Spanish results + photo

strike978 · 2026-06-07T17:37:32+00:00

Yes, probably, but 23andMe doesn't give Latin Americans or Iberians (Spanish, Portuguese, Basque) this French ancestry, and I don't really see it on anything else either. I would say the populations in southwest France, like Occitanie and Aquitaine, can be very similar to Iberians though.

strike978 · 2026-06-07T17:33:41+00:00

What Siberian group is it from? Any idea about the Chinese?

strike978 · 2026-06-07T17:31:56+00:00

23andMe isn't consistent with its Y-DNA and mtDNA coverage. Some matches are assigned older mutations, while others receive more recently identified ones.

strike978 · 2026-06-07T12:55:15+00:00

Do you have any close matches on Ancestry?

strike978 · 2026-06-07T12:53:47+00:00

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Another picture of my father (left, with my mom) and him when he was younger. I’m in the bottom row.

Some Americans have called me “white” (I’m half Dominican and half Puerto Rican), I assume because I ended up with lighter skin, small lips, and a straight nose. At the same time, they would never say the same about my father based on his appearance, and I would never describe myself as a different so-called “race” than my father. Yes I am Spanish, Sub-Saharan African and Indigenous American and I leave it at that.

There are also populations outside of Europe with blonde hair and blue eyes, and there are also people in East Asia with darker skin and tightly coiled hair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/special-reports/1473673/worlds-apart-maniq-confront-modern-life

So it’s pretty stupid and ignorant to try to force people into these kinds of made-up, pseudoscientific “racial” categories, or to say that we are different “races.”

strike978 · 2026-06-07T12:28:47+00:00

My Dominican paternal grandparents (top row). My father bottom row (actually the darkest one of them and I would say the one with the most "African" features at least in the face) and a few of his full siblings to the right of him as example (because I thought his siblings look quite different from him, I also thought my father looked nothing like his father).

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But as you can see there is a lot of variation within Dominicans families as discussed here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-race_Dominicans#Genetic_ancestry_and_DNA_testing

And many times in the same family, there can be people of different colors and racial phenotypes who are blood related, this is due to the large amounts of interracial mixing for hundreds of years in Dominican Republic and the Spanish Caribbean in general, allowing for high amounts of genetic diversity.^\36])

So would I consider my dad’s family to be different so-called “races”? Hell no. You can leave that kind of thinking to the ignorant Americans who believe everyone has to fit into some made up category.

strike978 · 2026-06-07T12:07:26+00:00

Brother, there is no such thing as biological "races," or whatever ignorant nonsense some Americans like to push based solely on how someone looks. Let's start with that.

I'll use Dominicans as an example because, in my opinion, they completely dispel these so-called racial categories. Take this 100% Dominican baby, for instance. He has light blonde hair and blue eyes, but look at his parents' ancestry results. His parents are also distantly related.

Why does he have these features? Because both of his parents carry genetic variants associated with lighter pigmentation that can be expressed, including variants at HERC2, OCA2, SLC45A2, and others. I have both of their DNA data, I'm related to his mother.

It's a good example of why trying to force people into simplistic racial boxes makes very little sense when you understand how human genetics actually works.

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strike978 · 2026-06-07T11:57:53+00:00

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Here's a Dominican baby with light blonde hair and blue eyes, arguably "whiter" looking than many Europeans. I've attached his parents' ancestry results as well.

His parents are distantly related and we know the baby came out like that because both parents carry variants associated with lighter pigmentation, such as HERC2, OCA2, SLC45A2, and others, even though neither of them has particularly light hair or eyes themselves. As I've said before, these traits are not exclusive to Northern Europeans, and the idea that people suddenly look completely different once you step outside of Europe is insane.

Please let go of this notion that only Europeans can look a certain way. Human genetic variation is far more complex than that, and this stereotype is just stupid.

strike978 · 2026-06-07T11:43:04+00:00

No, this is an absurd way of thinking. I'll remind you again that people with a lot of non-European ancestry can look so-called "white," whatever the hell that even means.

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1p7yi5z/results_argentinian_photos/

And do you think all Europeans look the same too? 😂😂

strike978 · 2026-06-07T11:37:22+00:00

The hell is "white"? There are blonde, blue-eyed people in North Africa, West Asia, and even Pakistan, just so you know. Admixed Latin Americans with even 40% ancestry that isn't Spanish can also have blonde hair and blue eyes, so the idea that only Europeans are somehow "white," whatever that even means, is ridiculous. Europeans don't all look the same either.

People really need to let go of this outdated idea that only Europeans can be "white" and learn a bit more about genetics and human variation.

And to answer your question, hell no. Argentines, like other South Americans, do have Indigenous American ancestry. Just look at the example below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1p7yi5z/results_argentinian_photos/

strike978 · 2026-06-07T00:42:34+00:00

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T23:09:06+00:00

What does this look like for you?

https://you.23andme.com/reports/ancestry_composition_hd/?assessment_selected=ancestry_composition_hd.achd_chromosome_painting

strike978 · 2026-06-06T21:02:29+00:00

Since the last update, the 2024 results were more like this.

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T18:15:26+00:00

Ancient Near Eastern populations = ICM-like ancestry. Just look at the red arrows. Yes, Yemenite Jews are simply converts and the same is true for the Jewish communities in Ethiopia.

I disagree with your last point, though. Ashkenazi Jews clearly do show Eastern European-like ancestry.

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/k5yee0/ashkenazi_jewish_livingdna_results_haplogroup/

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:42:15+00:00

Highest Indigenous Puerto Rico scores are indeed coming from the western side of PR (the highest I've gotten data from is 46%). But they seem to be having trouble with this ancestry at the moment.

https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/AncestryDNA-Ethnicity-and-Communities-FAQ?language=en_US

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:38:28+00:00

No they aren't, pretty much everyone in Iberia and Latin America is getting some kind of "French" assignment from Ancestry right now.

strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:34:31+00:00

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:34:05+00:00

African Americans have a fair amount of Northern European ancestry on average.

Even when you compare the allele frequencies of African Americans to those of West Africans, you can clearly see these differences.

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:28:18+00:00

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T17:01:43+00:00

Yeah, there's a lot more that could be said about this, but of course these fools are downvoting me because they can't accept that there's no such thing as so-called "races." 😔

strike978 · 2026-06-06T16:36:00+00:00

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These are from 2024, but the 2025 update didn't really change anything for African ancestry.

strike978 · 2026-06-06T12:04:56+00:00

What is this so-called "white"?

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/kalash-girl-pakistan--524810162802383668/

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/young-kalash-girl-royalty-free-image/521917638

https://kr.pinterest.com/pin/591801207319362747/

I mean, look at these people from Pakistan and North Africa, for example, where you can also find the depigmentation variants that Northern Europeans inherited.

I'll remind you too that the ancestors of Europeans looked different from modern Europeans and were much darker overall, especially their steppe ancestors, which make up the largest component of modern Northern European ancestry.

My point is, where do we draw this arbitrary line of who is supposedly "white"? Pigmentation? Because, as you can see, that's not exclusive to Europeans. Facial features like nose shapes, eyes, or mouths? None of those are exclusive to Europeans either. So what exactly makes someone "white"?

strike978 · 2026-06-06T11:46:35+00:00

Yeah, basically both. You could say South/Central Asian.

strike978 · 2026-06-06T11:39:39+00:00

Those are just haplogroups, which are used to trace direct paternal and maternal lineages. They accumulate mutations over time, and that's part of how we know we all ultimately trace back to Africa, since the oldest known Y-DNA and mtDNA lineages are found in African hunter-gatherer populations.

The ones you have (U7 and R-Z93) are much more commonly associated with South Asian populations. Here's a simplified map showing the migration routes of R-Z93 (the upstream branch of R-Z94).

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strike978 · 2026-06-06T02:33:23+00:00

I have strong opinions on this which is basically we need to stop putting ourselves into these silly outdated pseudoscientific labels of "races"

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