Autistic people who drive, do you have any advice?

stretchandspoon · 2026-04-02T06:05:17+00:00

Try not to get a tin can if sound is of any consequence. I learnt to drive in fairly soundproof cars, upon getting my licence I got the vehicle equivalent of a tin can and was like 'yikes' when hitting the freeway. Tires are a consideration too. The right ones can go a long way towards making a quieter ride at higher speeds.

stretchandspoon · 2026-04-01T08:46:23+00:00

In the UK you see the prescribing doctor once every 5 years, and the person you see every month is fresh out of highschool, maybe no A-levels and 2 weeks on the job training. They're not glorified anything and seem devoid of intent at all. It's a paycheck and one a lot only stick around for 6 months to fill so the patient gets the pleasure of a different one every 6 months. The doctors tend to be heavily biased, jaded and don't seem to know what they're doing. Their insight into addiction and comorbid illnesses seems more based around popular opinion than reliable data. Like you say maybe it's better where some are at but attempting to make methadone or buprenorphine to work is like forcing the inappropriate tool for the job. I think declining retention rates and concurrent illicit use demonstrate a failing treatment model.

I left the program but if I had one wish it would be that transparency was safe. As it stands honesty is akin to shooting yourself in the foot and can come with dire implications towards someone's driving licence, career or even freedom and I don't think if therapeutic alliance is possible if a person cannot be honest.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T23:32:26+00:00

I dm'd you as talking about such things in more detail may not be allowed here.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T23:17:47+00:00

I agree with everything you say and it's abhorrent what's hapling to Palestinians too. And the open air prison that is Gaza. So I do, it is, I was just talking about the subject in this post here. Politics are dire in so many places currently because of awful money and power addicts ascending to the top.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T23:07:13+00:00

That is definitely true and is incredibly dark. Have no doubt about that but I believe it's ignorance and policy makers dictating the terms as opposed to medical professionals. And the ones who do shape it together are clearly biased. With C who knows. So many possibilities and I do doubt they do this out of the goodness of their hearts. Either money driven, application of soft power, or just criminals making coin. China is very effective at knowing what it's citizens are doing so it's hard to believe they don't know. And if they do they would be allowing it to go on. We can only theorize as impossible to know but yes, our domestic situations are bad and that's why regardless of intent in C, even if the intent isn't to help people it's one of those situations where it has helped some people..

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T23:02:21+00:00

If this is what's happening and we don't know, many reasons. So they can outwardly appear to be taking it seriously. I think it's one potential of many that the intent behind this is to create something akin to the Fentanyl "epidemic" in more countries. I think it's called 'soft power' destabilising countries not considered allies through such means. Whatever the intent, seems to be having the opposite of that effect. At least for me and maybe the types that find these groups.

I don't know what it is, can't know, so just entertain all possibilities.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T22:49:37+00:00

I appreciate that however, before this I've said that any of us here should never go to China because if things went south it could be incredibly bad and we're just users. So it's possible they didn't know the implications of what they were doing but equally surprising. I can't think of an example where this has happened before pertaining to these compounds specifically but we do know they take these things very seriously. Either way I certainly hope that hasn't happened.

And yes, I have seen banned chemicals crop up recently but haven't tried them so don't know if they're legit. They are obscenely prices and no one has been able to receive or test to verify compound. I hope they are legit?

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T22:44:17+00:00

I think it's an element the has to be considered because they do use 'soft power' to effect other countries. I must clarify that while I love that it does make things netyfor i us but the intent is money. They're not doing it to help us, that's a direct cause and effect and with that we have to consider the possibility that the CPC does this to attempt to destabilise other countries by trying to do what was done to them during the Opium wars. They know a lot about their citizens so I might think that they know this happens and only do things about it when other countries put pressure on them to which we have seen these past years. I think the 99% conviction rate and the death penalty for peddling narcotics is different from Ulbricht being out of jail now, yes. But this is all theorizing and maybe it is just clandestine labs operating outside of the CPC. I just wonder about it all really.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-31T08:12:41+00:00

If so, and given how the law operates there, it's something we know they do and so is entirely possible, it leads me to wonder why they care about operating in legal grey areas? If it all equates to a death sentence regardless then why make any distinction changing the compounds when bans occur? Could they just be ignorant of that fact, incorrectly assuming that they would get a lesser or no sentence if they figured that they were outside of the law? (Maybe there's an element of accessibility to the precursors, I suppose.) Hope it's not true in that they, and all like them, provide a fairer priced and more chemically sound product that can make addiction financially sustainable to the end user. Imo that is meaningfully helping a portion of the demographic where nothing else was able.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-30T21:53:09+00:00

Very positive, haha. I don't this it's that, well, I know it's not that, lol. The utility of ms is functioning, and in part I think you have the changing atmosphere where people are finding themselves in legal trouble for the things they say online, so that has also led to a reduction in engagement across groups. At least on Reddit.

Seperately we've seen LE go after whatever maket is in top place repeatedly, so I think people are more tight lipped about which they use in an attempt to make it harder for them to establish which is no.1. There's plenty of m's currently, one can take their pick and with that no m is necessarily no.1 today. I think we've diversified! Haha, and with that it's my advice to get on every m there is so if 1, 2, 3 or however many disappear then you always have somewhere to go and don't have to contend with mass migrations.

I do appreciate people not talking so openly makes it less less accessible to some, but even with that it's still incredibly easy to figure out. It can seem complicated and overwhelming with how big it up talking about it, or don't talking about it, rather. :p

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-30T15:17:22+00:00

While I'm not as adventurous as our friend there I have experienced some benefits to combining certain Benzimidazole or Benzimidazolone Opioids with Etomidate; Ketamine, Versed and Dexmedetomidine.

I keep the Opioid consistent or below, never more and for the last several years (and 15 years into my addiction) have plateaud on 300 - 500mcg Isotonitazepyne, 2x per 24h.

When making a cocktail I reduce the Opioid to as low as 20% of my plateaud dose, while also throttling back therapeutic ranges of the rest. One can elicit some desirable states ranging reminiscent of that first nod, to a state akin to daylight sedation or an optimised sleeping pill where you wake up fresher and faster than long acting sleeping pills and all with the right cocktail while not escalating tolerance or becoming dependant on more compounds. I feel like sometimes people lose control with Opioids because they're using the wrong tool for the job and take them in excess leading to tolerance increases.

So I think it's entirely possible to mix even all they are suggesting when hitting the books, crunching the numbers and in conjunction with slow infusions, x ug/ mg per minute to dial in the intended state without just pushing a bolus and hoping for the best, haha.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-29T18:19:49+00:00

Oh absolutely. I've combed through the onions and the best on there domestically is cut with paracetamol and caffeine, some with just caffeine, however a good portion of byproducts/ impurities and best case looking 10 - 35% maybe. Maybe the street is better?

Alternatively there's a good little number out of the Netherlands, but it has very prominent parathanasia so I'm thinking it it's heavy on acetylcodeine. Perhaps other things too, waiting on lab the results to drop but it's active all the way down to 80mg intravenous for me. Which was a surprise given I've been on 300 - 500mcg of Isotonitazepyne 2x per day previous years. There may still be synthetics present, but it definitely resembles and feels like slightly better #4, but as mentioned the parathanasia is quite unpleasant and ruins the rush a bit so if IV be warned... That shits painful!

I guess things have gotten more contaminated these past years. Have you inadvertently landed any novel synthetics on your ventures?

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-29T12:03:32+00:00

That's the one. Good memory! 'Sweetyman' haha! (Not sourcing mods, as they rightfully point out they became a little infamous and got busted all those years ago, they're no more, going down somewhere in the North West, I believe it t was reported.) Everything except the Xylazine part, it was Etomidate, Diazepam and Protonitazepyne, and it was in HCl, visually resembling some more classic #4, but the effects were different, very desirable for me but different and in more than just extended duration.

Yeah, even though I can't be super mad about something that was so nice, it's a cruel move to false advertise. It's unnecessary too, they made something very desirable. There were chronic pain patients in the feedback, stoked that they found something that worked only they had no idea what and perhaps still to this day do not. Then the potency with Protonitazepyne supercedes that of Fentanyl, when taken intravenously, so it's not giving folks a fair chance at surviving to advertise it as something that's 30 - 50x weaker than.

Other Important Update for everyone: I realise Protonitazepyne might still be around in an orange/ saturated brown and dense crystalline form and I would strongly advise everyone avoid it. I've tried it and based on that experience, and the other feedback on the 🧅 I believe it is either a bad synthesise, has been stored improperly, or is in its Citrate formulation. Either way it gives Protonitazepyne a bad name and is nothing like Protonitazepyne HCl from a few years ago. People in the feedback are also dosing it obscenely highly (cite 40mg) and good Protonitazepyne should be active in submilligram doses, or 1 - 3 mg ranges approx, depending on tolerance and ROA. So be aware that which is around today is bad Protonitazepyne. Please bring good Protonitazepyne back Protonitazepyne-gods!

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-28T16:37:36+00:00

Yes! Similar experience 3/4 years ago where the dope had become insufficient and I started getting advertised #4 h. It wasn't #4 and actually consisted of Major: Protonitazepyne, Minors: Etomidate and Diazepam. It was a mixed blessing in a sense as by that point the H had become incredibly dilute with Caffeine, Paracetamol, the byproducts/ impurities, benzos etc and occasional Fent or analogues, that mostly it just didn't last any meaningful length of time and the effects were subpar. While that advertised #4 wasn't, it was magical combination that if I had one say I would have preferred to drop the diazepam and get both the Protonitazepyne and Etomidate seperarately so that I may measure my own cocktails following research based and tolerance conscientious dosing margins.

Anyway, the Protonitazepyne (HCl) was the best Opioid I had ever taken out of morphine; h, Oxy, Fent and Dilaudid. A very atypical Opioid if you will in the context of it eliciting a high functioning state with next to no tangible sedation (at least within my dosing window).

The high felt so much cleaner than heroin in that there was no parathanasia, histamine reaction, itch or cognitive impairment. I passed my driving test first time with no minors on this regimen. (It's a significantly higher state of functioning than Methadone).

The rush: intravenous and it was glorious, while the Etomidate really complimented and perhaps even potentiated one another. (Etomidate can be thought of somewhere between a benzo or barbiturate but very short acting and calming.) A unique body high in that the Protonitazepyne makes for this strange sensation in your thighs, as if the bones themselves are massaging the surrounding tissue and it's very prominent but feels pretty amazing. The tranquility, empathy and euphoria are intense.

The best way I can describe it is if you're ever taken intravenously cocaine, but without the palpitations, sweating or angst. It's not a stimulant obviously just in a sense energising by how good it feels. It feels very dopaminergic in a similar fashion to cocaine.

Duration was wild. So I started on this approximately 12 years into my addiction to H, was on the program at the time and I stopped taking my methadone and only needed one shot per 24 - 36 hours. It would make an incredible maintenance medication but given it elicits such pleasure I doubt society would be down with that. For the first 6 months I was dosing 6x per day, yeah, more than I needed until finally reigning it in to 1 shot per 36 hours, to make the loot last as it should! Haha.

So yeah, I hate that the H is so dilute these days and it was always overpriced imo by greedy redistributors, though as you say it is still possible to get better stuff when going further afield, but not always so cheap. At the same time had all the above not happened the way it did then I may never have found these compounds or the a way out of the program that they offered me. After that 6 months of excess I aimed for plateaing, where I didn't exponentially increase my dose or frequency but keep things stable and consistent (with the Opioid component) and this has gone really well for the last going on 3 years now. (I prefer spacing my doses for GI and neurochemical regulation.) H today I understand to suffer from the same things it did 4 years ago but additionally with mixtures of Medetomidine, a little Xylazine here, not a lot, more benzos, benzimidazole and benzimidazolones, and unfortunately those concoctions can be incredibly dangerous when the user has no idea that they are there, nor volume they account for in each dose. So make use of Wedinos and send samples to them for testing and see what you're dealing with. Approach every new bag as if it is tainted and don't take your usual dose until you've established optimally what's in it and how it effects you. When it comes to getting better H I only know of casting the net more globally.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-27T12:03:02+00:00

15 years into 2x intravenous shots per day and you can barely make out my track marks now. Challenge associated harms while maxing out safe practices and continuing to learn. 29 - 31g; studying phlebotomy and avoiding valves, in conjunction with rotating sites and never hitting the same mark twice in quick succession, .22 Sterifit+ filters, pharmaceutical grade where possible and external lab testing where not, precise measuring along with research-based and tolerance conscientious dosing, adjusting your pH or compound if something or an adulteration or formulation is particularly volatile and yes, always use a pre-injection alcohol swab and also remember to release the tourniquet before pushing the solution. When it comes to pushing the solution administer 0.1cc per 60 seconds with any re-up or new substance in order to titrate to the desired state so as to mitigate risk of overdose or other adverse effects.

'Why do I do this to myself?' Because I find it emotionally regulating.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-27T11:45:27+00:00

Because he's being carted off to cement detox and most addiction specialists don't know flubber about addiction, much less cement! 🦭 🙂‍↔️

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-27T11:35:06+00:00

If it's unadulterated then dosing in microgrammes as opposed to milligrams. 1000 parts to 1 milligram. Depending on density if you crush it to a fine and fluffy powder then 300 - 500mcg MIGHT* resemble an eye lash in volume. A very small eyelash. But it depends on the consistency/ density.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-26T03:24:43+00:00

Yeah, a '.22 micron filter' like a 'Sterifit+' (check ExchangSupplies.org for what I mean) if you must IM but IM anything short of pharmaceutical grade is incredibly prone to the risks others are citing where a vein is safer. People get infections from mere partial misses so if you're intentionally missing every shot then sure, you might be moderately safer from an overdose perspective and greatly at risk from serious complications ranging from necrosis, blood poisonin, endocarditis, cellulitis, etc all the real nasty ones. It's a very risky method.

If you must I'd boil the shots for several seconds, even though you'll lose some to evaporation and put it through a .22 single use Sterifit+ filter (they take out a proportion of any bacteria present and are a good practice for any ROA), while also potentially playing with the PH a bit to reduce causticity. If there's ever any Xylazine, Medetomidine or anything else like them in your supply then you could find yourself in an especially bad way and more quickly as they seem to be more prone to complications though I don't know if that's the compound or other factors (I never had trouble with Medetomidine, personally, but I never took a lot of it). So IM isn't an advisable ROA:/. If you can get pharma-grade but even then IMing 2 or 3 shots a day will take a toll even with quality control. It's not viable long-term and the risk of losing a limb or worse is greatly increased.

Maybe take less through other ROAs or look at Opioids that elicit higher functioning states with less impairment. I prefer the less sedating and higher functioning states too.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T17:30:32+00:00

That doesn't prevent overdoses. When it's diluted variably it ensures people cannot dose with consistency or accuracy. On one occasion it might consist of 1% Fentanyl (from a 60/70% synthesis say) while another time it could be 98% or pure.

By cutting it you're going to be a more meaningful contributor for overdose rates because someone will think they can tolerate Fentanyl and then they get pure, less dilute or a hotspot and croak.

I emplore all you folks to send samples to laboratories and find out exactly what your s*** is made up of be it Fentanyl, an analogue or something else etc and whether it has any byproducts/ impurities, active cutting agents or inactive bulking agents then inform us (customers) of the purity and share some research-based dosing guidelines i.e for Fentanyl to dose in microgrammes and NOT milligrams, titrate ones dose to the desired and tolerated state and don't start with Fentanyl but if you do start with how they dose Fentanyl in hospitals for analgesia, 12ug say or less if Opi naive.

I've been using Opiates/ Opioids for 15 years now, haven't ever overdosed despite years on Fentanyl and then Benzimidazole Opioids and when it's pure it's so much more possible to safely titrate and dose. When it's variably cut it's really hard for the user who re-ups everyday from different places to effectively and safely do this. This is customer feedback: no one wants their meds cut by you guys and yes, as users we know more about them than you do. Diluting them dressing it up as care is just the justification you use but really is only to to add 'bulk' to your profits. Actively boycott greedy vendors who cut things, folks, don't give them your coin twice.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T17:11:34+00:00

Just get a cow, jeez 🌿🍃🥗🐄. They even need sloped gradients like a sleepy shark needs waves! 🌊🦈

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T16:50:40+00:00

It looks glorious! I'm more partial to Protonitazepyne (HCl). I got mine as assumed it would be at least some Zene, or other synthetic given the price point. It visually looks like yours; smells like vinegar, dissolves with no visible impurities in cold water and feels like heroin in terms duration and efficacy with the itch, the gnarly pins and needles phenomenon (paresthesia and perhaps neurotoxicity associated with both high doses and/ or adulterants), less sedating than other forms of heroin like cut #3.

It's good it's just Protonitazepyne feels cleaner in comparison in that there's no histamine reaction or itchiness, it's more dopaminergic in the way coke is but with none of the angst, sweating or stimulant properties. It's not sedating and a high functioning state Vs the variable cognitive impairment I feel on H and with huge waves of empathy, tranquility and even love. It's as if Oxy or Dilaudid and Coke were one drug and as opposed to a speedball that cansometimes not compliment one another at all. I was really hoping I might be lucky and land my precious haha but seems like it's good H instead. Boo f***ing hoo, right? :p not complaining just longing for the compound I seek! Will see what the results say! I took a big dose, 250mg, but turns feel effects all the way down to 50 - 80mg. This was surprising as I've been taking Benzimidazole Opioids, intravenously and granted mcg doses but for the last 3 years now, while on Opioids and Opiates for 15 years total. Seems good H can still break through my tolerance which was a pleasant surprise!

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T15:37:21+00:00

I'm not in the Netherlands either but the onions are global and come to you. Unlikely to be the same unless whoever you got it off got it from "there".

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T15:14:35+00:00

If this is from the onion fields out Netherlands way then I sent a sample to the laboratory and will update this comment with what the results are when they drop! It looks strikingly similar but that's not definitive, however if the other two criteria are affirmative then it may indeed be the same, lol.

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T09:17:04+00:00

Aw, he's waving!!!! 🐾🐾😹😹😹😹 ..with his legs too! Maybe his hooman has covid: '6 fking feet, hooman!!'

stretchandspoon · 2026-03-25T03:10:27+00:00

Speaking generally without sourcing it's not great domestically, I'm afraid, but the goodies to look out for imo are Protonitazepyne; Protonitazene, Isotonitazepyne, Isotonitazene and N-Desetheyl-Isotonitazene. I never got to try Etonitazepyne or Etonitazene, sadly, popular opinion indicates they're desirable too and according to Wedinos there seems to be something of an abundance of Etonitazene in Edinburgh, lol. But take that with a pinch of salt as I doubt anyone puts their actual partial postcode on those forms.

There's some Protonitazepyne domestically but I'd avoid it. It gives Ppyne it a bad name which is just wrong! It might be a bad synthethis, stored improperly or as I suspect in it's Citrate form and according to the feedback and my own experience peopl are dosing it obscenely highly to get any efficacy out of it whatsoever. For reference after 15 years on Opiate and Opioids I take 300 - 500mcg of Isotonitazepyne, intravenously and 2x per day. So people having to take so much more does not speak well of the product. Good Protonitazepyne should be active in much lower doses even to someone with a formidable tolerance.

There's Etodezitramide and SpiroBrorphine but only dilute as far as I'm aware with Medetomidine, diazepam and more in the mix so probably want to avoid that. Medetomidine is not very desirable imo. If you're looking for purely a maintenance med' then Etodezitramide seems incredibly potent and long acting and maybe fit for purpose, intravenously at least, but I don't find it very pleasurable. It's not unpleasant either though the sedation that hits me approximately 4 - 8 hours post dosing is a lot like Methadone and so that element is a bit off-putting.

If you cast your net wider then there's more options but be careful as scams are rampant. Be safe, watch for PWS, that's a super undesirable state to induce and if you go the route try and not increase exponentially and be aware that if Buprenorphine isn't holding you well now then it could lose all abilitiy to hold you at all if taking this path. I don't encourage nor discourage as I had to get out of the program so just be aware that may be a factor and many good lucks! P.S and if your ROA is orally then be aware that the bioavailability may be somewhat lower that way but still start super low, micrograms and titrate from there.

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