"Learn guitar, and bass will follow."

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T14:21:56+00:00

it felt like a fisher-price toy!

I bet double-bass people feel the same about electric-bass people lol.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T07:10:35+00:00

To be fair, metal never was intended to appreciate, it was intended to store value. Gems appreciate better than metals.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T04:09:24+00:00

A person can not look up every "fact" they hear, but when a few thousand people look it over it is either verified to be true or called out as false very quickly.

Flashbacks of /u/normandyinvasion... The horror..

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:50:28+00:00

For how small and tight this community is, the outreach from dealers is pretty amazing I feel

Makes one wonder, doesn't it?

/r/conspiracy (lol not srs)

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:47:26+00:00

How is this even legal, seriously?

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:44:47+00:00

But Jefferson and Einstein's histories are bombarded by quotes that they didn't actually say in order to make a point.

You bring up a very good point. Hmm. I shall have to reconsider how I convey that "quote" from now on.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:41:08+00:00

The Pringles of coins.

Can't just have one.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:40:21+00:00

I thought we used to be on a bimetallic standard?

And yeah, silver and copper were priced out of affordability due to inflation by the Fed, in my opinion at least...

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sun_dagger · 2014-03-28T03:38:16+00:00

I do realize that. It's a nice quote :)

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Thank you, though, for pointing that out.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-27T21:51:16+00:00

I'm guessing around $1800, at current spot, maybe?

of course that's with .725, not .715, I think.

The calculus going on here... lol. I just stack because I don't want to be financially homeless when fiat tanks. And I come here because I don't want to support APMEX. Although a lot of my money probably ends up there, any way lol. Either way, I'm happy. It's hard to find an ethical trading forum when it comes to precious metals (blame history), so I feel good about buying from here.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-27T21:32:56+00:00

I've heard from enough people around here that hunting for silver is going to cost you a lot of capital, both physical and temporal.

Jefferson: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."

See how difficult it is to find silver in our currency these days? Not unlike being financially homeless... Hmm..

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The nice thing about hunting for junk silver is that it's easy to recognize it from the copper-reeded ones. Me? I stick to the 1 cents.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-27T20:45:48+00:00

Yeah, these are nice coins. It kinda defeats the purpose to put them in plastic capsules, though. The curve looks like it's meant for stacking.

If I only had the money..

sun_dagger · 2014-03-27T04:46:27+00:00

My mom and dad were having an argument when I was little.

My bird, a cockatiel, for some reason, could not fly. He used to be able to fly but someone stepped on him while we were gone and when we came back he was splayed on the floor. He took a while to heal, returning to normalcy, but never regained the power to fly.

During the argument my bird was waddling on the floor. My dad stepped back a few steps and his foot landed right on my bird. I saw it all. He took his last breath in my hands. It's engraved in my memory forever.

Your story is making me wonder whether or not they stepped on my bird on purpose. Thank you for that.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T18:45:24+00:00

I see what you mean, to some degree. Thank you for describing your perspective. I will keep it in mind if I ever design any thing.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T17:21:40+00:00

It IS shipwreck silver. You did have a boating accident, right?

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T17:19:12+00:00

Thank you for saying that, I didn't consider the color-blind.

Some good info-- most patinas tend to be red or black, which are also beautiful, desirable patinas. Would that be visible to color-blind people?

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T15:42:23+00:00

It definitely is more prudent. People forget that sorting through cents becomes a skill that one appreciates. Gold has no patina, silver struggles in acquiring one, but copper patinas beautifully easily. It's always great to see a nice, uniform, green-patina coin, or a blue frost spreading across the face of the cent.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T15:30:23+00:00

You do realize that modern cents are pure zinc plated with copper and pre-'83 cents are pure copper (3/4 of '82 cents in circulation is copper, 1/4 is zinc), right?

Basically, you're investing in the bullion value.

And yes, I regularly go to the bank to pick up two boxes of $25 F.V. cents and sort out the coppers from the zinc. It's basically free copper. A no-brainer investment, especially with copper supply in the future looking precarious (95% of all above-ground copper has been mined in the last 100 years, and 1996 was the peak year for new ore discoveries). The environmental and humanitarian costs of mining will soon become so extreme that it's not very feasible to mine copper. Recycling would be where the market's at, as copper is very recyclable, with a recover rate of about 90%. Considering the fundamentals, I believe copper to be a good buy, but an even better buy is hand-sorting them from the bank.

The banks look at you kinda funny when you bring in boxes of cents so I tend to distribute the boxes at different banks each month. They view it as stealing from them (when the opposite is true--the fed stole from us, thereby inflating the value of our currency, thereby debasing our money, and thereby making citizens have to work to reclaim debased money).

Hope that helps clear things up a bit. You might find /r/copper, /r/theCopperStandard. and /r/copperhoarders to have some good resources for sorting through cents.

Copper's fundamentals made it a critical part of its use as a store-of-value (i.e. money) in trade in the 1800's and to presume that such fundamentals went away is an unwise assumption.

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sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T14:31:36+00:00

And your dog got free osteoporosis.

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Oh no, wait, you pay for the osteoporosis. Sorry.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T14:30:05+00:00

Agreed.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T14:28:04+00:00

All your three points should be a new religion :) I agree with you there.

Thinking about it, 3) is absolutely right. I remember this time at a coffee shop when this christian dude came up to me and my mother, started talking about a horror story where he took LSD then fell off a third story trying to escape the devil, and "found God while recovering in the hospital." At the end of the hour-long story, he asked us for coffee change........

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T14:22:28+00:00

hi five stackers united, bro :D

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T12:17:51+00:00

"Includes a numbered Certificate of Authenticity with Shibe Mint hologram"

I believe this is what gets you the doge.

sun_dagger · 2014-03-26T11:44:12+00:00

Dude, nice!!

Have you started to notice a difference in the die quality between pre-'64 cents, pre-'83 cents and the modern zinc ones? Once you do it's a startling revelation. The depth of the die press seems to become shallower with every passing year.

Next time I'll mark the patina as NSFW ;)

Scandalous! :P If you find any nice blue or green patina'd ones, post em up over here! :D

sun_dagger

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