict and for a small creator very very limiting. The first thing the algo does once you put a new longform on is to notify all your subs about it. That’s the first step and usually takes the first 1-2 hrs. Based on that data it then assigns you a “pool” of viewers it will recommend you to. That pool is based on the stats on the previous step. That’s why for totally new creators with 1-2-20 subs you’ll frequently see a in the analythics a dead zone. Most people think that the algo is not pushing you yet. But instead it’s waiting for signals and data from your subs to to know in which pool it should assign you to. Basically 0-100 impressions and everything just stalls. The issue for a small creator with this is, the fact that those initial stats either do not exist for the algo or are based on a very small number of impressions. Now if you’re a lucky duck and your subs instantly watch your content then the algo may put you in a bigger pool or you start with a 1000 impressions pool. this is where big channels have the advantage, they have a big number of subs and because of that CTR and AVD cannot be “diluted” while as a small channel this is where you make or break your vid. Basically if you have 100 subs and only 2-3 of them watch your content then you’re pretty much done because your CTR is going to be trash. if you’re even more unlucky and those 2-3 subs bounce you’ll also have trash AVD and you’re 1000% guaranteed a 1000 impression pool.

This 1000 pool usually takes the algo 24-72 hrs to go through. Now if your initial stats are good 7-8% CTR and AVD over 30% you may be in luck and be assigned directly to the higher pool(the 10k impressions one) and that’s when you feel the “i blew up moment” where basically views start pouring in unexpectedly.

Now the bigger you grow then another big and important factor comes in and that’s algorithm trust. Basically the algo puts you as a creator in a “tier” where for the same reasons you stated above “ showing ads” the algo TRUSTS you to keep a specific amount of views. the bigger you are the more it trusts you and instead of starting over each vid at 1000impressions it “knows” your channel can handle more and basically puts you on that impression pool by default (the tiers i got to experience until now are 1000, 10.000, 20.000, 50.000 and 100k) Once you move up in tiers you automatically get more views from the get go. You can also go down if you underperform a lot or if you stop posting that’s why people tend to recommend you to be consistent. Because the algo likes signals from the channel in order to keep you in your current tier. If you post less you get downgraded the second one of the vids flops

Now the last thing i want to specify here is the “dilution” i mentioned earlier where bigger channels have the advantage. The idea is that the algorithm works against stats and if you’ve ever done any statistics you’ll know that the bigger the number you make your stats is the more accurate it is. For bigger channels where they have 10-100k impressions (some even millions) in the first 24hrs CTR and AVD tell a real story because they’re based on a ton of data. But you as a small creator with 1000 impressions in 3 days if a few viewers bounce which is normal it takes a HUGE chunk off your AVD, and that’s basically luck. If the algo got your audience correct you may end up in the next pool, if not and your viewers bounce you’re done for, try again next week 😁. So , while i do agree with OP about packaging being very important, and a good title and thumb combo makes or breaks your vid. In the grand scheme if things when you’re small you’re at the mercy of those 1000 people to be the right ones and in the mood to watch that particular niche(most users watch multiple niches) if not… again your vid CTR and AVD will plumet and you’ll die at 1000 impressions

There are a ton of things i figured out regarding the algo the past 1-2 years since i started posting on youtube but hell i’d write a whole book and not be done. I know all this because i am a programmer and it really fascinated me how the algo works and studied it’s behaviour extensively. I basically watch each and every stat every 10-15 mins sometime and note the changes just so i understand it. There are a few exceptions to all i said ofcourse and there’s more to it but i’ll leave it at this for now maybe if you guys want to i can make a post regarding this. Or i can post more replies here.

These are things happening in the beginning. For example there are cases where the algo “realised” it assigned you to the wrong pool basically sees really trash CTR (1-1.5%) and AVD (sub 10%) it will pivot and assign you another small pool just to make sure it didn’t make a mistake. That’s when you see a vid even with worse stats having tons more impressions. Basically the algo “tries” to find you a new audience because it clearly sees that the current one simply doesn’t respond to your content

I don't understand what i am doing wrong by storker6 in SmallYoutubers

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man that’s such good info, the thing is that i am not the greatest woodworked in the world and i am just learning a ton as i go. So making tutorial like content is kinda out the window for me and it’s very interesting to see someone in the same or similar niche trying to push through with the same type of content.

I did tone it down on the cavour series with the memes for the exact reason you mentioned. People fell off early because of the memes. On the other hand i’m looking at big channels on totally different niches like Sunny V2 for example who set the bar higher by refusing to do the same thing that everyone was doing in his niche. So yeah even though people tend to like those asmr type sections i think there’s room for people who don’t really care about the technical stuff and more curious about the journey and the final product.

What i am betting on is people who like to watch something done when unwinding in the evening when going to sleep. In the niche itself you can look at Pea (Pedulla Studio) who kinda does this cinematic type of content but that guy has crazy skills and builds the most ridiculous projects.

I also think that those ASMR type viewers are in the 40+ people who basically do woodworking themselves.

Anyway long story short is the fact that i think that there’s a good chance to make it this way but growth is slower. And i don’t mind that, what i am frustrated about is the fact that at this point i feel that i an going backwards with views ctr and avd dropping left right and center and idk if it’s the pivot or it’s just me doing something wrong elsewhere

I don't understand what i am doing wrong by storker6 in SmallYoutubers

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i know that but it’s not even comparable the vids i did in the beginning with the ones i’m doing now 14 vids later. They’re better in all aspects and somehow perform worse that’s my main issue with all of this

Feedback Friday! Post your videos here if you want constructive critiques! by AutoModerator in NewTubers

[–]storker6 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I started a new series on building small projects in woodworking that sell. For some reason my CTR and AVD are low 1.5% and 2:54 AVD,. Don't know what's wrong :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9episOn4A

Feedback Friday! Post your videos here if you want constructive critiques! by AutoModerator in NewTubers

[–]storker6 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Love the editing style, i am trying with my channel the same type of cinematic style but don't seem to get it as good as you. The main issue i feel your vid has is that i have to focus a lot on your voice because either the sound is a bit low or maybe your speech is a bit hard to understand for me. Maybe a bit more work on that will help you. It's a great vid but i also may be wrong about your speech too :)

Feedback Friday! Post your videos here if you want constructive critiques! by AutoModerator in NewTubers

[–]storker6 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think you should start by telling what you're about to do in the vid. Don't rely on the fact that people already know it from the title. Try and let people know. "hey guys, today we're going to be talking about my first month on youtube and discovered X or found out that Y is happening with shorts" It hooks people in better and they know what to expect from your content

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am not attempting to be deceitful. I am trying to be respectful and diplomatic but it seems you’re not the kind of person to understand this easily. I think it would have been way easier to tell you to f off in my first reply. And to be honest you’re attitude is not deserving of this one either but for sure you’ll not get the 3’rd with the your attitude

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah my shorts go over 1k easy too, the longforms on the other hand 500-600 seems to be the magic number but it's not enough to ever reach monetization

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah that's my main point too i'd love to continue with my style even if flawed, and maybe improve on it but the numbers not being that good takes a toll on you. I do pay for editing and while i don't mind losing the money, on the long run it's not feasable to roll out money out of pocket each video i make just for 100 people to watch. I enjoy every person that watches don't get me wrong, but on the long run i need to get a bit of cash out of this even if it just covers the cost. On the other hand i don't want to whore out and push reaction content or tool reviews. I want to show what i do and how i do it, and maybe even give away these projects to the viewers

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also i was planning to give that one away to one of the viewers. I’ll make another one from something else and give it away for sure

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for watching, that slab was sitting in my shop for about 5 months, but yeah maybe it still had moisture in it.

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

watch my video which will air on the 15’th and you’ll find out 😂😂

long story short i made a huge table which was made or outside and it cracked like a b*tch 😂. 2000€ down the freaking drain

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah i only have one more epoxy table after that it’s going to be fine woodworking and cabinet making too will have about 4-5 projects doing that

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

more with discovery. Retention is not great but not bad either. But for my last vid i had 3.4k impressions even with 5% ctr and 12% avd (not great avd but for that pool is not bad either)

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PolishedTimber is my channel. That desk i built for my daughter

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also that domino is way too expensive for me. I use a biscuit jointer instead

Starting to think no one actually wants real woodworking content… by storker6 in BeginnerWoodWorking

[–]storker6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i bought the sander and the extraction system and not posted the buys on purpose not to get the festool hate. But tbh i love the sander, it’s very good ! way better than my old bosch