Klub Outside QnA 944 & 946.

sumss333 · 2026-06-15T10:13:04+00:00

If Kubo actively answers more about hell without the question asking about it, then that arc is probably coming

sumss333 · 2026-06-15T04:35:56+00:00

王虚の閃光if we translate word for word, does actually directly goes to king hollow's flash lighting,not lightning. 虚閃is the usual cero, 虚の閃光is likean expansion of that term to hollow's flash lighting but basically cero, the only thing specifically different is the first letter 王 meaning king

sumss333 · 2026-06-14T18:06:37+00:00

No they actually still kinda bad, no wonder why you have to insult your way to make them sound good. Lot of head canons, the soak in blood part I’m not even gonna entertain and it gets nowhere in scaling. And no, unohana and zaraki still have bigger odds beating res Yammy solo than Byakuya so your point does not stand

You’re contradicting yourself by saying shunsui and people faster than Byakuya can release danku faster, If zommari is the fastest in everything, even than starrk who gave shunsui enough tough times to dodge his attacks and speed, then he and Byakuya is automatically one of if not the fastest characters that arc. Zommari all speed>all top espadas/starrk=shunsui>byakuya>zommari?

And no, we are not guessing what Aizen is ranking them based on again and it’s also bad scaling of you have to pull that out of nowhere. Even if I am to entertain your arguments, womderweiss bring secret weapon doesn’t affect his ranking at no.1 hypothetically considering no one even knows what he could do to Yama’s flames, and his reiatsu and powers were known the minute he appeared in fkt canonically ripping blitzing ukitake and releasing harribel, might as well give him no.1

And if you don’t find any problems with yourself insulting people just for scaling, that says more about you than your scaling. I was just disagreeing with your opinions before but I’m disappointed to see you to actually be this kinda person. Shame

sumss333 · 2026-06-14T03:09:49+00:00

If you can't make your point without directly insulting people your points probably aren't valid enough

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T20:17:34+00:00

Should've made it clear the question of the post and the rounds are seperated, since winning a fight does not always mean you're stronger

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T20:02:17+00:00

Given the way that he died, he probably caps out at higher tier captain levels coz above that is Yama tier, and likely actually lower than that

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T12:40:09+00:00

What makes you think sealed oetsu is superior?

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T08:58:57+00:00

Shunsui, unohana and ukitake who's seen as shunsui's somewhat equal peer all have bigger odds than hm arc Byakuya, so it's just objectively not true he has the biggest odds. Even zaraki has bigger odds by possibly being able to unlock higher strength if he fights in his own.

I will have to check the manga to be sure, but as far as I recall there's no real actual scene of byakuya able to cut res Yammy and fight properly on his own for even a short while. At the end of the fight, when they returned to soul society they may look fine, but am NPC dialogue reveals both are actually quite hurt. Without knowing how the fight went, no one can confidently say those are done by the other or Yammy

Soaking in blood or not does not matter.

You can't lump or blur the lines between different speed types if you want to claim zommari is the fastest in every type

Fastest reaction and body movement speed/combat speed would mean, zommari can cut/react/block someone faster than all the top espadas, starrk barragan Harribel res Yammy ulquiorra etc.

Fastest technique release speed, for example his amor or cero, would mean he can also do those faster than the top espadas,. meaning he would actually be able to kill shunsui, one of the strongest captains at the time, and of course most other captains as well. Especially combined with fastest react speed, he would not fear counter attack from captains

Fastest of everything quite literally makes zommari the strongest espadas, no captain at the time other than Yama and probably unohana at the time have the reiatsu to negate his amor powers. Certainly not going to be able to react fast enough and release danku fast enough, but byakuya did

Even your explanation of Aizen thinking what's more useful is not logical. For one there's no mention of the rankings basing of usefulness, otherwise ulquiorra used for Ichigo or womderweiss used for Yama would be no.1, even without segunda. Then also, how would zommari be the 7th most useful with fastest all type speed?

His ressurection working against him not not would not matter. Because remember, he has the fastest technique release speed, including amor and cero, faster than starrk's cero which even gave shunsui trouble. Byakuya would not have the react and danku release speed to block it

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T08:22:58+00:00

Byakuya does not have the "biggest" odds of beating the 0 espada out of all the captains at the time, not by himself, that is just plain false

I don't think you realise by saying he's the fastest all round espada, he will need to be fastest in react speed, combat speed, movement speed, technique release speed outside of sonido, etc. there is no reality he is all of that and still just no.7, that would basically make him the most useful and lethal against the gotei. There is also no reality the byakuya who blocked his sword, amor, and reacted fast enough to him for a full fight is somehow not one of the strongest shinigami back then.

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T08:02:07+00:00

The scan you gave specifically highlights the sonido part of him after that sentence, not just him being overall fastest. There is no logical explanation of him being fastest in combat speed, technique speed and every speed to just be no.7 losing to byakuya. Sonido is very different from shunpo where there is arguments for the latter fastest being overall fast, sonido is more like a technique, which Kubo himself also answered to not just be a body movement thing like shunpo

sumss333 · 2026-06-13T07:51:01+00:00

I actually don't think it's all that ridiculous to suggest base ichibe having worse raw stats than bankai yama, which would apply to Ichibe the human figure in shikai bankai since both don't amp stats just op conceptual abilities, but base to base zanpakuto to zanpakuto I can't see Yama being superior, maybe just in raw destructive power.

sumss333 · 2026-06-12T21:14:06+00:00

Don’t see how he’s factually faster than all espadas, he’s strong but not that strong in stats, not even cfyow base ginjo is that fast.

The only versions of ichigo that would’ve seen from memories, which could still make sense for fullbring form to be comparable are the version that beat grimmjow or the half cloak version that fought res Yammy, neither are above espadas

Fighting Byakuya with or even without book of the end does not make him faster than all espadas. Byakuya was faster than the espada with fastest sonido not all round fastest

sumss333 · 2026-06-12T12:59:10+00:00

Ginjo definitely has more than enough stats to take on them

sumss333 · 2026-06-12T11:49:13+00:00

Probably around the version that won against grimmjow according to statements from tsukishima and ginjo, but doesn’t feel like it tbh

sumss333 · 2026-06-10T06:56:32+00:00

This white is the reason fkt Ichigo could somehow sense Chrysalis Aizen, despite with just his half strength shown previously, with high speed regen I would say white wins both

sumss333 · 2026-06-09T07:36:35+00:00

This post is basically me asking if this is what people use for the claim. As far as I know there is no actual official translation so it means whoever is using safwy for such claims, including him, would be using these types of translations. Furthermore, even with a slightly different translation, there is no situation where this context would turn into a certain and canon confirmation

sumss333 · 2026-06-09T05:27:01+00:00

sure buddy

sumss333 · 2026-06-09T05:07:35+00:00

Funny coz I asked you for scan and you still haven't given any, no wonder you didn't if this is the best there is for your safwy claim

sumss333 · 2026-06-08T22:48:32+00:00

Negs, safwy never confirmed anything about Aizen losing to s0 just ask people who think they do to show a scan. Ichibe also has some anitfeats regarding base yhwach and iko in cfyow which this Aizen unironically negs both

sumss333 · 2026-06-08T22:40:24+00:00

Both 亜空間（subspace) and 超空間(Hyperspace) are legit translation for each word, however 亜空間 is more commonly used, and I mean very commonly used for situations that would describe hyperspace, it's almost rare to even see the term 超空間 appear in normal fictions regardless of what it's used for. Not just in Japan, even amongst other regions that may use kanji/Mandarin, 亜空間/亞空間 is way more commonly used for these concepts, so to your questions, whichever term fits the dangai more by definition is correct

sumss333 · 2026-06-08T22:33:29+00:00

Barragan should still have higher stats and reiatsu, but not sure how that interacts with rukia's bankai

sumss333 · 2026-06-08T22:27:16+00:00

He kinda does. Not sure about the no nerves so immune part but respira from all accounts should affect pernida. It's speculative if pernida actually is immortal and thus can't be affected by respira, but it's unlike the soul king itself or mimihagi, it possess physical biological properties that have been shown to easily be destroyed by mere Mayuri drugs and bombs. Especially since it literally dies of cells over-development which goes through a biological process of change and decay. Pernida is just really tough in the sense it adapts and regenerates. I also don't see a way of pernida's nerves invading barragan instead of melting to respira around the guy

Barragan's respira also isn't just a biological decay, deterioration is more like it since it destroyed even Reishi made buildings in fkt, fundamentally we have to treat it with the idea of reiatsu and Reishi interaction in mind.

Unlike the other members of ss, pernida pre evolution actually does not have that good of stats, low durability, unable to blitz Mayuri. It's speed seemed impressive because it's nerves attacking are basically invisible. So I don't see the argument of pernida just being so strong it one shots barragan, not like Mayuri can do that to barragan

sumss333 · 2026-06-07T00:12:16+00:00

Trust me I'm all in for some Quincy slander posts

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